HTPC / Light to Medium Games
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
The final build looks pretty expensive.
(the Asus H97 E instead of the PLUS is ok right?)
Final build:
Silverstone SST-GD04B USB 3.0 Grandia Desktop - black
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/silversto ... b-3-0.html
€95,25 + 20%Vat
Seasonic G - Series G - 360 360W ATX23
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/seasonic/ ... -360w.html
€58,83 + 20%Vat
Asus H97M - E H97 RG SM
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90mb ... l-h97.html
€79,62
Phobya 4Pin Molex auf2x PWM &1x 3Pin30 cm
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/phobya/81 ... -4pin.html
€6,58 + 20%Vat
PENTIUM DUAL CORE G3258 3,20 GH
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intel/bx8 ... 20ghz.html
€56,00 + 20%Vat
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev.B SCBSK - 2100
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/scythe/sc ... 2-rev.html
€34,38 + 20%Vat
ASUS STRIX - GTX750Ti - OC - 2 GD5
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90yv ... strix.html
€154,89 + 20%Vat
Corsair 4GB - D3 4 GB 1600 - 999 XMS K2 COR
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/corsair/c ... -xms3.html
€48,18 + 20%Vat
TV - Tuner Technisat Sky Star 2 eXpress HD DVB - S2 PCIe
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/technisat ... ss-hd.html
€42,59 + 20%Vat
250 GB Samsung 840 Evo
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/samsung/m ... taiii.html
€130,90 + 20%Vat
DVW ASUS DRW - 24F1ST SATA Black Silent ohne Software intern bulk
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90dd ... -bulk.html
€17,94 + 20%Vat
FLIRC
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BB0E ... EKEXULHMZR
€24,51 inkl Vat
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller mit umschaltbarem D-Pad, chromsilber (Limited Edition)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007R9S ... KAKR8XB7XF
€38,90 inkl Vat
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003VD5 ... KAKR8XB7XF
€26,89 inkl Vat
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90 inkl Vat
TOTAL: €921,05
(the Asus H97 E instead of the PLUS is ok right?)
Final build:
Silverstone SST-GD04B USB 3.0 Grandia Desktop - black
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/silversto ... b-3-0.html
€95,25 + 20%Vat
Seasonic G - Series G - 360 360W ATX23
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/seasonic/ ... -360w.html
€58,83 + 20%Vat
Asus H97M - E H97 RG SM
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90mb ... l-h97.html
€79,62
Phobya 4Pin Molex auf2x PWM &1x 3Pin30 cm
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/phobya/81 ... -4pin.html
€6,58 + 20%Vat
PENTIUM DUAL CORE G3258 3,20 GH
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intel/bx8 ... 20ghz.html
€56,00 + 20%Vat
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev.B SCBSK - 2100
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/scythe/sc ... 2-rev.html
€34,38 + 20%Vat
ASUS STRIX - GTX750Ti - OC - 2 GD5
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90yv ... strix.html
€154,89 + 20%Vat
Corsair 4GB - D3 4 GB 1600 - 999 XMS K2 COR
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/corsair/c ... -xms3.html
€48,18 + 20%Vat
TV - Tuner Technisat Sky Star 2 eXpress HD DVB - S2 PCIe
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/technisat ... ss-hd.html
€42,59 + 20%Vat
250 GB Samsung 840 Evo
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/samsung/m ... taiii.html
€130,90 + 20%Vat
DVW ASUS DRW - 24F1ST SATA Black Silent ohne Software intern bulk
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90dd ... -bulk.html
€17,94 + 20%Vat
FLIRC
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BB0E ... EKEXULHMZR
€24,51 inkl Vat
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller mit umschaltbarem D-Pad, chromsilber (Limited Edition)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007R9S ... KAKR8XB7XF
€38,90 inkl Vat
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003VD5 ... KAKR8XB7XF
€26,89 inkl Vat
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90 inkl Vat
TOTAL: €921,05
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
You could save 20 Euro by going with the Crucial MX100. Similar performance to the 840 Evo. Downside is Samsung Magician toolset is nice. Crucial comes with an Acronix license.
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
Seems like very interesting build, hope you share some nake pics (not like a friend that i dont speak anymore... jk bro).
I think two things you should crosscheck,
1) The grandia seems very close to the height of a PCI slot, has a little more but so does the STRIX has some pipes going up, i think it will fit, but i don't own either component to say for sure, so just crosscheck you will be able to close the case, or that the bar wont interfere.
2) I would probably increase the memory toward 8gb, to me its the sweet spot atm, i often pass 4gb now a days with multiple crome web open and a game, going to 8 will help you avoid using the ssd for virtual memory and thus wearing it faster when ever you need more than 4gb of memory. Imo 8gb is worth investment, in the future you can add another 4 if you are tight on the budget, but imo its worthy investment.
3) Both the Plus and E seem to have good user reviews, i think you will be fine with either. Both come with the same FanXpert2+
I think two things you should crosscheck,
1) The grandia seems very close to the height of a PCI slot, has a little more but so does the STRIX has some pipes going up, i think it will fit, but i don't own either component to say for sure, so just crosscheck you will be able to close the case, or that the bar wont interfere.
2) I would probably increase the memory toward 8gb, to me its the sweet spot atm, i often pass 4gb now a days with multiple crome web open and a game, going to 8 will help you avoid using the ssd for virtual memory and thus wearing it faster when ever you need more than 4gb of memory. Imo 8gb is worth investment, in the future you can add another 4 if you are tight on the budget, but imo its worthy investment.
3) Both the Plus and E seem to have good user reviews, i think you will be fine with either. Both come with the same FanXpert2+
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
I'm thinking to also buy this and put it into my basement to store data:
--NAS--
Mobo
MB Biostar NM70I - 1037U ( NM70, mITX, DDR 3, Intel HD )
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/biostar/n ... -gvsi.html
€62,58+ 20%Vat
Corsair 4GB - D3 4 GB 1600 - 999 XMS K2 COR
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€40,50 + 20%Vat
NZXT SOURCE 210 ELITE Midi - Tower - schwarz
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/nzxt/s210 ... tower.html
€48,30 + 20%Vat
Netzteil Be Quiet! 400W System Power 7 80 + Bronze
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/be_quiet/ ... ystem.html
€41,52 + 20%Vat
USB Stick 8 GB Intenso Micro Line
Intenso 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s (6513113)
EUR 4,83
Intenso 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s (6513113)
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intenso/6 ... 5-3tb.html
€87,90 + 20%Vat
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3000GB interne Festplatte
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B009AYWYOC/ref= ... B009AYWYOC
EUR 89,05 + 20%Vat
NAS Total Cost: approx 430€
OS: FreeNAS on the usb stick.
--NAS--
Mobo
MB Biostar NM70I - 1037U ( NM70, mITX, DDR 3, Intel HD )
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/biostar/n ... -gvsi.html
€62,58+ 20%Vat
Corsair 4GB - D3 4 GB 1600 - 999 XMS K2 COR
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€40,50 + 20%Vat
NZXT SOURCE 210 ELITE Midi - Tower - schwarz
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/nzxt/s210 ... tower.html
€48,30 + 20%Vat
Netzteil Be Quiet! 400W System Power 7 80 + Bronze
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/be_quiet/ ... ystem.html
€41,52 + 20%Vat
USB Stick 8 GB Intenso Micro Line
Intenso 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s (6513113)
EUR 4,83
Intenso 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s (6513113)
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intenso/6 ... 5-3tb.html
€87,90 + 20%Vat
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3000GB interne Festplatte
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B009AYWYOC/ref= ... B009AYWYOC
EUR 89,05 + 20%Vat
NAS Total Cost: approx 430€
OS: FreeNAS on the usb stick.
Last edited by valeriojack on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:01 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
@Abula
You are probably right with Ram. It is also quite cheap to add 4 more gb. Should apply same idea also to nas maybe.
About the Strix: reading spec of Case and the card itself should fit. Hope to not get any surprise.
@Steve
What does the software give to me?
You are probably right with Ram. It is also quite cheap to add 4 more gb. Should apply same idea also to nas maybe.
About the Strix: reading spec of Case and the card itself should fit. Hope to not get any surprise.
@Steve
What does the software give to me?
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https://www.samsung.com/global/business ... per12.html
Data Migration, some optimization tools, secure erase utility, encryption tool, overprovisioning tool, ..
Data Migration, some optimization tools, secure erase utility, encryption tool, overprovisioning tool, ..
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
For the NAS i think 4gb is fine, unless you are having it do encoding or transcoding, then it would depend on the software if it would benefit from more memory. Personally i still have my server on 4gb, still doing fine, but considering uping toward 16gb, but not yet.valeriojack wrote:@AbulaShould apply same idea also to nas maybe.
If you can post some pics of the build, certainly seems very interesting, at least to me. But also many might be considering the STRIX, so having user that are oriented toward quiet building is always good.valeriojack wrote:@AbulaAbout the Strix: reading spec of Case and the card itself should fit. Hope to not get any surprise.
Good luck with the builds,
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
valeriojack wrote:Mobo
MB Biostar NM70I - 1037U ( NM70, mITX, DDR 3, Intel HD )
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/biostar/n ... -gvsi.html
€62,58+ 20%Vat
Ok, it will go into the basement, but why pick such a noisy fan?
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/gigabyte/ ... -nm70.html
valeriojack wrote:Netzteil Be Quiet! 400W System Power 7 80 + Bronze
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/be_quiet/ ... ystem.html
€41,52 + 20%Vat
A cheap 400W Bronze unit on a maybe about 25W 24/7 system? Which is the meaning, the reasoning behind such a combination?
valeriojack wrote:Intenso 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s (6513113)
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intenso/6 ... 5-3tb.html
€87,90 + 20%Vat
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3000GB interne Festplatte
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B009AYWYOC/ref= ... B009AYWYOC
EUR 89,05 + 20%Vat
Why two 7200rpm drive on a NAS? Why two different models of identical size and spin? And why them on a mobile platform?
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
@Abula
NAS will keep 4 GB.
Pictures will be made and posted for the community.
@quest_for_silence
I will use one drive to store data and one as a copy to prevent dataloss.
I pick 2 big HDD instead of 4 Smaller ones to have an upgrade option for the future.
I pick 2 different HDD to avoid dataloss due to faulty lots.
I picked that two 7200 HDD because they looked as the cheapest i can find (was thinking about a WD Green, but what does it give me more?)
What do you mean with "a mobile platform" ?
The biostar mobo has 4 SATA the Gigabyte 3.
What is the cheapest PSU (of a decent brand) able to run the system with up to 8 drives(with SATA pci card) or another random pci card?
consider mylemon.at and amazon.at/.de as the shops.
If you are going to suggest a pico psu please add links to what i have to buy as i never had one in my hands and don´t what is needed to make it work.
NAS will keep 4 GB.
Pictures will be made and posted for the community.
@quest_for_silence
I will use one drive to store data and one as a copy to prevent dataloss.
I pick 2 big HDD instead of 4 Smaller ones to have an upgrade option for the future.
I pick 2 different HDD to avoid dataloss due to faulty lots.
I picked that two 7200 HDD because they looked as the cheapest i can find (was thinking about a WD Green, but what does it give me more?)
What do you mean with "a mobile platform" ?
The biostar mobo has 4 SATA the Gigabyte 3.
What is the cheapest PSU (of a decent brand) able to run the system with up to 8 drives(with SATA pci card) or another random pci card?
consider mylemon.at and amazon.at/.de as the shops.
If you are going to suggest a pico psu please add links to what i have to buy as i never had one in my hands and don´t what is needed to make it work.
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A 2nd HDD to prevent data loss? That's a fail, get an external HDD and do backups. RAID or a copy to another HDD is of no real use in order to prevent data loss in case of HW failure. The only thing that prevents data loss is a backup.
Any kind of RAID just ensures availability, but if something goes wrong with the PSU all HDDs could end up toasted. Not very likely, but possible.
And honestly, i think you would probably be better off with a 2-bay QNAP or Synology, should come in cheaper and is hassle free. If you pick the right model, the prebuild NAS will also use less power than your proposed build, going with a 2.5" model could even be more silent.
Just my 2 cent.
Any kind of RAID just ensures availability, but if something goes wrong with the PSU all HDDs could end up toasted. Not very likely, but possible.
And honestly, i think you would probably be better off with a 2-bay QNAP or Synology, should come in cheaper and is hassle free. If you pick the right model, the prebuild NAS will also use less power than your proposed build, going with a 2.5" model could even be more silent.
Just my 2 cent.
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I agree with pappnaas, an external drive would be ideal for backup atm that you are palnning a 1hdd nas.
I also agree that a premade from qnap, synology or tecus could end up as a better alternative.
Now the problem is he is planning on future 8 drive solution, synology offer one pretty good one, but its expensive, so idk, probable building would be better, althous personally i woulda have loved going into a bigger synology nas, but i already had most of my hardware, so decide against, but i still have seconf thoughts into synology.
I also agree that a premade from qnap, synology or tecus could end up as a better alternative.
Now the problem is he is planning on future 8 drive solution, synology offer one pretty good one, but its expensive, so idk, probable building would be better, althous personally i woulda have loved going into a bigger synology nas, but i already had most of my hardware, so decide against, but i still have seconf thoughts into synology.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
valeriojack wrote:NAS will keep 4 GB.
valeriojack wrote:I will use one drive to store data and one as a copy to prevent dataloss.
I don't know how you're configuring file system and drives, so I will assume the NM70 is fine.
However, broadly speaking if you're willing to use an onboard (fake) Raid controller, the NM70 isn't suited, while the Intel one of any HX7 chipset should be preferred for reliability purposes, IMHO.
Still broadly speaking, whether the NAS will use fakeRAID and be used for streaming also, the lower DPC latency of the H97 chipset should be preferred, IMHO.
valeriojack wrote:I pick 2 different HDD to avoid dataloss due to faulty lots.
IIRC you can't know which drive the Intenso kit actually is.
valeriojack wrote:was thinking about a WD Green, but what does it give me more?
Less heat (so more reliability), less noise (here we're on SPCR), about the same NAS performance (they are not local drives, you know).
valeriojack wrote:What do you mean with "a mobile platform" ?
The 1037/NM70 combo is a mobile Ivy Bridge CPU paired with an ULV netbook chipset: they are meant for extremely low power draw, and therefore need efficiency at those low power levels.
valeriojack wrote:The biostar mobo has 4 SATA the Gigabyte 3.
The Gigabyte has also an eSATA port, you may use it either with an eSATA drive or with a regular SATA using a small converter.
The MSI passive board with 847 looks like decent and IIRC it's already used for FreeNAS setups.
valeriojack wrote:What is the cheapest PSU (of a decent brand) able to run the system with up to 8 drives(with SATA pci card) or another random pci card?
consider mylemon.at and amazon.at/.de as the shops.
On that shop both the Bequiet L8-300W and the Bequiet System 7-450W are noticeably better than the old System 7-400W, efficiency wise and noise wise.
I didn't checked the number of relevant connectors, but both those units should be electrically fine up to 8 drives and a mobile platform.
valeriojack wrote:If you are going to suggest a pico psu please add links to what i have to buy as i never had one in my hands and don´t what is needed to make it work.
Either if you're going to use 8 drives, or more than two 7200rpm drives, I won't suggest a pico.
But for your proposed setup, and up to 4-5 high density 5400rpm drives, a good pico will be a viable choice with reference to running costs.
On the other hand, a pico is never cheap to buy, I guess not less than 70 euros, and up to 110 euros on amazon.de.
So you have to think about whether an higher efficiency may pay the price difference: reasoning about an acquisition cost of around 60 euros more for a good pico, you would go to shave off about 5W/hour for an about 25W load, so if I'm not wrong about 44KW/year, and that should be about the most favourable case scenario for the pico.
If I'm not wrong, on lower power draw (12W? I mean 5400rpm drives), or higher one (50W? I mean, more drives), expected savings should be lower (typically around 3W/hr, so about 26-27KW/year).
Do your math.
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While on the HTPC my priority were Silence and Good performance i want to state what the priorities are for my Nas.
NAS PRIORITIES
1. My Data has to be "safe" (Survives 1x HDD Meltdown)
2. Cheap Build (as cheap as possible)
3. Decent Power consumption
4. Option to expand in the future if needed
As you can see Noise is not a priority. I can't put a Boeing engine in the basement but moderate noise levels are not a problem.
As it stays on 24/7 it would be nice to have some service on it like http proxy to bypass internet restrictions at work, control a torrent client, personal radio server and stuff like that. Would i sacrifice extra functions to get it cheaper? Yes i would because i could use the HTPC with wake on Lan to access some service on demand.
Right now i'm on a 2TB Home Media Network Hard Drive by Iomega and i fear for Dataloss.
I also tought to put another standalone network drive and let leave the backup job to a spare nettop i have (poor performing, Atom based).
After making all this clear,
What would you recommend me? I'm Open to any Option.
p.s.: If this Posts are going in an off-topic direction i can open another post just for the NAS, just tell me.
NAS PRIORITIES
1. My Data has to be "safe" (Survives 1x HDD Meltdown)
2. Cheap Build (as cheap as possible)
3. Decent Power consumption
4. Option to expand in the future if needed
As you can see Noise is not a priority. I can't put a Boeing engine in the basement but moderate noise levels are not a problem.
As it stays on 24/7 it would be nice to have some service on it like http proxy to bypass internet restrictions at work, control a torrent client, personal radio server and stuff like that. Would i sacrifice extra functions to get it cheaper? Yes i would because i could use the HTPC with wake on Lan to access some service on demand.
Right now i'm on a 2TB Home Media Network Hard Drive by Iomega and i fear for Dataloss.
I also tought to put another standalone network drive and let leave the backup job to a spare nettop i have (poor performing, Atom based).
After making all this clear,
What would you recommend me? I'm Open to any Option.
p.s.: If this Posts are going in an off-topic direction i can open another post just for the NAS, just tell me.
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valeriojack wrote:After making all this clear,
What would you recommend me? I'm Open to any Option.
I understand your concern but, if you're so worried about data loss, then I don't think your answer to run a FreeNAS box such a way should be the answer.
http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?thr ... zfs.15449/
http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?thr ... rst.23069/
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quest_for_silence wrote:I understand your concern but, if you're so worried about data loss, then I don't think your answer to run a FreeNAS box such a way should be the answer.
After a while, I found the source where your ideas about a FreeNAS box come from: Brian Moses' blog, if I'm not wrong.
Well, I think different: but if you are confident about Moses' thought, go ahead with it, its approach is well documented and likely thoroughly implemented, so that you really don't need that any SPCR reader have to discuss it, I mean, particularly without you did explicitly name that blogger.
Just to give anyone an idea of savings/more expenditures, that's how the things works money wise:
That's your proposed config:
That other is a setup based upon the first reliefs that I have made on that Moses' 2014-like config:
Last one is a setup based upon how I could build a cheapish not-ECC platform, somehow based on your above stated priorities:
Anyway, if you're looking for more and different contributions, IMO you'd better to start a brand new thread.
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Hi,
My bad about that blogger s name. I though was that he was some random guy not an community regarded professional.
I m having such a good experience on this forum that i wanted your opinions about what i found.
I ll make some more research and take a decisions.
Have a nice sunday
My bad about that blogger s name. I though was that he was some random guy not an community regarded professional.
I m having such a good experience on this forum that i wanted your opinions about what i found.
I ll make some more research and take a decisions.
Have a nice sunday
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
valeriojack wrote:I m having such a good experience on this forum that i wanted your opinions about what i found.
My opinion is that whether your primary concern is all about potential data losses, a 24/7 ZFS FreeNAS with not-ECC ram likely have an about 8% probability of a catastrophic failure (loss of all data, including back up), at least according to data posted by Moses himself (Google's report), and particularly when you had to throw in near in the future a PCI-E Raid controller (which AFAIK usually caches data into ram).
Although a mere probability has never to be regarded as a near certainty, taking the relevant risk should ever be a deliberate choice (as Moses did), and not the result of a mere cost savings: that's why I wrote " I don't think your answer to run a FreeNAS box such a way should be the answer".
Have a nice sunday to you too!
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Shopping has been done. Waiting for delivery.
I made some last minute changes as you may find out.
I m accepting the risk of non-ecc memory. I m not going to spend 1000€ on my nas now. I ll probably add another layer of security for a restricted amount of very important data by clouding it offsite. Basic security will be enough for less relevant things like movie and such.
I still have that stand alone LanHDD 2TB. I will find a way make scheduled backups of selected content to that too.
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Silverstone SST-GD04B USB 3.0 Grandia Desktop - black
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/silversto ... b-3-0.html
€95,25
Seasonic G - Series G - 360 360W ATX23
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/seasonic/ ... -360w.html
€58,83
Asus H97M - E H97 RG SM
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90mb ... l-h97.html
€80,33
PENTIUM DUAL CORE G3258 3,20 GH
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intel/bx8 ... 20ghz.html
€57,69
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev.B SCBSK - 2100
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/scythe/sc ... 2-rev.html
€34,38
ASUS STRIX - GTX750Ti - OC - 2 GD5
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90yv ... strix.html
€155,58
1/2 G.Skill D3 16 GB 1600 - 999 Ares LP kit 4x4GB
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€73,935 (full price is €147,87 i will use 8gb on another pc)
TV - Tuner Technisat Sky Star 2 eXpress HD DVB - S2 PCIe
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/technisat ... ss-hd.html
€42,59
250 GB Samsung 840 Evo
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00E391 ... KAKR8XB7XF
EUR 113,84
PIONEER BDR-209DBK SATA Brenner bulk Blu-Ray Duall
http://www.amazon.de/Pioneer-BDR-209EBK ... roduct_top
EUR 66,62
FLIRC
http://www.amazon.de/FLIRC-USB-Dongle-M ... roduct_top
€24,51
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller mit umschaltbarem D-Pad, chromsilber (Limited Edition)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007R9S ... KAKR8XB7XF
€39,23
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003VD5 ... KAKR8XB7XF
€26,68
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90
4Pin PWM Y-Kabel 15cm
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009XA2 ... MCBOO1ZDNA
EUR 4,50
HTPC TOTAL: €959,77
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Q1900 - ITX J1900 MITX
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asrock/q1 ... -mitx.html
€71,11
G.Skill 4 GB 1333
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... 99-sq.html
€36,78
NZXT SOURCE 210 ELITE Midi - Tower - schwarz
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/nzxt/s210 ... tower.html
€48,30
Bequiet System Power 7 300W Bulk
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/be_quiet/ ... ystem.html
€41,52
SanDisk Cruzer Fit 8GB USB-Stick 2.0 Grau
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005FYN ... KAKR8XB7XF
EUR 5,79
2x Western Digital WD30EFRX Red 3TB
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B008JJL ... F8DLK3OC2Y
€114.6 each
NAS TOTAL: €432,7
Extra stuff for my main PC.
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90
1/2 G.Skill D3 16 GB 1600 - 999 Ares LP kit 4x4GB
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€73,935 (full price is €147,87 i will use 8gb on another pc)
EXTRAS TOTAL: €93,83
ALL: €1486,3
I made some last minute changes as you may find out.
I m accepting the risk of non-ecc memory. I m not going to spend 1000€ on my nas now. I ll probably add another layer of security for a restricted amount of very important data by clouding it offsite. Basic security will be enough for less relevant things like movie and such.
I still have that stand alone LanHDD 2TB. I will find a way make scheduled backups of selected content to that too.
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Silverstone SST-GD04B USB 3.0 Grandia Desktop - black
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/silversto ... b-3-0.html
€95,25
Seasonic G - Series G - 360 360W ATX23
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/seasonic/ ... -360w.html
€58,83
Asus H97M - E H97 RG SM
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90mb ... l-h97.html
€80,33
PENTIUM DUAL CORE G3258 3,20 GH
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/intel/bx8 ... 20ghz.html
€57,69
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev.B SCBSK - 2100
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/scythe/sc ... 2-rev.html
€34,38
ASUS STRIX - GTX750Ti - OC - 2 GD5
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asus/90yv ... strix.html
€155,58
1/2 G.Skill D3 16 GB 1600 - 999 Ares LP kit 4x4GB
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€73,935 (full price is €147,87 i will use 8gb on another pc)
TV - Tuner Technisat Sky Star 2 eXpress HD DVB - S2 PCIe
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/technisat ... ss-hd.html
€42,59
250 GB Samsung 840 Evo
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00E391 ... KAKR8XB7XF
EUR 113,84
PIONEER BDR-209DBK SATA Brenner bulk Blu-Ray Duall
http://www.amazon.de/Pioneer-BDR-209EBK ... roduct_top
EUR 66,62
FLIRC
http://www.amazon.de/FLIRC-USB-Dongle-M ... roduct_top
€24,51
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller mit umschaltbarem D-Pad, chromsilber (Limited Edition)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007R9S ... KAKR8XB7XF
€39,23
2x Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003VD5 ... KAKR8XB7XF
€26,68
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90
4Pin PWM Y-Kabel 15cm
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009XA2 ... MCBOO1ZDNA
EUR 4,50
HTPC TOTAL: €959,77
-NAS-
Q1900 - ITX J1900 MITX
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/asrock/q1 ... -mitx.html
€71,11
G.Skill 4 GB 1333
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... 99-sq.html
€36,78
NZXT SOURCE 210 ELITE Midi - Tower - schwarz
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/nzxt/s210 ... tower.html
€48,30
Bequiet System Power 7 300W Bulk
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/be_quiet/ ... ystem.html
€41,52
SanDisk Cruzer Fit 8GB USB-Stick 2.0 Grau
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005FYN ... KAKR8XB7XF
EUR 5,79
2x Western Digital WD30EFRX Red 3TB
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B008JJL ... F8DLK3OC2Y
€114.6 each
NAS TOTAL: €432,7
Extra stuff for my main PC.
PC - Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter für Windows
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000MGV ... 0SX6NT1OWQ
€19,90
1/2 G.Skill D3 16 GB 1600 - 999 Ares LP kit 4x4GB
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/g_skill/f ... skill.html
€73,935 (full price is €147,87 i will use 8gb on another pc)
EXTRAS TOTAL: €93,83
ALL: €1486,3
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
Seems good components, hope you show some pics of the builds.
Im very interested on your comments about the GTX750ti Strix and how it goes with Asus H97M with FanXpert2 and the stock fans, remember to run the running so it establishes the minimum rpms for the fans.
Im very interested on your comments about the GTX750ti Strix and how it goes with Asus H97M with FanXpert2 and the stock fans, remember to run the running so it establishes the minimum rpms for the fans.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
Good News everyone.
I managed to get for cheap a Medical Proof Server built in 2003. As they don´t need it anymore.
It will surely have ECC memory and everything possible for a safe server. I guess at least a DualCore.
I´m happy. Big question is what could i do with the NAS hardware i bought a couple of hours ago.
I managed to get for cheap a Medical Proof Server built in 2003. As they don´t need it anymore.
It will surely have ECC memory and everything possible for a safe server. I guess at least a DualCore.
I´m happy. Big question is what could i do with the NAS hardware i bought a couple of hours ago.
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
Smartest thing would be to post stats of your server here and then either keep the new parts because of reasons or return them for refund.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
I still have to open it up. I bought it as a closed deal. I feel like it´s christmas.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
I gave a look at the server.
It is a HP xw8400 Workstation Xeon®
DDR2 667mhz 4GB
Dual Xeon 5160 3000/1333
I'm trying to cancel the order of the other non-ecc server and add 4GB of ECC RAM to this.
I'll use the 2x 3TB WDReds on this system.
It is noisy but will be in the basement so it doesn't matter.
I guess it is also costly to keep it 24/7, but for having it practically free a more beefy electric bill is an affordable price to pay.
It is a HP xw8400 Workstation Xeon®
DDR2 667mhz 4GB
Dual Xeon 5160 3000/1333
I'm trying to cancel the order of the other non-ecc server and add 4GB of ECC RAM to this.
I'll use the 2x 3TB WDReds on this system.
It is noisy but will be in the basement so it doesn't matter.
I guess it is also costly to keep it 24/7, but for having it practically free a more beefy electric bill is an affordable price to pay.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
I still miss some stuff. I m trying to change the evo 840 as i found out it has a firmware bug.
The strix fits. You close the case without prob.
Soon some pic
The strix fits. You close the case without prob.
Soon some pic
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
Samsung is working on a fix.
I'd suggest going Intel or Crucial instead, albeit the new Toshiba's have earned good reviews, but it is probably to early to have some founded long time experience with those former OCZ products.
I'd suggest going Intel or Crucial instead, albeit the new Toshiba's have earned good reviews, but it is probably to early to have some founded long time experience with those former OCZ products.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
The bug affects data that's been stored for a long time. The fix is in validation testing and Samsung says it'll have an Oct 15 release.Pappnaas wrote:Samsung is working on a fix.
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
I sent Amazon a mail to change the Drive to a Crucial.
It is the first time i bought from them so they are waiting for a credit card and address confirmation FAX. If they refuse to change the drive the order will be canceled anyway due to this missing FAX. It is just a matter of time.
About the server:
this RAM doesn't fit in it:
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/kingston/ ... 0-reg.html
it has 2x2GB of the following:
https://geizhals.at/qimonda-fb-dimm-2gb ... 50451.html
I'm sending back the kingstone and asked them if they have this other type of RAM.
If they don't have an other option i will have to search somewhere else or keep it with 4GB.
I will probably install Windows Server 2008R2 on 2x 500GB Drives in RAID, use one of the 3TB for NAS storage (i got WD reds) and the other to backup the data on the first.
It is the first time i bought from them so they are waiting for a credit card and address confirmation FAX. If they refuse to change the drive the order will be canceled anyway due to this missing FAX. It is just a matter of time.
About the server:
this RAM doesn't fit in it:
http://www.mylemon.at/artikel/kingston/ ... 0-reg.html
it has 2x2GB of the following:
https://geizhals.at/qimonda-fb-dimm-2gb ... 50451.html
I'm sending back the kingstone and asked them if they have this other type of RAM.
If they don't have an other option i will have to search somewhere else or keep it with 4GB.
I will probably install Windows Server 2008R2 on 2x 500GB Drives in RAID, use one of the 3TB for NAS storage (i got WD reds) and the other to backup the data on the first.
Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
i was wondering why you moved away from the i3-4160T, 35W ?
Seems a great option for HTPC light gaming - given the heat concerns.
I'm looking to do a similar build based on the i3-4160T, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any i3-4160T availability in the US (even as OEM).
Seems a great option for HTPC light gaming - given the heat concerns.
I'm looking to do a similar build based on the i3-4160T, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any i3-4160T availability in the US (even as OEM).
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Re: HTPC / Light to Medium Games
bkoehn wrote:unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any i3-4160T availability in the US (even as OEM).
AFAIK there's no need for any T SKU: you have just to lower the multiplier by a factor of 5 to reach the same thermals.