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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:31 am 
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Hi!

Does anybody has some experience or feel, how the 3.5" WD Red 1TB compares to below 1-platter 2.5" drives, from noise perspective?

I mean these:
- WD Red 1TB WD10EFRX (3.5", 1 platter, spec says 21 dBA)
- Toshiba MQ01ABD050 500GB (2.5", 1 platter, spec says 17 dBA)
- Seagate Momentus SpinPoint M8 500GB (ST500LM012) (2.5", 1 platter, spec says 2.4 Bel) (This is actually Samsung)

I actually have 4 of the Toshiba MQ01ABD050, and another 4 of the Seagate ST500LM012. The Toshiba is definitely quieter indeed compared to the Seagate when talking about the idle hard disk spinning. However the Toshiba parks the head and have very often clicking sound. Parking can be easily disabled although, at least in Linux OS for the Toshiba.

How a WD Red 1 TB idle noise compares to such 2.5" drives, I wonder?

All are 1 platter HDD's....

EDIT: and I'm also interested in WD 2.5" drives:
- WD Scorpio Blue 500 GB WD5000LPVT (2.5", 7mm, 17 dBA)
- WD Scorpio Blue 500 GB WD5000LPVX (2.5", 7mm, 17 dBA)
- WD Scorpio Blue 500 GB WD5000MPCK (2.5", 5mm, 15 dBA!)

Are these WD Blue notebook disks quiet?


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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:16 pm 
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I recently fitted 16 of the 4GB Green drives into a backup server which runs Linux. I used the WD idle3ctl program to check and turn off idling, which was set to 80 seconds if I remember correctly, definitely much longer than the 8s that was once the factory settings on these drives.


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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:38 am 
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speculatrix wrote:
I recently fitted 16 of the 4GB Green drives into a backup server which runs Linux. I used the WD idle3ctl program to check and turn off idling, which was set to 80 seconds if I remember correctly, definitely much longer than the 8s that was once the factory settings on these drives.

Thanks for the information, this is really good to know. It seems WD is shuffling their pack regarding the firmware of Reds and Greens - might be removing overlap, might be something else...

Regarding 2.5" drives, I have no idea. I've never used them in desktop builds. In laptops I've found at least one Blue to be noisier than my current Green (WD10EARS-00Y5B1), but this was years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:07 am 
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# for X in /dev/sd?; do echo "===$X===" ; idle3ctl -g $X; done
===/dev/sda===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdb===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdc===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdd===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sde===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdf===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdg===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdh===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdi===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdj===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdk===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdl===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdm===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdn===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdo===
Idle3 timer is disabled
===/dev/sdp===
Idle3 timer is disabled



all is happy :-)


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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:06 am 
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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:26 am 
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I wish I had found this thread earlier. The "new" WD Reds are awful. Even with one drive the seek noise is annoying but when you load a NAS with them it is unbearable.

As has already been mentioned, this is made worse by the "background scan" noise every 10 seconds or so which means they are never quiet. I checked the wdidle utility and they are set correctly.

My "old" 3TB Reds are very quiet but I've now tried new 3, 4, 5 and 6TB models are they all have loud seeks.

Why on earth did WD stop the user from changing AAM settings? This would have been easy to fix if we could.

Any thoughts on Seagate NAS drives seek noise compared to the new Reds?


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 Post subject: Re: WD Green vs. WD Red for quietness?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:55 am 
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Still don't have any new Reds to compare with, but I'm quite pleased with my Seagate ST3000VN000-1H4167. It's not as quiet as the old Reds, but it's well within tolerance range sitting under my desk in the workspace - it lets out grumbling noises and idles slightly louder*.

(* slightly louder than its RAID partner, a WD30EFRX-68AX9N0)

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