Antec P190 only please!

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:41 am

Matbe have a picture of it here, and some info. 2 x 140 mm fans on the top, and a 200 mm fan on the side. Supports E-ATX.

Babelfish translation:

The Antec manufacturer has just presented two new rather awaited cases: P190 which succeeds P180 and Nine Hundred, a case intended for the players who takes the changing of Super LanBoy.

The case Antec P190 always turned towards the performance clearly announces the color concerning the evolution of the components. It will have two sites for food ATX and will be equipped besides with the new food Antec Neo-Link 1 200 Watts. The latter in is made the association of two food: one of 650 Watts and the other of 550 Watts. It will surely support the mother charts with the format Extended ATX (E-ATX) in preparation for the nearest exit of the mother charts bi-processors compatible with platform AMD 4X4. A advanced system of management of the various cables to improve circulation of air will be also of the part and finally, the case will embark 2 ventilators of 140 mm on the top and a ventilator of 200 mm on the side. The side panels will be always composed of a double layer as well as possible to isolate the noises emitted by the case.

It will be necessary to await the beginning of December to buy this new model at a price which remains still unknown.

It looks like there are two versions, one without PSU's, and one with two PSU's.

There's already a P190 thread, but it has gone offtopic only discussing Antec 900, thanks to Shadowknight.

Tzupy · Post by **Tzupy** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:40 am

Where are the two PSUs (probably TruePower Trio?) placed, on the bottom of the case?
My concept of a two PSUs setup was like that, with one exhausting towards the back of the case and the other to the right side of the case.

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:57 am

I think we will see more pictures at Matbe within a week.
Or maybe MikeC have some info to share?

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:17 am

I am not interested in this case at all.

This seems to be designed for extreme cooling and NOT for silence, having a huge hole on the side and top is not a great idea for keeping the noise in, on the plus side, the HDD area will still be covered.

Andy

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:44 am

Ok, we don't even know yet how it looks like inside, but I have an idea of what to do if the PSU bays are placed side by side. If you can live with only using one PSU, you can put a HD + enclosure in the other bay, suspended and cooled. An enclosure may be too long, but given that the P180 fits a 183 mm P500 it could be possible. Now where in this forum did I read about a short enclosure....

vitaminc · Post by **vitaminc** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:48 am

interesting case, but personally i prefer a refrigerator look instead of a neon light box

nici · Post by **nici** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:51 am

vitaminc wrote:Interesting case, but personally i prefer a refrigerator look instead of a neon light box

Thats the 900, this is the P190 which seems to look pretty much like a P180 only longer.

vitaminc · Post by **vitaminc** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:59 am

nici wrote:
vitaminc wrote:Interesting case, but personally i prefer a refrigerator look instead of a neon light box
Thats the 900, this is the P190 which seems to look pretty much like a P180 only longer.

Not interested in running AMD's 4x4 (a rebrand of 2 socket opteron) or any EATX server motherboards.

Don't see any need to go P190.

Lenny-gfx · Post by **Lenny-gfx** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:56 am

I get sexually excited every time i see a P180B.
But the P190 just scares me off and make me think: why ?

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:13 am

*shakes head* ...

Why Antec? Why?...

Dirty-Harry · Post by **Dirty-Harry** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:16 am

Lenny-gfx wrote:I get sexually excited every time i see a P180B.
But the P190 just scares me off and make me think: why ?

I hope you don't keep your P180 in your bedroom.. err... nevermind, I don't want to know.

zoob · Post by **zoob** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:16 am

P190 looks like a nice candidate for internal water cooling (mount a 2x120 rad up in the top). Hopefully they'll offer versions with a solid side panel.

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:22 am

Is it so hard to see why? They made it for people who have hot running EATX systems with many components. My guess is that some people over at 2cpu.com will be very happy over this one.

A lot of people seems to be disappointed, but I really can't see why. Do you think that everything that Antec does must be done for SPCR-people? Or is it just that you were dreaming of a P180 successor?

nici · Post by **nici** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:37 am

If you still haven't got it, this is not for us, it is for users who need E-ATX and probably a shitload of drives. Antec is not an SPCR exclusive

And why are people disappointed? Is it normal to be disappointed when you don't feel attracted to every new antec case or something?

So i really have no trouble whatsoever understanding "why?", not everyone is a silence enthuasist.

mbetea · Post by **mbetea** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:47 am

As long as the keep p180b in production for a bit, I don't mind. I'll be looking to put another system together with that case soon. I just don't want to see the p180b suddenly go out of stock, then discontinued.

Post by **Rusty075** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:49 am

Speak for yourselves....I am excited by the idea of this case. I can't say if I'm actually excited by the case or not since so much hinges on the details. I've never heard an Antec 140mm or 200mm fan, so it's a bit early to pass judgements.

But if those fans can run really slowly it might be very interesting. Duct your Ninja to the 140's on top, use the 200 to keep you Condor's Sli cool, and spec two low-wattage effiecient PSU's. One for the CPU, one for the GPU...might end up being quieter and more efficient to run a pair of 300 watt PSU's, each at 30% load than a 600watt is at 30%. (or a pair of 300watt fanless' )

Or it could be a steaming pile of dog doo....time will tell.

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:54 am

But if the fans suck, good luck in replacing them.

floffe · Post by **floffe** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:01 am

I've heard good stuff about the 140mm Yate Loons, that should at least take care of the top ones. Silencio carries them, dunno about other places.

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:17 am

A lot of people seem to be mentioning HOT E-ATX systems, have they seen the Titan.??? Its not perfect, but it has been designed for Server use, I have one at work, its a great case, and keeps the X2 3800+ and 5 320GB Seagate 7200.10's very cool with 2 extra 92mm fans.

Even 2 Opterons wont have any problem being cooled in the Titan, and it comes with a 550Watt PSU.

I can only see that this case is being designed specifically for AMD's 4x4, and 2 or more very hot GPU's, I cant see many SPCR'ers buing this case, unless they are planning a watercooling setup, which would be superb in this case.

Andy

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:20 pm

Rusty075 wrote:But if those fans can run really slowly it might be very interesting. Duct your Ninja to the 140's on top,

Or, duct your two Ninjas to one 140 mm fan each.

andyb wrote:I can only see that this case is being designed specifically for AMD's 4x4, and 2 or more very hot GPU's

Why not Xeons or Opterons? This could be the perfect workstation case.

vitaminc · Post by **vitaminc** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:09 pm

Mats wrote:Why not Xeons or Opterons? This could be the perfect workstation case.

But but but...

Mac workstation just looks so much better.

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:28 pm

vitaminc wrote:Mac workstation just looks so much better.

Well that's your opinion. Sure, the Macs looks really good, but that won't help a person, or company, who wants to assemble their own system. It's quite rare to see a case manufacturer paying attention to products like this one.

vitaminc: Are you ok? Why all these sad

faces?
First you were sad because you didn't feel the need to buy the P190, and then you were sad because the Mac pro looks so much better?

Having a bad day?

andyb · Post by **andyb** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:56 pm

Xeon or Opteron workstations would be better off in the P190 than most other cases, especially if they used a pair of Condors on their SLI Quadro setup (one reversed wing), that huge fan on the side wouldnt need to spin fast.

A pair of Ninjas, a pair of Condors, no 200mm fan, and a pair of 140mm fans on low mixed with some interesting ducting would be great, but just as the review of the Condor proved, the PSU(s) would make far more noise than anything else, no matter how careful the component choice is. As a workstation, this case would be quieter than the competition, but far from silent.

Which brings me back to my original point, this case is obviously not designed for silence, its designed for extreme cooling.

Andy

JazzJackRabbit · Post by **JazzJackRabbit** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:25 pm

Ehmmm.... P190 may cope very well with really hot dual CPU/SLI videocards, and do it much better than other cases, but alas, I'm not interested in that. And I doubt any of the SPCR'ers will be interested in it as well. Two nexus'es undervolted to 6-7volts keep both my CPU and videocard within reasonable temperatures. My HDD is cooled by PSU drawing air over it. P190 introduces better cooling, but, I, as well as most spcr'ers don't need it. However, that additional cooling comes at increased noise since noise can now escape more easily from the case. And as someone mentioned, good luck finding 140mm fans...

Overall, I'd rather go for P180B, that's one sexy looking beast for sure... P190...? meh...

Lenny-gfx · Post by **Lenny-gfx** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:02 pm

Dirty-Harry wrote:I hope you don't keep your P180 in your bedroom.. err... nevermind, I don't want to know.

I dont wanna know what you do with your P180b when i see your name

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With the P190, the whole idea of "clean" is going away.
The elevation in the side panel is ugly, and the hole for the fan is huge and disturbs the clean look.
Still thinking of this fan is going to suck or push.

The 2 top-fans look ok, but the side panel is just worse. Anyway thats still my opinion.

Bluefront · Post by **Bluefront** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:11 am

Humm.....do I see a warp in the front door of that P190?

nici · Post by **nici** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:16 am

Ah come on, that would be great f you wanted a dual CPU+SLi setup, Ninjas, Condors, and two passive PSUs. Would stay nice and cool, and be decently quiet.

Lenny-gfx · Post by **Lenny-gfx** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:54 am

nici wrote:Ah come on, that would be great f you wanted a dual CPU+SLi setup, Ninjas, Condors, and two passive PSUs. Would stay nice and cool, and be decently quiet.

If you have that ammount of money you must get a SilverStone TJ07:

Look at the bottom, you have space for 2 psu's.

To bad the Antec P190 has standard PSU's including. But im interesting in the Cable management system.

vitaminc · Post by **vitaminc** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:19 am

mats. its been a long week.

well, p190 maybe nice for the workstations, but its 'design' are more or less the same as p180. antec should do a better job imo.

nici · Post by **nici** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:56 am

The TJ07 is nice, but i am pretty sure the P190 would allow a cooler and more quiet setup. No doubt the TJ07 is the more beautiful case of the two, but for functionality my guess is that the antec is better. I obviously don't have any experience with the P190 though..