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by tbessie
Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:07 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Klusu wrote:
tbessie wrote: ..a board that works with memory X and Y...
You don't know that. Do you?
Well... *sheepish look*... noooo. :-)

I know nothing about how the new board will behave. For all I know it might work with neither of the memory sticks I have.

- Tim
by tbessie
Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:06 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Well, I'd just keep the old one. Benefits: - Don't need to reinstall windows, which you might have to do with a new mobo. I'm not sure on this. - Don't have to take the old mobo out of the case and put the new one in, which is a lot of work. - The old mobo likely uses considerably less power. See h...
by tbessie
Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:00 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Wayne Redpath wrote:I won't tell you what to do. I will educate and recommend and help to clarify. Things to consider are that the Intel board is certified for the E3200 CPU and what are your return privileges, shipping costs and restocking fees.
Well, thanks for all your suggestions anyway. :-)

- Tim
by tbessie
Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:34 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

re: "Decisions decisions!" When doing a repair or upgrade on older hardware 'you-gotta-do-what-you gotta-do'. When using current hardware you have the luxury of using qualified memory and CPU. When your hardware works 100% at stock speed then you can use the over clocking features to ensure that yo...
by tbessie
Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:07 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Ok, I ran memtest86+ all night (12 passes) on the new memory - and DID NOT GET ANY ERRORS. That's so strange -- to me (and several other people here) with the tests I did, it pointed to the board more than the memory. So if it was, indeed, the memory/board combination that was at fault, could it jus...
by tbessie
Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:14 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

I will indeed do that, because I *am* curious. I just hope this board doesn't somehow damage the new memory, if that's possible. No it won't damage the memory, since you aren't running the memory at high voltage. Some motherboards boost the DRAM voltage above what the BIOS shows, but never enough t...
by tbessie
Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:56 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

lm wrote:Imo you should test the new memory on the old board. Otherwise you (and us) will never know for sure it's the board.
I will indeed do that, because I *am* curious. I just hope this board doesn't somehow damage the new memory, if that's possible.

- Tim
by tbessie
Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:12 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

By the way, after I bought this new board, I checked, and the Celeron e3200 isn't listed on it's list of supported CPUs. Just about every other Socket 775 CPU is, but not that one. Do you think it's worth trying even if it's not on their list? I've emailed Gigabyte to check, hoping I won't get back ...
by tbessie
Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:36 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Allright, ran the test at memory speed of 667 (or whatever the one down from 800) is, all day, and it got 10 errors at the same spot out of 16 runs. It don't bode well for this board. If anyone can make a good case for the memory being at fault, given how I've swapped the memory sticks between DIMM ...
by tbessie
Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:25 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

If it turns out I need a new board, and Intel won't send me another one, I'm thinking of getting this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358 Rather overkill, but I like the 8 onboard SATA connectors, and it's gotten rave reviews on newegg, which is rare with that bunch of c...
by tbessie
Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

I have seen no conclusive evidence whatsoever that there is a problem with the Mainboard. It's very clear that: = Intel did not claim that those memory modules are compatible with that Mainboard. = Corsair did not claim that those memory modules are compatible with that Mainboard. = extensive testi...
by tbessie
Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:37 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Klusu wrote:I mean lower than 800.
667, whatever.
Of course, memory must be good at its rated speed. Sometimes it isn't.
Ok, just changed mem frequency to 667, running the test while I'm at work, and will report back.

- Tim
by tbessie
Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:28 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

The prime suspect is still the memory. You must get the error with other sticks before changing the MB. You still haven't tried lower memory frequency, have you? I have two CM2X4096-6400C5, 1.90V ver4.2. Voltage above 1.8V does not improve anything (other brands work better at higher voltage). Do y...
by tbessie
Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:26 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

I used to own this same memory. I had very VERY similar problems with it. Memory is pretty cheap these days, so I switched to G.Skill. Haven't had a problem since. *knocks on wood* For memory to be functioning properly, it needs to pass memtest at stock clock speed, and stock timings as specified b...
by tbessie
Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:20 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

The reason I suggested Ballistix is simple: they are bin selected for high margin to support outrageous overclocks, and they are cheap. (They are also really gaudy; if that bothers you, put some tape over the LEDs :) ) Many other memories are also binned, so don't take this as anything other than a...
by tbessie
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:41 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

tbessie Have you tried an older Memtest+ release? :) Maybe something is wrong right with the v4.0? And how about Prime95/Linpack? I had been running an older release (2.something) that came with Ubuntu Server. Same results. Haven't tried Prime95 or Linpack. Going to try windiag. Do Prime95 or Linpa...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:53 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Ok, I ran memtest86+ with both sticks in the 1st two slots (Channels A/B), and got an error. Although this time - though in a similar place in the word (most significant nibble), but a different memory location. No *obvious* connection between the addresses: When error happened with memory in dual-c...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:37 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Wayne Redpath wrote:What about those Sharks ,EH...
I don' git it?

- Tim
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:08 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

The problem here is signal integrity on a memory buss line. It is probably not a data line. I know that you are seeing a data error, but if the problem is an excessive buss loading issue then it is probably an address line or secondly one of the control lines. You said "I try the test on just one s...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:42 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Does "The memory was recommended when I bought this board on NewEgg" mean that the NewEgg sales rep recommended this parts combination? The correct recommendation would have not have been hearsay, but reliable technical research. If so then I would hope that they would correct their error. Well no,...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:06 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

By the way, I wanted to thank everyone for all their help and suggestions! This is by far the friendliest and most helpful, knowledgeable forum (all at once) of any of the computer-building forums I've participated in. Who wouldda known? Isn't it just about silent computing? :-) Maybe people who app...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:09 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

By the way, what's the difference between those, say, and these ones that Crucial's site actually recommends for this motherboard? http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=7BE627F2A5CA7304 Besides the flashy lights, I mean? :-) CL6 vs CL4. A measurable but perhaps not noticeable perform...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:47 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

I don't know if Ballistix memory is better than Crucial memory, but the recommended/tested memory is always your best bet. Next best is Kingston ValueRAM. Intel says not to use double-sided DIMMs with x16 organization which I think means 16 IC's with 8 IC's each side of the PCB organized logically ...
by tbessie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:10 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

More joy (ie. lack of)... I've confirmed that the memory effect I'm seeing is indeed real (if there was any doubt). I had rsync'd my whole multimedia collection from one set of disks to another on this machine. Just as a test, before I wiped out the old storage), I ran a diff -r -q oldHierarhy newHi...
by tbessie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:47 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

I don't see any Corsair memory on the "parts which passed testing" list on the Intel support site here: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dq45cb/sb/CS-029529.htm I have not yet found a mainboard that did not work 100% reliable with Kingston ValueRAM. This is the memory test I recomm...
by tbessie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:56 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Can these things be caused by the CPU itself, or is it most likely the motherboard? No, it wouldn't be caused by the CPU. This kind of failure occurs on the bus between the north bridge (MCH) and the DIMMs. The underlying cause is the north bridge chip, the board traces, or the DIMMs (or DIMM conne...
by tbessie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:54 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

line wrote:I would also try another power supply, especially if the one in use is not a name brand.
I'm using one of the top SPCR recommended PSU (well, for silence, anyway), the Nexus Value 430. Is that well known enough? My other builds all use Corsair modular PSUs.

- Tim
by tbessie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:17 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Well, since I threw the packing materials away, NewEgg won't take the motherboard back. They suggested I call Intel. I called Intel. Intel told me that they'd need to see more than memtest86+ failing... eg. they'd need to see, specifically, a BSOD when starting Windows, or other similar kind of typi...
by tbessie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:24 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Damn - ran it all night with the memory in Channel B (black sockets), and got the error twice over 8 hours.

Time to call NewEgg. Bleh.

Can these things be caused by the CPU itself, or is it most likely the motherboard?

- Tim
by tbessie
Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:43 pm
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: memtest86+ question with new board and memory...
Replies: 65
Views: 9918

Can you pick up one of the modules and see what's the voltage rating on it? You can find it under the model name. Yes, it's 1.8v. The Corsair web page on this memory says 1.9v sometimes, and 1.8v sometimes, but the package itself has 1.8v. Someone was saying that they may have used the same memory ...