kind of interesting that fan resellers/manufacturers even bother trying to give specs... especially since their performance/sound can vary so much fan to fan and in different PCs. CPUs and video cards cost 40x as much as just about any fan and those people aren't stupid enough to include benchmarks ...

er duh, was too tired to notice the first article even, i was referring to the overclockers one too, whoops. What are you saying? If AMD had 75% percent of the market now, intel would be forced to rush out a desktop dothan, or even a dothan with an integrated memory controller. or just sell prescott...

Actually, arguing about these things is completely pointless - some seed will always fall on barren ground. Simply because a few nobodies are unable to see beyond mechanistic thought, there's no reason to get dragged into arguments about semantics. Rory, it's the strength of your faith which impres...

well, he gets the most important thing (indirectly) right: dual core cpu = admission of defeat poor intel :( edit: just read the article, don't think it's too far off the mark, kind of heavy on the rhetoric though, and the first few paragraphs sound google-translated. :P i never realized AMD's profi...

the iPod drives aren't spectacularly quiet, but it's hard to be objective (obviously you're normally wearing headphones, and in loudish places). you can hear the drive spin up from a couple feet away (in a normal quiet room) if you're paying attention, but can't hear seeks/spinning from more than, s...

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OC'ers.com wrote:measured 8" from the fan's intake

will still be too loud for most of you at 1m, but give them some credit.

and it seems to have two things going for it that almost no other kits do: it's not a complete waste of money, and it looks like it does better than air cooling.

I suppose, Straker, that an important difference is that while a dictator is no different from an ordinary man, God has the authority by His very power to make whatever rules he wants. I guess this would be a good time to be thankful that God doesn't seek to condemn us, but instead to save us from ...

i was going to suggest simply stacking them too - even better if you can find two brands/models that rotate in opposite directions of course.
if it's a radbox or if space permits, push/pull may be worth trying too, if you're using a rad more than an inch thick.

an x800 would be totally wasted on a 2100+. i have a p4 2.4 right now, in literally any game i can switch from lowest res and crap IQ settings to 10x7 or 12x10 and max AA/AF etc and fps will be the same. :P it's not so much that the CPU is a bottleneck, just that something will always be limiting yo...

just read the craig-pigliucci debate, not one of Craig's better performances, i read most of the others earlier. i wonder who Pigliucci is and what his specific field is; he mentions near the end that he's a biologist and he mentioned some things i've already said (but i'm not using crib notes :D ),...

Of course, since the premise I added, that humans inded have free will, is inconvenient to your arguments against the God of the Bible, I'm not surprised you left it out. well, it may or may not be inconvenient to my own arguments, but i didn't leave it out at all because i haven't been responsible...

Instead, he had to come to us, revealing himself and parts of His plan to people a long time ago. Those people were commanded to write what they were given, and it is from those writings that the Bible was assembled as a library of useful writings for knowing who God is, discerning things about His...

Let me explain it in another way. If God exists and he is good, then he would want to end suffering. If he is omnipotent, he would be able to end suffering. But there is suffering. Therefore God does not exist. most certainly not, this only means that it cannot be the case that God exists, AND he i...

the RAM will have no effect at that level, unless you're somehow driving enough pixels at enough bpp to use all of it. :P 3d games/apps use it for storing textures, and triple buffering and antialiasing and such all use modest amounts of extra RAM i think. given that it's still just a 5200 i can't t...

(slightly off-topic: i find it interesting that so many people are willing to accept a plastic front panel. why are people willing to accept plastic in their home office but not in their living rooms? my impression is that it has to do with expectations and not much more: we are all used to cheap-l...

But the Vantec Stealths I have are rated at 21db. According to all online documentation I've seen "online documentation", nuff said. you're lucky to get manufacturers testing in identical conditions, and even then it's hard to tell if it's a fair comparison... on top of that, cfm/pressure/sound lev...

weird, maybe then. maybe those sensors are completely irrelevant, a lot of boards have fake sensors that aren't really sensors (and give <0 temps, or the difference between two other sensors or other weird stuff). wtf is that thing stuck at 57C then? and i wasn't saying mbm and speedfan should be gi...

Now you understand the motivation for Intel to move to the 775 CPU form factor: It's the board makers with the pins now & they're the ones to hold the bag. yeah, I brought that up once here a long time ago, but I had also forgotten that Intel makes tons of motherboards... so it's hard to say if tha...

If we knew too much of our destiny, we would no longer dream and hope of our destiny, provided the destiny could not be altered. It might cease to be great, if something else wonderous and great was not involved: ie., you're destined to develop a silver tongue (an amazing and wonderous ability). oh...

ATITool will show temps, so will the Overdrive panel in the new drivers but that's disabled on more or less random cards. I think the new Catalyst Control Center thingy shows temps but never tried it, it doesn't seem to think I have drivers installed...

Nah, I was talking about my old dual P200 system. What did you use to clean your P4? Alcohol, perhaps? yeah, just alcohol, q-tips at first, then switched to an old facecloth (now ruined, but i was expecting that) and then lens paper after getting like 30 qtips dirty with no measurable progress. :P ...

yeah, what spod said. the older Clawhammers have 1MB L2 cache but the newer ones make up the difference with a higher clock at the same rating (ie 2.2ghz vs 2.4ghz for the 3400+ i think)... not sure exactly what performance diffs between the two are. if you're getting a new cpu/mb shortly you may as...

Straker , so you think a little uncertainty provides meaning, perhaps even a sense of superstition or religion (b/c we end up begging/praying for nature/God to grant our wishes)? Ie. an agrarian lifestyle leading a man to pray for rain. er, maybe, but what's that have to do with what I said? :P noo...

odd, that was on your Northwood? mine was just one of those foil + two layers of sludge deals. it was fairly dry and the HS basically fell off before I could even get the retaining clips off. it took like 40 mins to get the HS + CPU clean too, stuff was like tar.

using mbm + speedfan could be breaking it, should only run one at a time... and on top of that, look at speedfan, that sensor changing from 30->32C doesn't look like the CPU.

don't worry about the ram sinks, especially if you aren't overclocking. if whatever card you end up getting needs them at all, it'll come with some and those will be fine... only exception i can think of is if the ones that come with the zm80 have a really low profile due to clearance or something, ...

kits are generally a good way to spend $100-300 for what spending a quarter as much on air cooling could get you. :P not sure if it would fit but if you're just lazy but willing to spend money, check the measurements on the vga block that comes with the Reserator. i'd expect that block would fit, si...

hmm, coils always make noise, MOSFETs shouldn't make much/any though, weird. inductors basically do the same thing capacitors do (wrt DC power regulation), but with current instead of voltage... if you could obtain approximately the same gauge wire and an iron ring about the same size you could just...

what could you possibly need more than like 1 or 2 PCI slots for, if that's all that's holding you back from SFF? just get a mb with onboard everything.

yeah. vacuuming is pretty weak and canned air gets expensive... i just take components outside, blow all the dust off (no way to vacuum between dimms/heatsink fins etc anyways) then use q-tips and alcohol after.