So any results gathered from a testbed in those conditions cannot be blindly extrapolated to other situations, such as: And you expect to be able to do this? Such a science lover wanting "blind extrapolation"?! :roll: Oh come on, I don't like the big "rolleyes" attitude. :( And no, I don't want to ...

I'm sorry to see that my (quite bold) statements are countered with a sense of hostility. Maybe I'm not putting my thoughts into words decently. I have the idea that all heatsinks are tested with: 1) no ambient (relative to the cpu-heatsink) airflow impedance 2) 20°C ambient temperature 3) horizont...

I disagree that the results aren't useful. The heatsinks' relative cooling capabilities are not going to change unless you choose the wrong ones to use in the wrong way -- ie a topdown squeezed too tightly in a narrow case with no room above the fan. My motivation to make my previous post came from...

Another problem with this methodology is that the heatsinks are tested in the open air. But since that's a different way than most of people will be using their heatsink (in a case, mounted vertically), this creates unrealistic conditions, which can alter the results in ways that are irrelevant to m...

That is nasty! ;) What are your gfx and cpu coolers btw? Also what gfx card and what cpu doe you have? Do both cpu and gfx card have decent temperatures with this "passive" cooling? By the way, when actively letting a fan blow on a heatsink for that very purpose is called active cooling. :p No reall...

As stated here, there is yet another passive HD4670!

Big woop, or really something significant?

Plus a 45W dual core, stock is 1.9GHz, but I'll be interested to see how fast I can get it wound up--they seem to have a good rep as overclockers (cherrypicked for running on low voltage obviously). You could've gone with the 5050e, also 45W but clocked higher at 2,6GHz, which is a whopping 37% mor...

Or did the 95W TDP quads already perform way below their limit? Yes, did you see my link about the QX9650? It's rated for 130 W, but it uses less than 65 W. I checked your link and it seems that the "load" the cpu's are enduring in that test isn't really full load. According to some of my previous ...

Isn't it nice that many quads come from 95W TDP to a whopping 65W TDP? That is only two thirds of the original power! What's wrong with that, really? Or did the 95W TDP quads already perform way below their limit?

AMD and Intel need to get the TDP down if they want me to buy them. Just wait another month and AMD will have 95W TDP 3.0GHz models knocking at your door. ;) Which will hopefully perform the same at a lower voltage, thus lowering the temperature and juice used, while at the same time heightening th...

When I go by these graphs, the HD4850 is considered more efficient at idle than the GTX260. That is not the case in this review, which favors the GTX260 for power consumption at idle.

What gives?

In the budget range of computers, the 10 to 20 dollar difference can be significant imo. Especially when you don't really need an 780G mobo over a 740G one, just pick the cheapest available, since both boast the newer SB700 southbridge with nice sata & usb performance and am2+ cpu support. Just my t...

In this comparsion (with CPU: 4850e) between this two MBs* I see that the Biostar with the 8200 chipset consumes 7W less than the 780G Gigabyte on Idle! What do you suggest, I'm asking just because I didn't saw many people using 8200 chipsets... What do you think? *really is 780G vs 8200, but seems...

I thought the 4050e was 2,1GHZ, while the 4450e and 4850e are 2,3 and 2,5GHz respectivly. About power consumption: I read an article on the Phenoms or something like that on Tom's hardware guide, and he showed that the 4850e draws just at the boundary set by its TDP (45W), while the 4050e draws some...

The 780G chipset has been surpassed by the new 790GX examples of which SPCR has in the lab now. Wait for the review here. The cost advantage AMD has to Intel is gone with the more expensive 790GX based boards. I've already read a review on techreport and they state that the 790GX is not a (big) imp...

If cost matters anything, I would surely recommend you to go AMD. 780G (AMD, not nVidia) based micro atx mobo with HDMI, AthlonX2 4850e (or lower) 45W, for a total price of $150 or €125 if you're lucky. Such a low price is certainly not possible with Intel. Also: the 780G chipset has the best Blur...

With RMclock or other software, can I adjust below 4x multiplier? The lowst speed/multplier Rmclock allows is on a compaq presario f730us with amd tl-55 1.8ghstock is 4x - 800mhz. as earlier vista power save is 4x 800mh 0.9v rmclock lets me go to 4x 800mh 0.7v a near 40% reduction. rmclock's drop d...

Dear Dan There are drivers for your laptop f730US, try the following links: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071219181542AAEfRtX http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1172754 the only problem is bios on certain hp compaq models there is an opt...

Current Ati HD 4870 and HD 4850 are excellent cards beating crap ut of nVidia competition and racing with GT 2x0 series. However GF 9800 GTX(+) , albeit its only rebranded 8800 GTS is pretty cheap and does offer nicely horse powers and decent stock cooler. + version is better than non-plus. I think...

I'm sorry, but is that Asus motherboard an older 790FX + SB600 chipset based one? Maybe it's better to wait for the SB750 based motherboards, 790FX/GX, to arrive anytime soon normally. The SB750 with the special ability to clock a Phenom X4 a tad higher (or the same clock but at lower voltages) is ...

I'm sorry, but is that Asus motherboard an older 790FX + SB600 chipset based one? Maybe it's better to wait for the SB750 based motherboards, 790FX/GX, to arrive anytime soon normally. The SB750 with the special ability to clock a Phenom X4 a tad higher (or the same clock but at lower voltages) is a...

Look at this thread over @ XS . Excerpt: Most peeps think that the e8500 warrants a better OC with less volts, and except a few batches this seems to be true also... If that's the true, I may be getting an E8500 for my OC'ed gaming rig instead of an E8400. It ought to be with that vast difference i...

CPU; I'm now considering the E7200 vs. 5000+ Black Edition. I tried the comparator at Toms, and I like it. I used an old Sempron 64 2800+ as a substitute for my Soc. A Sempron 2800+, a a Core 2 Duo E6750 instead of E7200 and a 5000+ and a 6000+ (=OC'ed Black). I tried the Pinnacle and PhotoShop ben...

I look like it uses 44W in idle, when setup with regular components. Damn dissapointing. http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=48431 My 2GHZ E8400 and 2Gb ram does 50W - on a 750W psu and 40W on a pico. And you can actually use that setup for more than browsing... Better luck next ti...

Hardly seems worthwhile for the performance hit! Although look at the Atoms heatsink, it looks like the tiny thing thats on my South Bridge! Amazing that the chipset has a better cooler than the CPU! NB takes 20W IIRC. :roll: That explains why the heatsink on the NB is bigger than on the Atom cpu. ...

Hej Andru By now, it take 2-3 hours for finalizing the video, before burning a DVD. If it can be taken down to a half an hour, I'm satisfied - it's not an every day task. Besides, converting 2x14 gig files into a single 4 GB file, will most likely make the disks the limiting factor at some point......

The Phenom X4 9100e is just reviewed by Tom's Hardware and runs at 1.8GHz and 1.1000V at default. They could up it to 2.4GHz while still retaining the default vcore setting. I have to mention though that the 9100e is a B2 core, not a B3, but I guess B3 can't be worse than B2. Since the X3 uses one c...

EDIT: The PSU claims 70% efficiency at 75 W and roughly 80% at full load on your computer (130'ish watts). http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=106&type=expert&pid=6 *Assuming that your PSU really is Seasonic S12-600. Is that 75W that comes with with 70% from the wall or from the psu? Because if th...

Also power usage and heat depends more on the amount of sticks than on the memory capacity of the sticks. I cannot back this up with hard numbers, but I have lurked a lot and I've seen a general conscensus: less sticks of ram is better!

AMD totally lacks vision. PowerXpress would allow us to put the loudest, most performant radeon into the case and not have it turn on at all until we game. Why the hell would they not think it worth it. If they can make the card idle at only some watts, then the cards should be able to be kept cool...