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Enclosures and acoustic damping to help quiet them.

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Post by PPGMD » Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:49 pm

Blappo wrote:I could buy a BQE locally for a few bucks less (after tax vs order from Antec with the US-Cnd $ conversion). It is depressing seeing a > $35 price difference between AMBs and BQEs locally when on the web they are a few dollars different.
I wouldn't judge the prices just yet. Once they enter the channel, the prices can be cheaper than the MSRP that Antec charges on it's website.

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Post by Cob » Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:47 pm

Mmmmm, very nice. Glad to see Antec listening to the enthusiast community.

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Post by acaurora » Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:21 pm

Question for AntecRep -

Will the 3000B utilize the same drive rail mechanism as the 2650, or will it use the older system used in the 3700BQE? I have heard the 2650's rail system is pretty intuitive and great to use...

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Post by LH » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:37 am

I too have a question for AntecRep.

I know the grills of the SLK3000B are like the grills on the SLK3700-BQE, but how is the rear fan of the SLK3000B mounted? In other words, does it use the SLK3700-BQE rear-fan mounting or the SLK3700AMB rear-fan mounting (that requires some modification for better noise/vibration reduction)?

Hopefully I'm not being too confusing, but if I am, I believe the rear-fan mounting differences between the AMB and BQE are covered in Ralf Hutter's reviews of these two cases.

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Post by Blappo » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:10 am

mathias wrote:What's stopping you from getting a 3700AMB then?
Well I would prefer black and a case without a PSU (I know I could sell the PSU on eBay). I am waiting for 939 MB with PCI-Express :( before building a PC so I can wait on the case. A local shop just dropped their price on the 3700AMB to $79 Cnd so I still might get one.

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Post by AntecRep » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:31 am

Drive rails will be like the 3700's.

I'm pretty sure the 3000B rear fan is mounted like the BQE.

Also in case you missed a minor change we've made on the product page. The included fan is one of our new TriCool fans, so you can manually select the speed the fan will run at (Low, Medium, or High).

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Post by mathias » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:29 am

Blappo wrote:Well I would prefer black and a case without a PSU (I know I could sell the PSU on eBay). I am waiting for 939 MB with PCI-Express :( before building a PC so I can wait on the case. A local shop just dropped their price on the 3700AMB to $79 Cnd so I still might get one.
Good price. I think the 3700AMB is a much better case than the BQE because the hard drive cage is removable, so you can put a drive on foam at the front of the case with some kind of platform, or suspend the drive(s) in that area.

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SLK-3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipping

Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:52 am

Hello:

The Antec SLK3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipping. 8)

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Re: SLK-3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipp

Post by Slipstream » Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:10 pm

NeilBlanchard wrote:Hello:

The Antec SLK3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipping. 8)
$65.95 shipped from ZipZoomFly.com I just bought one :)

Is that a duct for the CPU exhaust on the side there? I wonder how well it will work.

Right now I have an Antec SX1030b with 2 - 80mm panaflo L1A's (one exhaust and one on a zalman bracket to cool my video card) and a 92mm panaflo M1A CPU fan. All with fanmates directly attached to the fans all tidy like.

I am moving to two 120mm Nexus fans in this new box and will probably use one of the 80mm panaflo fans for my CPU. The 92mm M1A makes a fair amount of noise even with a fanmate.

Also just picked up a Super Silencer 400 at Microcenter a week or two ago for $80 plus a $20 mail in rebate! That was cheaper than even buying online.

Put the hard drive in a SmartDrive 2002 copper as well. The system is so quiet now I am probably crazy for springing for another case but now I can just use this case for another system :)

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Post by teknerd » Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:11 pm

just ordered mine from zip zoom fly for ~61. Can't wait to throw my extra machine into a quiet case.

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Re: SLK-3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipp

Post by Ralf Hutter » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:28 am

Slipstream wrote: Is that a duct for the CPU exhaust on the side there? I wonder how well it will work.
Yes, it's a CPU cooling duct. It's a Intel "requirement" that they have been pushing since the P4 3.06 was released. They feel a need for a source of cool air for their warmer-running 3+ GHz P4 processors so have instituted this duct as part of what they call a "Thermally Advantaged Chassis".

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Re: SLK-3000B is available at NewEgg for $71 including shipp

Post by acaurora » Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:48 am

Ralf Hutter wrote:
Slipstream wrote: Is that a duct for the CPU exhaust on the side there? I wonder how well it will work.
Yes, it's a CPU cooling duct. It's a Intel "requirement" that they have been pushing since the P4 3.06 was released. They feel a need for a source of cool air for their warmer-running 3+ GHz P4 processors so have instituted this duct as part of what they call a "Thermally Advantaged Chassis".
"Thermally Advantaged Chassis", aka, "The Only Way To Keep It Reasonably Cool with Air Cooling" ;P

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Post by josephclemente » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:11 pm

Slipstream wrote:Is that a duct for the CPU exhaust on the side there? I wonder how well it will work.
The duct should work very well if it is positioned over the CPU. The custom duct I made for my Coolermaster Wave Master allows me to run my 3.0C with a fanless Zalman 7000Cu.

But a side duct requires the rest of your components to be very quiet. Hard drive noise can easily spill through this duct. I highly recommend suspension and a good (noise-wise) hard drive.

Also, the CPU fan should be running very slowly. The duct will make a loud CPU fan really loud.

Finally, the best position for a left-side-ducted computer is on your left side. Any noise leakage will be facing away from you, like rear exhaust.

Don't get me wrong - the side duct is the best thing I've done to my computer and has allowed me to make it VERY quiet - I love it! But in the wrong hands, a side-duct can be a terrible thing and better off blocked.

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Post by JimK » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:34 pm

I've gone back and reread the AMB & BQE reviews and the threads about them but I wonder how the noise level of the HDDs compares. I know for the ultimate answer of suspending drives the AMB/3000-B are much easier to work with than the BQE.

But how does the stock AMB/3000-B system compare to Ralf's "Sorbothane on the sled" method? I'm going to stick a Raptor in there along with another large drive.

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Post by Sizzle » Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:01 pm

Mine came Friday. I like the case, not as fancy as my Lian Li, but more practicle I think.

I bought a Acoustipack BQE precut kit for it. I am still mulling over the using the cpu air duct. Right now I just took of the duct and put the acoustpack over it. I was thinking about cutting out the space for it and putting the duct back on. Maybe I will wait and see what my temps are before I do this.

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Post by Cams » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:48 pm

Sizzle wrote:I bought a Acoustipack BQE precut kit for it. I am still mulling over the using the cpu air duct. Right now I just took of the duct and put the acoustpack over it. I was thinking about cutting out the space for it and putting the duct back on. Maybe I will wait and see what my temps are before I do this.
I'd be keen to hear how that works out. I'm ordering one of these cases as well, probably with the BQE precut pack.

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Post by xxkrnxstylezxx » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:34 pm

Will a Zalman CNPS7000b-cu fit with that duct?

Also, will the Zalman ZM-MFC1 Fan controller fit within the door?

If so...i'll probably buy this

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CPU duct

Post by as530 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:42 am

Hi, am planning on getting a nforce4 mobo, A64 3000+ and Thermalright XP-90 with Vantec Stealth 92mm fan - will the XP-90+ fan fit under the CPU duct? it looks pretty long to me on that photo......

anyway good to know it's removable if you don't want it / it doesn't fit

Also, where can i buy the 3000B in the UK, and when? Antecrep?

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Re: CPU duct

Post by Cams » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:10 am

as530 wrote:Also, where can i buy the 3000B in the UK, and when? Antecrep?
I just heard from kustompcs.co.uk that they will have the 3000B in stock at the beginning of January for £39 incl. VAT.

I've got one reserved!

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Post by as530 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:13 am

wicked, thank you so much Cams!

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Post by Sizzle » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:21 am

anyway good to know it's removable if you don't want it / it doesn't fit
It is removable. It is two pieces one that is attatched to the case and one adjustable piece. So I don't think there will be fit problems.
I'd be keen to hear how that works out. I'm ordering one of these cases as well, probably with the BQE precut pack.
Fit in well. I trimmed a little off the top of the piece that goes on the back wall of the case to accomodate the trim I have there (I cut out the fan grill). This stuff is heavy, after I get my PSU in there, it is going to weigh a ton.

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Post by xxkrnxstylezxx » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:51 am

Can anyone tell me if a fan controller would fit on the Drive Bay Door?

Which would be better thermally/acoustically, this or Silverstone TJ06....

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Post by Slipstream » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:21 am

Mine arrived last week and I have almost finished working on it.

I used the Acoustipack Deluxe kit and left holes for the CPU duct & lower side vent. On the floor I took out the lower drive cages and removed the rivets that hold the bottom attachment for the cage. I don't have any use for the cage there so it allowed for one sheet of acoustipack all the way across the bottom.

The Western Digital hard drive in a SmartDrive 2002c still made a bit of high pitched whine until I put the Acoustipack on the inside of the case door. Now it is inaudible.

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Post by silverback » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:08 am

Is this a modified 2650? a 2650 with a different drive cage and door rather?

or is there a difference in build quality from the 2650->3000

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Post by jimmyfergus » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:27 am

silverback wrote:Is this a modified 2650? a 2650 with a different drive cage and door rather?

or is there a difference in build quality from the 2650->3000
Er, no, it's a modified 3700 I believe. Arguably a combination of the best of the 3700 AMB and BQE, without a PSU.

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Post by Ralf Hutter » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:28 am

silverback wrote:Is this a modified 2650? a 2650 with a different drive cage and door rather?

or is there a difference in build quality from the 2650->3000
No, it's a 3700xxx chassis. It has the fan grills of the BQE and the removable HDD cage of the AMB. The rest of the case is normal 3700xxx w/o a PSU.

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Post by Edward Ng » Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:06 pm

They're not the same; the 3000B has the same interior layout as Tsunami Dream and a different duct from SLK2650-BQE. Also, the 3000B has a stamped opening lower down on the side panel that isn't present on SLK2650-BQE. The 5.25" bay rail system is inferior to SLK2650-BQE's. SLK1650 is clearly inferior to any of the mentioned cases (SLK3700-BQE/-AMB, SLK2650-BQE, SLK3000B).

-Ed

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Post by teknerd » Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:38 pm

I just finished building my system in my 3000b and i love it. In additon to being the great quality that antec is, there is enough space to run cables behind the motherboard tray (great for a neat freak like me).

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Post by mco_chris » Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:53 pm

Slipstream wrote:The Western Digital hard drive in a SmartDrive 2002c still made a bit of high pitched whine until I put the Acoustipack on the inside of the case door. Now it is inaudible.
Congratulations! Which WD drive do you have? Did the drive temp go up much?

I’m thinking of putting a Raptor in my SmartDrive. I’m concerned that the SmartDrive won’t be able to quiet it down enough. Or maybe the Raptor is too hot for the SmartDrive.

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