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by cpemma
Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:02 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Resistor calculator for undervolting fans
Replies: 17
Views: 9621

...It's there way to calculate the RPM's of a undervolted fan? It's safe to say that my 7000RPM@12v fan will be a 3500RPM fan at 6v? In an ideal DC motor world it's not far off, but several fans I've disembowelled have a safety diode in series with the supply (losing maybe 750mV) and the electronic...
by cpemma
Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:02 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Fan Adapters for Case? Dilemma--Advice needed.
Replies: 2
Views: 2049

If enlarging the case aperture is a no-no, I'd be very tempted to make up a duct (as long as possible) with cardboard & duct tape (what else?) to try the fan.

The lower revs should be more peaceful, at worst you'll not get the rated flow.
by cpemma
Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:40 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Just as I thought.. most HSF's are designed all wrong :)
Replies: 30
Views: 18972

THAT DEAD SPOT DOES NOT MATTER :wink: The heat will spread on the heatsink It's one of the reasons swapping a 60mm for an 80mm fan may give higher temperatures even when the rated flow is similar. A bigger motor diameter, a bigger dead spot. I picked up CoolerMaster's 60-80 adaptor SFC-P68 today, h...
by cpemma
Sat Jun 07, 2003 1:59 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Is it worth upgrading my Antec case fans?
Replies: 5
Views: 3531

The Antec fans on my 1030B are (IIRC) about 34cfm and were fairly noisy at the full 12v. At 7v they're quieter than 12v Panaflo L1's and push adequate air for a cool case. I did remove the waffle-iron grilles, which also helps reduce the wind noise. Panaflo L1 are nothing special, they're just a low...
by cpemma
Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:35 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Fan Motor Hacking?
Replies: 3
Views: 2186

You can certainly reduce the extra noise produced at lower revs by PWM controllers, by blunting the pulse attack with a small capacitor between base & ground on the switching transistor. Telcom produced an Application Note (AN58) to go with their PWM chips, but I've used the method with various home...
by cpemma
Wed May 28, 2003 1:30 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: 3v in 12v fan.. still spins.. :)
Replies: 1
Views: 1593

Many fans (including Panaflo L1) have a protection diode in the power line, dropping about 0.75v, and the Hall switch drops 250-300mV, so there's not much left of the 1.5v to get through to the motor coils. :wink:
by cpemma
Tue May 27, 2003 1:47 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: 100r pots from maplin
Replies: 8
Views: 5612

Maplin, in their wisdom, discontinued the 3.5W wire-wound pots ("loudspeaker volume controls") that were ideal for fan rheos, they came in a range 20R-200R. The 100R cermets are 2W rating, and should be OK for fan loads up to 175mA, though a 150mA limit would be safer. An alternative source for a 3W...
by cpemma
Thu May 22, 2003 1:25 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Panaflo L1A's at 7 Volts?
Replies: 6
Views: 3750

The resistor must go in the red wire if you're using speed monitoring. Otherwise fan negative is above ground potential and could damage the mobo. :!:
by cpemma
Sun May 18, 2003 7:41 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: My Own Fan Controller :lol:
Replies: 14
Views: 6637

Re: Wire size vs current capacity

... But since the wires inside the fan stay the same size as you lower the voltage, the resistance to power flowing through the fan increases. I suggest you check Ohms Law :wink: Reasons for the non-linearity are the non-ohmic voltage losses across the protection diode (if fitted) and hall-switch o...
by cpemma
Sat May 17, 2003 3:13 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: My Own Fan Controller :lol:
Replies: 14
Views: 6637

There's yet another complexity I've not allowed for (ie forgot :oops: ) in the above formula. Many fans have an internal protection diode on the supply line, so the 12v fan is actually running at around 11.25v, and at 6v is down at 5.25. This will account for some non-linearity. :? edit: to add a fu...
by cpemma
Sat May 17, 2003 2:41 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: how do you..
Replies: 4
Views: 2552

Running fans at 5v is dodgy (some will not start every time) and is probably best implemented by a switch with 12v/5v options rather than the permanency of a molex conversion. For 7-volting a pass-through molex pair, you can remove both the fan negative black wire and the red wire at both ends and s...
by cpemma
Sat May 17, 2003 2:25 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: List of safe fan contollers?
Replies: 4
Views: 3745

...According to reviews I've read the small heatsinks on the Zalman get painfully hot to touch pretty quickly. Reviewers do like to overload controllers. :roll: With typical single case fans a small (25-30C/W) sink is fine. In fact, doing the maths, a 200mA fan running at 6v 100mA will produce 0.6W...
by cpemma
Sun May 11, 2003 3:08 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: My Own Fan Controller :lol:
Replies: 14
Views: 6637

...AFAIK the calculation would be (12V-7V) / I (fan current) = R (resistor value) It's a tad more complex, Resistor value = (12-V) x 12 / (V x I) Where V is the voltage you want the fan to run at, I the fan current at 12v. (steps on the way shown here. ) So to 7-volt a 0.2A fan, R = (5 x 12) / (7 x...
by cpemma
Sun May 11, 2003 2:44 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: 80mm Fan Roundup at AMDMB
Replies: 3
Views: 3244

They have a CFM-to-dB graph in the review, but isn't dB based on a log scale? True, but the noise/flow does follow a fairly linear pattern for fans from similar model ranges. http://www.cpemma.co.uk/graphics/noise_flow.gif The Papst fans all hug the "best" line, and YS-Tech the "worst". :roll: Delt...