I'd like to mount the case to the back of my TV, which is why I have chosen the M350. If there are other suggestion for a case that will allow me to VESA mount it, I'm open to other suggestions http://www.sundialmicro.com/lianli_gaming-mini-itx-tower-case-pcq09fr_1703_1945.html http://www.sundialmi...

Does it have to handle 3D gaming? Will you type of gaming do fine with the 2d hardware acceleration that will be available under Windows 8?
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If so can you live with Ivy Bridge HD4000 integrated video capability and forgo a video card?

Why you should delay buying a Dual Core CPU The only Intel Dual Core CPUs are the Sandy Bridge CPUs. They suport Direct X 10 but not Direct X 11. Windows 8 makes use of hardware acceleration under Direct X 11 to substantially increase its performance, (and reduce energy usage). The performance incr...

Get the Mugen or the Macho or the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus, whichever is cheapest. Assume that you will need to replace the Hyper 212 with a Nexus or slipstream fan.

The front fan is set at the bottom, the rear is above midway level with the CPU, so they are not facing each other and I think the air flows would merge, It isn't about flows, it is about pressure. Each fan is exerting pressure against the other, wherever they happen to be located, each forcing air...

several programs, including the MythTV backend process, firefox, and a few others were all consuming 100% CPU. The Big Shuriken fan had ramped up to full speed, as was quite audible. CPU temperature was over 90 degrees Celsius. And the case was too hot to even touch! I didn't know what was wrong, s...

Stree wrote: It seems to be isolated from the airflow in the case and is only vented at the top and some smaller vents to the back and side.

Can you flip it over so that the vent is facing downward?

My other thought is to reverse the rear fan and have this too blow inwards, You have the germ of a good idea. The problem is that most fans don't respond well to fighting each other like you propose. By the way, the force of warmer rising air is very weak and will be irrelevant in your situation. B...

Correct me if I am wrong, but you should have two front 92mm fans not one 120mm fan correct?

HFat wrote:Check with the supplier of your motherboard. They may know.

I am highly confident that you will not be able to engage them in any kind of useful conversation on this subject.

Is there any reason why you do not want to use an after market down draft cooler?

AckeDman wrote:However Noctuas have a somewhat high starting voltage so they dont always start up on lowest setting.

Use the Scythe Gentle Typhoons, they will start up at well under 5v.

The Gene is mATX and offers all the features you could ask for (USB3.0, PCIe 3.0, SATA 6 Gbps, Fan Xpert 2 ) and more (even does SLI and overclocking). No annoying little fans yet powerful cooling and that macho colour scheme , thanks to being geared towards gamers. TechPowerUp's review finds the p...

majax79 wrote:Which motherboard would you recommend then?

What uses do you intend to put it to? What features do you expect to need? What types of performance attributes are most important to you... efficiency, rapid boot, easy over clocking, or ?????

What information makes you confident that the Sabertooth has not been optimized for silence? It is marketed to overclockers who like the macho bling. The same people to whom fast memory with heat sinks and heat sink memory fans are marketed to. This market segment values many things... but not sile...

It isn't mandatory, but why would you not use a down draft? Not all the tower coolers are good, but almost all the down drafts happen to be good coolers.

And they come in some very high cooling capacities. See:
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.c ... 562&page=5

Well, I ultimately went with the Big Shuriken 2 Revision B. Now that you installed it, do you know if the Noctua The Big Shuriken 2 Revision B is 58 mm with the stock fan. The Noctua NH-L12 is 66mm high with just the bottom fan. When running with just the bottom fan, it doesn't need any headroom, t...

Silentmaxx promises to cool CPUs with a power consumption of up to 100 watts - without the need of fans. 135mm high isn't too bad "Dimensions (mm) 210 (B) x135 (D) x160 (H)" "The Twin Block is suitable for passive cooling of all the CPU with a power dissipation of about 100 watts." http://www.tomsha...

If you want some real water cooling muscle, try this Corsair Hydro H100, with two 120mm Sycthe GT fans See: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2665&page=7 and: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2665 But here is the problem with water cooling. When it breaks it is c...

You are just asking for trouble. I am highly confident that this board has not been optimized for silence or ease of replacement and repair. I recommend you consider buying a motherboard without the y chromosome black bling.If you need good motherboard cooling, you are better off with a dual fan dow...

An undervolted Nexus will do... or the slowest Scythe GT you can find.

When you jump to an SSD, even the slow ones are fast. I trust Intel because of its reliability, which has been documented to be 4 to 5 times greater than that of other SSDs. See: http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/french_retailer_data_offers_ssd_failure_rates/ Intel just dropped their prices. Th...

I'm not the one to push kW-powersupplies to every build, but that's some serious hardware behind a small budget PSU :shock: Other than that, looking good! Is it? 2600K and 7850 don't consume that much power AFAIK. Why not get the SPCR recommended Seasonic X 650 or one of its derivatives? Under 200 ...

180mm fan in the front and 200mm (Phobya 200mm) 1. I don't think there are any quiet fans of that size. 2. water cooling radiators are high impedance / static pressure applications. Smaller fans are inherently better at such applications. 3. If you are married to the case and big fan radiators... s...

Olaf van der Spek wrote:Does it really matter (much)? If so, how much?

I don't think that matters any more with modern CPUs

The chip set on the new Haswell CPU will use half the wattage of the Ivy Bridge chipset:
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But I think you should consider a mini-ITX. Take a look at the LIAN LI PC-Q11B Black Aluminum Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112297 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112296 Given that my setup uses few components (1 hdd, ...

1) I didn't even consider it before but would a similar setup on a mini-ITX board in a smaller case with fewer fans and a PicoPSU be a good option, or would it become too hot/noisy? The size of the case is not relevant, what counts is the quantity of air coming in and out - which carries the heat w...

Ahem, how would I under volt the fans? Take your choice: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36_48&zenid=0d66f73a65be9522707237de358c9648 These are my favorite... it is easy to test and reproduce the same speeds. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?ma...

Lkdog wrote:Corsair AX750 PSU

Get a PSU from this list. The Seasonic X-650 is what I would recommend.

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Oops, forgot this link
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Recommended_PSUs

Need fan advice. Here are the fan choices at AVADirect for their QUIET Gaming build:[/b] SCYTHE Mugen 3 (3000 or 3100) various Noctua NH variants Thermalright silver arrow SB-E Promlimatech Megahelams These are all good heatsinks. I would start out using their stock fans. If that isn't good enough ...