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 Post subject: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible??
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:23 pm 
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Out of curiosity I wanted to see if I could find a full copper heatsink as copper is literally just behind silver as the best thermal conductor. So I found the Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 NINJA Copper All Copper 6 Heat Pipes CPU Cooler and it is discontinued and i only saw on the pages about it support for lga775 which is quite outdated. Is there any way to adapt this to fit LGA 1150 Haswell? I'm pretty interested in the full copper design. Increases the heat transfer efficiency by quite a bit allowing you to run your heatsink fan incredibly slow.

Scythe SCNJ-3100 Ninja 3 Rev. B Socket LGA2011/1155/1156/1366/AM3/AM3+ CPU Cooler This looks VERY similiar in design to the full copper version. Can i adapt the mounting system from this to work with the full copper version?


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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:22 pm 
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Yes, it's easily doable. Just follow this - the copper Ninja has the same mounting system. You would only need a new 1156/1155/1150 backplate. I don't know if you can adapt the fixing system from Ninja 3 Rev. B, though.

In absolute terms, yes, copper is superior to alu. Still, in practice, the difference somehow wanes and is only marginally better. Ppl did comparisons between Cu and Al Ninjas and Thermalrights. I don't remember exact figures, but the gist was that given the price, availability and extra weight (desolate cantilever massacre of unborn sockets soaked in virgin blood) it's just better to go with Al versions.

OTOH, now that most people sell their old hi end 775 coolers for peanuts (where I live a perfectly good Ninja 1 goes for < 10 USD + shipping), it might be just fun to try it. A copper Ninja is also for sale on local auction service, priced at about 25 USD + ship. It is tempting, I admit ;) So yeah, if you can find one cheap, then go ahead.


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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:55 pm 
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My local hardware supplier here in the UK still has a copper version of the Thermalright TRUE in stock. The VX BTK bolt-thru mounting kit is supplied with it, so it would fit an Intel 1150/5/6 socket straight out of the box. This is not the case with the original Scythe Ninja, although it can be made to fit with some engineering. Whether you would want to do this given the weight of the copper versions is another matter. For the copper TRUE I note from the specs that it weighs 1900g or just over 4 lbs. If I remember the issue with all these copper coolers was that their cooling performance wasn't much of an improvement on the standard version, maybe only one or two degrees C at best. But it does look good...

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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:53 am 
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A while back I got a good deal on the black version. Also nice. :)

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Covered with fine dust it's not as sexy though. Negative fan pressure in that box. :p I wonder, the copper versions, do they discolor over time?

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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:00 am 
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I'd guess it's pretty unavoidable. Unless perhaps you're willing to polish or somehow treat the fins & pipes?

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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:52 pm 
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I found a copper scythe ninja for 30 dollars. Thats a lot cheaper then the 80 i spent on the noctua u14s heatsink. I'm gonna meet up with the guy tomorrow. That 50 dollars in my pocket. How does a scythe ninja copper compare to the noctua u14s. It does use smaller 120mm fans but with an undervolted haswell chip I'm sure I can have the fan spinning only 700-800 rpm and the cpu should be fine and nice and quiet.

Is the noctua u14s 50 dollars better?


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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:15 am 
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laststop wrote:
Is the noctua u14s 50 dollars better?

It is, because it will at least fit. The Scythe copper Ninja won't. It was incidentally reviewed by SPCR and this page from the review probably tells you all you need to know about the fitting issues. Read on from there for the performance stats which may surprise you.


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 Post subject: Re: Scythe SCNJ-CU1000 ninja full copper LGA 1150 compatible
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:27 am 
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yea i got a noctua u14s. You can never go wrong with noctua. Really good quality control on their products. Their fans may be pricey but they are also dead silent at the proper RPM and last hella long.


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