CA_Steve wrote:A replacement fan won't fix the problem.

Something like this (or maybe this) would do that, in case.

dasKrokodil wrote:Also, a friend of mine suggested the Node 304. Both seem to make better use of their interior space compared to the Define Nano.

In case, the Fractal Core 500 and Lian Li Q10 may be more sensible choices than the Node 304: check the relevant SPCR reviews.

croddie wrote:Is there any other fan speed software I should consider?

TTBOMK no: albeit you might try whether GB sw for 200-series mobos work (I don't think so, BTW).

So maybe the corsair is a better option due to the fans? Absolutely no (I mean, the fans are not better under any respect). Another mainstream case for quieter as posible build? As said by Steve, it mostly depends of the build: BTW the Define C sports different fans (actually different bearing, lon...

Smanci wrote:such as the Metis PLUS

Oh! They addressed the main weak of the Metis, nice!

LongJan wrote:Nevertheless, with 100-150W load I am sure any of those cases easily can be made both cool and quiet so it comes down to personal preference and aesthetics.

Yeah, overkill/brute force is always an option!

However I just have to protest against that... hot box??? :? Yes, and there are also some data around for the Thetis, in french : those cases, as well as IME most of inverted ATX designs and closed front panel ones, run noticeably hotter than competitors. I am sure it also will work fine with the t...

dhanson865 wrote:uggh, word is now that the 4 core versions are 2+2 (all CCX configs must be symmetrical, 4+4, 3+3, or 2+2).

If so then the 4 core loses it's one big advantage (I thought it was getting around the CCX issue).

QED...

Take a look at Raijintek Thetis ...snipped out... CPU heat is exhausted by a bottom rear fan. It suffers of the same Styx & Metis (and of both inverted ATX design and solid front cases) issue: it's an hot box, at least with stock cooling, and particularly for passive GPUs, and it cannot be improved...

If we then expand the view to include... I didn't and I see no reason to do that. I don't see why you wouldn't. Hey dhanson, long time no see! Welcome back! It's pretty straightforward: because it's not available. I spoke of what can be actually measured, not about leaks or educated guessworks. Wit...

NeilBlanchard wrote:which - in theory - would move more air at any given RPM.

The CFM/RPM ratio of these eLoops is not very favourable, particularly if used as intake fans with filter/grille right before.

NeilBlanchard wrote:Admittedly, not many other 140mm fans, but it is good relative to the 120mm fans I have used.

Thanks.

And now at which speed do you usually operate those Phanteks?

Looks like the Noise adapter is out of the question then because the M12-P is 2.04 Watts. It's borderline, not unfeasible, but neither comfortable. I took a look at the TY-147A and it looks like it has 120mm mounting so I might be able to use the stock 120mm clips to mount it possibly? It's definit...

I have the GA-Z170MX-Gaming 5, and yeah lowest RPM is 1077rpm at 0% PWM In PWM that's the speed range (1000-2000rpm), it can be downvolted 3-400rpm more but you don't have a proper header (a fully controllable DC one, I mean). I would probably go this route if the clips were sold on Amazon but sinc...

Thanks for sharing (BTW, a little above 800rpm is an acoustically noticeable pace, usually).

My only criteria are that it's under $15 or under and that the performance is good (obviously quiet as well). Looks do not matter to me (it will be inside an Define R5). Noctua NA-SRC7 Scythe GlideStream 120mm PWM SC Scythe GlideStream 120mm PWM SY1225HB12M-P Scythe Slip Stream 120 PWM SY1225SL12LM...

case I look at is Phanteks Evolv TG edition The Phanteks EVOLV suffers of a too restricted airflow, and a SLI setup is starved for air. If you like the EVOLV over any other design, a watercooling setup could be better suited. The Enthoo Pro (not M) is in my experience the most versatile case in Pha...

NeilBlanchard wrote:the best 140mm fans I have found are Phanteks PH-F140XP_BK 140mm PWM.

Which other fans did you compare it to?

Altairst8te74 wrote:would Scythe sell me a kit?

If you're in Europe, Scythe usually send spares to end users (payment usually by PayPal).
If you're in North America, YMMV.

I guess Google (and XDA) is your friend.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpo ... tcount=171

Olle P wrote:If we then expand the view to include...

I didn't and I see no reason to do that.

NeilBlanchard wrote:Good to know - there are about 30 other PSU's to choose from under $100.

Well, you're all in for a "quantitative approach"!

Set aside you showed off to not understand what actually their IntelliSeek does/how it works. Set aside that writing a statement without explaining or providing a fact from specialized company/devs shall be ignored. I didn't get you here, but be aware that trolling is deprecated here, take that int...

dor342y wrote:All I wrote above covers the rest of your post.

Set aside you showed off to not understand what actually their IntelliSeek does/how it works.

dor342y wrote:It's ridiculous to argue whether it's possible if the product's engineers can tell us better.

The only ridicolous thing here is reading you clutching at straws.

Notwist wrote:the ugly clicking noise is NOT present on the 24V fans! In fact, they sound basically identical to your typical beige F12 (for good and bad).

As a matter of fact a 24V 3k is rather similar/almost overlaps the std F12 but at twice the price: does it worth?

RPM isn't fixed - look for "IntelliSeek". IntelliSeek is already implemented in WD Blue & Green. Here we discussed those things several years ago (likely a decade ago, IntelliSeek was already here with the venerable Caviar SE16), and your interpretation is plainly wrong. That's an old but handy rec...

Although the old Silver Arrow was one of the top recommended heatsinks, I haven't seen the updated version, the IB-E, mentioned much. How well does it work for low airflow? At least as well as the original SA. Also, does anyone have recommendations for the bottom fans? Noise-wise, am I better off s...

Found one: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-ryzen-1700&num=9 Near the bottom of the page is a chart of gaming power usage for 1700, 1800X, and 7700K. Looks competitive. OTOH the gaming power draw is almost entirely due to the graphics card, while the CPU power consumption is c...

DanceMan wrote:Did anyone find a test that reported watts at the wall plug for an equivalent package, Ryzen vs. Intel?

I didn't read anything definitive, but Bit-Tech/Hexus/KitGuru and TechSpot have some insights.