Well, there have been considerable performance gains, especially in the midrange section. The 4850 is ~1.5-2 times as fast as a 3870, a 4670 is slightly slower than your 3870 (included thus as reference). Just a quick overview on ATI's side, information included is: Card name -> power draw idle/load...

But consider that eSATA is simply SATA with a different connector; a simple adapter SATA cable w/ captive PCI cover port is all that's needed for eSATA. Well, aside from the differences and the space concerns already mentioned, looking at the accessoires picture this does not seem to be incuded. Wh...

Well, if the OP could enlighten us as to why he wants to replace his card?
That is kind of a rather important bit of informaton missing.

Out of the blue, the stock 4770 is pretty much silent, as the fan almost never ramps up (except if the room is at ~28 deg. C and you are playing modern games).

I really think no eSATA or firewire should be listed in the cons section. This leaves you with no direct high speed access to external storage, which is to me - and I guess many enthusiasts - a rathe big con. Which should be readily apparent especially if you only check out the pro/con section.

The 940 passive with a Minja? Sounds unbelievable! Anyone got a link to that? Anyway, I am using a Xigmatek HDT-S1284EE ($40) on a Ph II 720. The base of the 1284EE is a perfect fit for the Phenom II heatspreader, so all four heatpipes (the difference to the HDT1283 reviewed by SPCR) make very good ...

Regarding the power supply: I have a similar system (4770, Phenom X3, 8GB DD3, Gigabyte MB) and I draw ~140W from the wall during regular 2D use. Even with the more power-hungry i7 and speedstep disabled, there is no way his system exceeds the PSUs "comfort zone". Back to the problem at hand: As the...

Totally makes me question the x3 720 vs x3 705e comparison if undervolting the higher TDP part works as well. So I guess that is the big question does undervolting work generally across the board with retail CPUs from INTC and AMD? There is a thread in the CPU Cooling section, where a user undervol...

Is there a well-regarded passive version of the 4670? There is a passive Sapphire version on newegg, but the reviews were rather negative (temperatures too high). Then there is a HIS card wth a Zalman Cooler, but that is rather expensive (~$90 insted of ~$60-$70) The stock cooler is pretty much qui...

Another thing that caught my eye was the Gigabyte passively cooled HD 4850 - GV-R485MC-1GH at ~ £120 I would not recommend that card. The 4850 has a very high idle consumption, which - espacially combined with passive cooling - requires quite a bit of case airflow. If you read some reviews on e.g....

I did avoid the Core 2 Duo in my build, because the socket is pretty much at his end of life. If you want some room for future upgrades, I would suggest the AMD AM3 socket and one of the X3-CPUs. The pocessors do consume a bit more power, but seem to undervolt quite well . With regards to RAM, there...

but having used a netbook for a little while now- i don't think i could ever use an atom full time, the cpu is simply too slow. only when they start kicking out more performance would i consider using one in my main pc :) Funny. I have used a netbook for 8 months now, and I would not consider to bu...

I can not fathom a private internet connection that could put any significant wear and tear onto a hard drive. Do you have a permanently maxed out Gigabit connection or what? And even if, what the heck are you doing with all that data? We have scratch disks, which get written to from the local machi...

Any research institution stupid enough to put one of these in their labs or offices probably deserves what they get. I'm sure the wonderful folks in the PLA wouldn't want any of your data, though, so go ahead and give it a try. Well, here in my group we repartition the HDD and throw SuSeLinux on th...

Perhaps the CPU Overclock Calculater can help in the absence of a Kill-a-Watt. If I enter 2800/1.325 for the Stock settings and 2800/1.39 for the Overclock settings, it gives a result of 105W. Overclock 2800/1.23 gives 82W and 2800/1.168 gives 74W. That does not seem to be reliable, as the result a...

A >33% reduction in power consumption under load by dropping the VCore to 1.23? That looks quite impressive... I think I'll try that too once I get my new system.
Was that the lowest you could get? And what PSU are you using?

There is nothing wrong with the HR-01+, except that the s1283 retails for $20 less
(+$6 for the bolt-through-kit, which due to the low weight of the s1283 is not really necessary imo)

After one of the crashes, when it does not reboot, you could try to boot from a Linux Rescue-CD/USB-Drive. I can't provide you with a complete testing procedure off the top of my head, but something along lshw [check for SATA controller], lshal [check for HDD manufacturer name], hdparm -iC /dev/sda ...

Have you already tried removing the two "stock" fans, suspending the HDD and getting a new cooler (which you could use in another case anyway)?
Before you run out and buy a whole new setup

Sydneyboi wrote:nice card silo :PP wat ram sinks are they

Scythe VGA Heatsinks
A very useful set to have around. Cools VRMs, Ram, whatever you want. And you can stick the rest on the sides of your suspended HDD's^^

MSI have a different PCB layout at Computex , smaller cards with the GPU where it should be. Thank you for the link, that looks really nice. I would like that cyclone cooler variant (if it's not too expensive). Now, if only they could get these cards on the actual market... *twiddles thumbs impatie...

Regarding DDR3:
The only mainboards supporting these are the AM3 or LGA... err, the i7-socket. However, this is not what you are looking for, right?
The power and speed difference is marginal, anyway.

~El~Jefe~ wrote: that's still a newegg random webpage!:

You have to scroll down a bit.

Well, some time has passed and it is about time I make a decision. So far, I have settled on a Phenom X3 720 BE and a 4770 (still hoping for a passive version... hopefully soon...). However, I have trouble deciding on a mainborad: There is the Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P and the Asus M4A78T-E . Both ha...

Did you notice that he overclocked his 4770? And if you do that, the performance is about the same, see Xbitlabs for a review with the card clocked to almost the same speed. Of course, I do not know what the power consumption is with overclocking, but I doubt it will make up the 50W difference to th...

but it is well known that heatsinks that come with processors do not compare with those that you can add afterwards This is true for Desktop computers. However, due to the limited room and not standardized arrangement of components inside a laptop case, it is very very improbable that you will find...

For anybody who wonders how it works: The pump has two basic parts. An electrode tip emits a high voltage that strips electrons from molecules of oxygen and nitrogen in the air, ionizing them. These positively charged ions then flow from the tip to a negatively charged collector electrode. As the io...

Puppy Linux does just what you describe "out of the box", so if you are not particularily attached to Debian, it might be worth a try. You might have to modify some scripts to make it save to flash only on shutdown instead of every 10 minutes or so (you wany to remove the USB, right?), but that shou...

Text driven enviroment ?! Ehm, you do know that it is 2009 right ? C'mon, joke aside you can't really expect that in this age ppl should go back to using text based comands ? Why are Linux ppl still stuck in 70s ? Because we want to get more work done faster, preferably without having to intervene ...

I will move because of 64 bit - I'll get 8 GB of RAM in my next machine - and because of gaming & driver support. But actually, gaming is all I will use Windows for - the 90% of the time the machine will run under under Debian. To me, Windows just keeps getting in the way - GUI's and other distracti...

my advice, keep your 4670 it rocks, its small, it has punch, efficient, compatible, etc. (im going to have to rape my s1 and make a mess out of my case because of that extra pci connector) :lol: Then return your 4770, go back to your 4670 and finally STFU? Sorry, but your constant, baseless ranting...