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Sparkytfl
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2004.54 (200.45 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts
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Marc
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.33 (201.03 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C
TDP: 78.1 Watts

Formatted per MikeC's request:

X2 3800+,Manchester,BH9-E4,67°C,1.35V,78.1W
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Beyonder
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X2 3800+,Manchester,BH9-E4,63°C,1.35V,65.6W

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.38 (201.04 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts

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mitro
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Another 35w chip:

Opteron 175,Toledo,JH9-E6,49°C,1.35V,35.0W

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2200.26 (220.03 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
This chip was originally intended to be an overclocker, and while being pretty good it was never spectacular, unless you're talking about the temps. So after just checking the TDP, I'm not suprised. It also runs stock speed stable @ 1.25-1.30v
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wundi
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X2-4600+, Manchester, BH9-E4, 59°C, 1.35V, 85.0W

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chinna_n
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Socket 939 X2 3800+, Manchester, BH9-E4, 63°C, 1.35V, 65.6W

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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 1808.37 (200.93 x 9.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts

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Athlon64 X2 3800+, Manchester, BH9-E4, 59°C, 1.35V, 53.1W

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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2405.46 (200.45 x 12.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 Watts

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Sgraffite
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2211.40 (201.04 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts


AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 1809.36 (201.04 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts
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Towermax
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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X2 3800+,Toledo,JH9-E6,63C,1.35V,65.6W
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geforce1
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X2 4200+, Manchester, BH9-E4, 63°C, 1.35V, 105.0W/65.6W

Note: This CPU came with the Aluminum cooler with 70mm fan (no heatpipes). Is there any correlation between the CPU's stock cooler and it's TCaseMax?

The 4200+'s undervolted and overclocked to 1.25v and 2.42GHz.

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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2412.37 (201.03 x 12.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 Watts
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Sgraffite
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Is there any correlation between the CPU's stock cooler and it's TCaseMax?


I don't believe there is any correlation.
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inti
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CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2255.16 (205.01 x 11.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 105.0 / 65.6 Watts

Same as geforce1. Currently on 1.25V and looking to reduce it. I don't understand what the two different TDP figures mean.

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Redzo
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2010.30 (201.03 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 53C
TDP: 32.4 Watts
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Golden Knight
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2202.82 (200.26 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 105.0 / 65.6 Watts

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M Moogle
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 1080.09 (240.02 x 4.5)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts
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rjm
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester) Rev BH9-E4, 1.350v, 63C, 65.6 Watts

TCaseMAX is equal to the CPU power drawn at max Vcc Icc, multiplied by the thermal junction resistance of the CPU package (and stock heatsink presumably), and added to the reference ambient temperature, as chosen by AMD, of 42 oC.

TCaseMAX = (TDP * 0.32 C/W) + 42 = 65.5 * .35 + 42 = 63

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf

Its the maximum temperature the CPU is going to return at full load at stock frequencies and voltages with the stock heatsink working properly and a case temperature of 42 degrees. But actually its just the TDP expressed as a temperature. Its not related to the maximum safe operating temperature of the CPU package.

Now, high TDP means more leakage current and hotter chips both idle and under load. Can someone explain why the hotties overclock better? Intuitively I would have expected the opposite.
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jaganath
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Now, high TDP means more leakage current and hotter chips both idle and under load. Can someone explain why the hotties overclock better? Intuitively I would have expected the opposite.


Do "hotties" really overclock better? Take Conroe for example, it's the coolest Intel chip for a generation and it is an overclocking marvel; 100% OC no sweat.
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Mari0-Br0s
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2210.31 (200.94 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 65.0 / 40.6 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

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It seems I'm the only one at 1.30 vcore!!!

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Redzo wrote:
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2010.30 (201.03 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 53C
TDP: 32.4 Watts


This topic is for X2.. :wink:

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pony-tail
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Mine is socket 939 4600+ X2
CPU Id 20FB1
APIC 0
Revision BH9-E4
Processor AMD Athlon 64X2 4600+ (Manchester)
Speed 2412.47 (201.04x12.0)
Platform Socket 939
VCore 1.300v
TCaseMax 57c
TDP 75.0 Watts
Hope this is of some use !
I forgot to add this cpu is only about 1 month old and is a warranty replacement (runs at 55c with 2x prime 95 (TR XP90C cooler)

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Looks like there is at least three different TDPs for the Opty 165.

Rev JH9-E6, 1.350v, 59°c, 85W

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 165 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 1808.36 (200.93 x 9.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 85.0 Watts
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jwoolen01
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2420.26 (220.02 x 11.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 71C
TDP: 89.0 Watts

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Redzo
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Here's mine. CPU is overclocked though.


CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2440.75 (244.07 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts
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kike_1974
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2412.42 (201.04 x 12.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 75.0 Watts
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snutten
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Revision: BH9-E4
Processor: 3800+ Manchester
Socket 939
VCore: 1.350v
TCaseMax: 63C
TDP: 65.6 W
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Tobias
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I got an odd one for you. The processor in question is 4200 X2 65W. All other software identifies it correctly...

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 4B, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 40FB2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Low-Power Mobile AMD Sempron 4100+ (Unknown)
CPU Speed: 2210.23 (200.93 x 11.0)
Revision:
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.100v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C



EDIT: I found Mats post from april 18th which explains some things about this chip:

Quote:
Hot running, can do over 3 GHz.


How to find out the thermal profile:
1 - Find the CPU in this document, A64 = page 30, FX = 56, X2 = 91.
2 - The thermal profile is a letter (row 5 if present).
3 - You find the corresponding themal profile on page 10 for A64, FX = 51, X2 = 86.
Opteron here, with the corresponding pages 25, and 10 - 11.


According to this document my chip has a TDP of 21.9 o_O
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ajemm
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I just replaced an 89W X2 4400+ with this 175. It runs 2500 MHz at 1.35v as opposed to 1.425v for the X2.

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 175 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2499.96 (250.00 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

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