Unless the system becomes unstable, I'd certainly try enabling 1T and going with CAS latency 2 (the rest has much less of a performance impact).

Looks to me like you could just solder it back in (given steady hands and a bit of practice with a soldering iron, of course).

Any word on a version with DVI or HDMI? Gees, you'd think that in this day and age DVI would be a give in. Wouldn't count on it - Intel imposes certain restrictions on the features of Atom-based designs, and IIRC analogue-only video is one of them. Did they finally change the packaging of the south...

According to wikipedia, that 27W figure is the TDP for the processor alone.

they are dead on and the corporate analysts arent. They predicted an ati buy out from amd a good while ago, like a long time ago. Everyone was saying this was an odd idea. jeez. thats a huge idea to get dead on. (merger now) Oh please. If you keep making shit up at the rate TheInq does, sooner or l...

If he'd pulled the same results with components three years ago, I'd be standing on my chair clapping. Raise your hand if you remember the 5800 Ultra. Silencing THAT would be a trip Current graphics cards produce just as much (or more) heat as the 5800U did (which btw also underclocked itself in 2D...

anaqer, its very interesting what you say about that Gigabyte motherboard, how many have you tried.??? Two, both produced the same results. I wanted to link the newegg customer reviews section where I read a good handful of similar reports, but apparently they no longer even carry the board. Bummer.

I have used a few Gigabyte motherboards, link below. http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1939&ModelName=GA-K8N51GMF-9 Forget it, that thing eats PSUs for breakfast. Killed a Chieftec DT-350 under a month and won't even POST with a nice 300W, 24pin HP uni...

ATX12V connector... wtf for?

JazzJackRabbit -
judging by images of the board, applying heatsinks to the MOSFETs is going to be a huge pain in the ass due to space constraints - I wouldn't bother unless a) it already runs very hot, b) you are going to raise vcore significantly, or c) you are trying to OC a Prescott.

I don't know about CrystalCPUID... but while regular C&Q works, I couldn't get RMclock to NOT crash when trying to change VID/FID.

JazzJackRabbit wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is high definition audio?

This?

SB and NB on same die, more heat, but also larger dissipation area. nF4 runs hot, but we don't know why, honestly. I can be because of the one chip solution, but it's only a guess. The single chip solution in and of itself isn't that bad - what makes the nForce4 run hotter than, say, the split NB/S...

OK, I know what you're really trying to say is "It's cr@p and I already know why", so why don't you go ahead and explain why the Cell will be a disappointment rather than this kind of cryptic comment. Not outright 'crap', just woefully inadequate for the desktop - if you want the details, I suggest...

jaganath wrote:Wow, that looks tremendously exciting-

I agree with what you wrote.

McBanjo wrote:Why buy a new one if you have a good old one?

Because the 'good old one' may not be good enough anymore...? Keeping in mind the (supposedly quite a bit) higher TDPs for the M2 processors, I don't think you'll really want to hold on to whatever you have at the moment.

Not directly related to the test itself, but would somebody happen to know how many amps the universal AGP port can draw from the +12V rail? I've got a Solano-based system that I wish to upgrade with a GF 6200A, but the power supply is rated for a measly 4.2A. The DVD-ROM and the hard drive can draw...

Though it says it runs at 2000 MHz (another typo, like for the 3200+) and it got 256 kB L2 cache (one more typo?). That's a miscategorised Sempron 3400+ (notice the 'O3' instead of 'K4' in the OPN). (Mats, I tried both with integrated and discrete graphics and HTT multipliers as low as 1x - sadly, ...

Mats wrote:10x236 is better than 9x250.

True, but not $60 better (which is how much the 'upgrade' did cost).

The board is an Asrock K8NF4G - it's a rather plain budget board, but even so many on the ocworkbench forums reached near (and even above) 300 HTT speeds... I'll have to give clockgen a whirl though.

Sounds like something is holding you back I'm guessing it's the motherboard, but in an extremely quirky way. A Newcastle 2800+ ran (and still runs) at 9x250 with zero problems, but the Venice won't go over 236 FSB no matter what (240 FSB will boot but BSOD on loading Windows). Latest BIOS, extra vo...

I'm curious, what sort of OCs do people get out of these chips (mainly the 3000+) ? I've got one and no matter what I do, it won't really go any faster than 2300-2350MHz which is barely any better than what my Newcastle 2800+ did. So I'm wondering - is it the norm or did I just get a bad one?

I hear that the temps for most performance /wind tunnel cases is much higher than that for the dualsata II one, about 40~ degrees. I wonder, is that even the same 'dualsataII' (and NOT the S939 part with the ULi chipset) ? I'm only asking because it seems a bit unusual to me that anybody would put ...

Since it has a pretty decent sized heatsink with a Zalman CNPS7000 blowing down on it, the northbridge is actually merely lukewarm at the base. The soutbridge does feel noticeably warmer, but still not any more than my hard drive (which reports temperatures between 37-39 °C).

~El~Jefe~ wrote:(p.s. I bet you own an nforce4 board and are irritated that it is needlessly hot)

Asrock K8NF4G. Stock passive cooling, chipset temperatures peak at mid-30s. Thanks, drive through.

Nice for you Jefe, but maybe you could stop pimping your KV8 (and S754 in general) in just about each and every topic and start using a spell checker instead? Just think how swell that'd be!

Hm, I wasn't aware of the Turion connection - that explains things.
Neat, maybe I'll get one instead of this aging Newcastle 2800+...

ronrem wrote:Want a 512 cache to go on a $60 mobo AND run cooler than a Sempron?

Why would that run cooler than, say, a Sempr0n 3100+ or a 3400+? The TDP may be lower, but why do you think that actually translates into lower temps?

Points 1 through 4 are entirely valid - but as for #5, we've yet to see any trace of the Holy ATi Soutbridge (ie. the elusive SB600) that's supposed to fix all bugs and shortcomings of previous incarnations. ATi may now have a better incentive to *really* look into the matter, but a 'couple of month...

I know what 'optional' means, thankyouverymuch.
I just find it infuriating that you have to pay extra for it (IF you can hunt it down someplace) because it's not included with the board. Same with the TV-out bracket.

That SoundMax thing ASUS seems to be so fond of any good? I rather hate the idea of having to install separate drivers just because. (And wtf is up with *optional* S/PDIF connector?)