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by BrianF
Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

I just purchased an ASUS ROG Strix H370-F. The fan controls are fine in that every header can be set for DC/PWM, can have a predefined or totally custom curve complete with multiple temp/speed points, rise/fall times, etc. The BIOS and software pretty much mirror each other in terms of what you can ...
by BrianF
Thu May 31, 2018 4:23 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake
Replies: 27
Views: 16907

Re: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake

My Define C should be here tomorrow so I'll get a better sense once I see it in the flesh. What I might do to try and spread the cost out a little is start by moving the included rear fan to the front (so 2x120mm Fractals there) and get an NF-S12A for the rear. Then down the road look at upgrading t...
by BrianF
Tue May 29, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake
Replies: 27
Views: 16907

Re: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake

For clarity, here is a quick photoshop job to illustrate what I am thinking. This is depicting 140mm fans: FDminiC_Front.jpg A 140mm in the top position is mostly unobstructed (but its not what I would call perfect). A second one under it definitely starts to have some metal in the way, especially t...
by BrianF
Mon May 28, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake
Replies: 27
Views: 16907

Re: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake

Thats a great shot of the front you found. It looks like a 140 in the topmost position would be all but unobstructed, but a second one under it would at very least have that 2nd horizontal "bar" plus the corners encroaching on its aperture a little bit. Nitpicking to be sure, but if using the filter...
by BrianF
Mon May 28, 2018 3:46 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake
Replies: 27
Views: 16907

Define C: 120mm vs 140mm intake

3 x 120 or 2 x 140 on the front intake....opinions? Normally I'd think the 140s but the way the case's front steel has been stamped it looks like they wouldnt have total open-aperture awesomeness (unless you dig out the Dremmel and start pruning).
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Fractal Design Define Mini C question
Replies: 19
Views: 12865

Re: Fractal Design Define Mini C question

Thanks very very much for checking that! Sounds like either one will do. I currently have one 2.5" SSD and one 3.5" drive but I'd like to at least have the contingency for one more (without resorting to burring 2.5" drives of any kind to the back of the mainboard plate).
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Fractal Design Define Mini C question
Replies: 19
Views: 12865

Re: Fractal Design Define Mini C question

Looking at the pictures I would have thought that the inset cable management "channel" at the front might be show stopper but yakuman can tell us more later maybe? :)
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 10:21 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 31933

Re: M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?

ASRock H370M Pro4 has its 'prime' M.2 between PCIE-1 and the CPU. Probably better airflow than under the GPU, but less accessible (as it's easier to remove the GPU than the HSF). Thanks. I looked at that one but ASRock is not available to me. The MSI B360M Mortar has x4 M.2s both above and below th...
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 7:10 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 31933

Re: M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?

Putting m.2 drives right under a videocard is never a good idea. Do we think that moving it just one slot over would make all the difference? Almost all the boards I'm looking at ( example ) are positioning the "prime" (x4) M.2 socket there. That has to be better than RIGHT under a 2-slot GPU? It'd...
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 6:25 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

What I would do if you wish to do some fans being controlled by the videocard, get a new Asus strix, most come with two extra pwm standard fan headers. Yes, I used one for a customer a few months ago and it worked very very well for controlling an intake fan pointed at the video card (including ful...
by BrianF
Tue May 22, 2018 4:28 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Fractal Design Define Mini C question
Replies: 19
Views: 12865

Re: Fractal Design Define Mini C question

Rather than start a new thread....

With the PS/drive shroud removed completely, is there enough room to mount a 3rd drive to the top of the drive cage, or does the motherboard panel interfere? What if it were a 2.5" drive?
by BrianF
Fri May 18, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

Does MSI, through software, let you associate a motherboard fan header with GPU temp (assuming an MSI gpu of course)?
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: GTX 1070 Review Compilation Thread
Replies: 122
Views: 95512

Re: GTX 1070 Review Compilation Thread

I checked our dealer costing on them today and saw a marked drop this week alone.
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

I may well have misinterpreted what I saw. Are you thinking BIOS or Software though?
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

I had a chance to play with a friend's MSI Z270 Pro board....wow the BIOS Fan control is nice! Separate custom 4-point curve for each fan plus DC/PWM selection of course. I just wish there was more than 2 sensors (CPU and "System"...which I suspect is really chipset temp). Conversely I looked at som...
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Larger vs. smaller cases
Replies: 3
Views: 3471

Re: Larger vs. smaller cases

Thank you for you thoughts. I actually very much like the NZXT S340. It is ATX but very sensibly sized, only slightly larger than most mATX cases. It has only one important flaw for me: the exhaust grills are quite restrictive (which is odd because all their other cases use the familiar and efficien...
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Larger vs. smaller cases
Replies: 3
Views: 3471

Larger vs. smaller cases

I have a gargantuan Antec P280 with next to nothing in it (mobo, gpu, and two drives). For years I've been saying my next build will be a smaller mATX based one, but now that I'm actually looking at some builds, they seem awfully "cramped": The GPU is closer to the CPU on mATX boards, an M.2 between...
by BrianF
Thu May 17, 2018 4:58 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Anyone try an NZXT case?
Replies: 3
Views: 3726

Re: Anyone try an NZXT case?

Dont I feel foolish now. :)

(sadly a google search for reviews doesn't bring up SPCR until the 5th page)
by BrianF
Wed May 16, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Anyone try an NZXT case?
Replies: 3
Views: 3726

Anyone try an NZXT case?

I had a chance in passing to see an S430 case and I have to say I was astounded at the physical quality, especially at under a C-note. Far less flimsy than Corsair or Fractal. Nice compact proportions (for an ATX case). Not sure how well it would work for a quiet build. The only air-inlet apertures ...
by BrianF
Wed May 16, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: VRM phases: voodoo?
Replies: 8
Views: 5289

Re: VRM phases: voodoo?

Just for conversation... From left to right (in terms of CPU vCore): 8 phase (2 fets per) / 4 phase (4 fets per) / 4 phase (2 fets per). There are all non -OC boards (H370/B360). VRMCompare.jpg Now the really interesting thing here is that the PWM chip, High fets, and Low fets of the first two are i...
by BrianF
Wed May 16, 2018 3:50 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: VRM phases: voodoo?
Replies: 8
Views: 5289

Re: VRM phases: voodoo?

Found this article which has some interesting information, but perhaps outdated? One thing he mentions is that a phase will always be made up of two mosfets, one-high one-low, with either a driver IC OR a third mosfet acting as the driver . I dont know if this holds true anymore because I see a lot ...
by BrianF
Mon May 14, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

MSI Z370 Gaming M5 - Superb bios fan control, all headers are switchable on the bios (PWM/DC), 4 breakpoint graph to detail your fan curve, no limits per header you can go as low as your fans can and if they were capable of stopping the mobo will be aswell." Encouraged by this I looked at a couple ...
by BrianF
Sun May 13, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: Silent Storage
Topic: M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?
Replies: 9
Views: 31933

M.2 SSD under GPU: Bad idea (in a quiet PC)?

Not sure if this is a motherboard topic, or an SSD topic... How much concern do we as quiet PC buffs have with M.2 sockets which place the SSD right under the heatsink of a typical 2-slot GPU card? Thats a pretty big source of heat on top of it (perhaps the biggest generator of heat in the PC) but e...
by BrianF
Sat May 12, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: AMD AM4 motherboards and ECC memory
Replies: 4
Views: 4820

Re: AMD AM4 motherboards and ECC memory

I'm not quite as well versed with AMD as I am with Intel, but my understanding is that AMD never formally supported ECC on that platform. I've read some discussions about getting it to work, but seems sketchy. https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/search?DeviceType=2&Mfr=ASR&Line=Motherboard&Model=9608...
by BrianF
Fri May 11, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: What about VRM cooling?
Replies: 7
Views: 5551

Re: What about VRM cooling?

Decision time: A very generous soul ordered me an NH-U9S. From the pics it looks like the fan can be dropped 10mm or so? Guessing that would be enough to send air strait to the VRM bank opposite the fan, but what about the other bank ("next to" the air direction)? (I know you are thinking "just try ...
by BrianF
Fri May 11, 2018 9:31 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: VRM phases: voodoo?
Replies: 8
Views: 5289

Re: VRM phases: voodoo?

That's why you also look at the load power graph. Just so I understand, what we like to see is low consumption both at idle and under load because that would be a strong indication of an efficient design, yes? But is it still possible that a given mainboard exhibits a low consumption under load not...
by BrianF
Fri May 11, 2018 8:39 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Next gaming build
Replies: 79
Views: 110593

Re: Next gaming build

How have your VRM temps been on this build? Clearly the absence of a downfiring CPU cooler has been an non-issue for them, eh?
by BrianF
Fri May 11, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: VRM phases: voodoo?
Replies: 8
Views: 5289

Re: VRM phases: voodoo?

Thank you both for the resources. I'll have to make time to sift through Buildzoid's channel (overwhelming amount of interesting material). There are still a few sites out there that collect lots of motherboards and compare them. So, you can at least get an inkling of idle power draw. Forgive the re...
by BrianF
Wed May 09, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: VRM phases: voodoo?
Replies: 8
Views: 5289

VRM phases: voodoo?

I remember a looong time ago, back when Intel still made and sold their own branded boards (how I long for those), they had a white paper which basically talked about how a board with a pile of VRM phases was not necessarily a good thing. Some cheap boards they said, use an abundance of them to over...
by BrianF
Wed May 09, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!
Replies: 27
Views: 16919

Re: Current state of fan control with Intel platform!

smilingcrow wrote:I have all the parts except for the board and CPU cooler which I want to order this weekend.
So what did you go with in the end?