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G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:31 am
by Tzupy
Link to article at Guru3D: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nv ... guide.html
I posted it here, because I believe that it's going to be important for quiet gaming.
With G-Sync gamers should be able to get a similar experience as a ~250W card (with V-sync on) from a ~150W card (with G-sync on),
making the cooling significantly easier. The downside is that you will have to buy a G-Sync enabled monitor, which will be available in 2014.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:59 am
by CA_Steve
Anand has an article up, too. It will be interesting to see how this progresses. The buy in is steep (a new monitor with the G-sync board and modification).

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:35 am
by Pappnaas
Anand:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7582/nvidia-gsync-review

Bottom line: If your hardware can't deliver >30 fps, you have to drill down settings, but if it can, the experience is great. No cheaping out on gpu power, though.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:01 pm
by mkk
I might be a bit spoiled by reasonably high framerates, but even with this technology I just can't play many types of games at say 40 FPS. Even when it runs more smoothly with the same monitor refresh rate as the graphics, 40 still just feels horrible to me. I'm sure it will be great for those who go even higher though, like when having a 120Hz monitor but ending up with a practical framerate in between 60 and 120. There this tech will shine I'm sure.

I hope that down the road some open display standard will appear that solves the same basic problem, seeing as Nvidia refuse to go that way. This is something that would have to be solved eventually.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:26 pm
by loimlo
You still have to have GPU muscles to play demanding games, but the experience/frames will be better/smoother judging by reviews.

But I'm skeptical about its success in the near future :
1. Proprietary for nVIDIA GPUs, and no Intel/AMD involvement. It'll certainly slow down the adoption pace.
2. Monitor usually lasts a lot longer than CPU, GPU lifespan. I don't see lots of people upgrading their monitors just for G-Sync.
3. 24' 1080p TN monitor would cost me USD400?? Come on, I need an IPS derivative at that price.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:38 am
by Tzupy
The Freesync competition from AMD will be implemented in Samsung monitors soon:
http://www.techpowerup.com/207362/amd-a ... event.html

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:09 pm
by Tzupy
The new king of gaming monitors, review at tftcentral:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:27 pm
by CA_Steve
Well, royal pricing, in any case :D

I wonder how this G-sync vs Freesync thing will turn out...

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:27 am
by Tzupy

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:00 am
by CA_Steve
The smart money is on FreeSync as it's in the Displayport 1.2a spec and the scaler companies are starting to include it in their chips. I wonder how long it'll take Nvidia to cave and support the 1.2a spec with their cards? I wouldn't consider buying a new gaming monitor until this resolves.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:41 am
by Tzupy
G-Sync versus FreeSync article at THG:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd ... ,4246.html

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:52 pm
by QUIET!
It seems to me that g-sync might have a slight technical edge but the cost of adding the hardware and being non-standard makes me think it will go down like Betamax.

I think the technology makes the most sense in notebooks where the combination of GPU and monitor never changes.

I would like to try it.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:02 pm
by CA_Steve
It's been a bit since I've read up on it, so I might get this wrong...the primary downside of it on laptops is that it overrides the IGP/discrete graphics switching. So, you are always using up battery power for the discrete gpu.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:34 pm
by Abula
CA_Steve wrote:It's been a bit since I've read up on it, so I might get this wrong...the primary downside of it on laptops is that it overrides the IGP/discrete graphics switching. So, you are always using up battery power for the discrete gpu.
Manufacturers like MSI have opted for a manual switch (button) to enable the discrete GPU, not sure if this is because of gsync, but would make sense.

I'm really hopping manufacturers introduce Gsync in 4k in the 40'' VA panels that a lot of companies are using, like Seiki, Philips, Crossover, etc.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:16 pm
by QUIET!
That sounds about right but I would expect that software like games and anything using 3D graphics should be able to toggle the setting on and off.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:18 am
by Placid
This wasn't a problem back when we had CRTs. It took a decade to finally bring rudimentary G-sync and Freesync into the table at a significant cost premium, but there's still a long way to go. I'm still waiting for the day when LCDs finally overcome their fundamental limitations.

Re: G-Sync article

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:49 pm
by Quinnbeast
Yeah, that Asus ROG Gsync model is damn near the same price in GBP as it is US dollars. £600 for a TN screen? Nothankyouverymuch.

It's a shame that monitor development isn't where the big bucks are being made; the R&D just isn't there. I still have use of my 10-year-old Iiyama IPS screen as a secondary to a Dell from 2-3 years ago, and while the Dell is superior, is not night-and-day. When you look at how far mobile screen tech has come in the same time frame...

*sadface*