Problems with Latest SMP
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Problems with Latest SMP
I attempted to download the latest SMP version (why did mine expire now and not at the beginning of the month like normal people?). Curl did not seem to complete, and hance TAR XZF gives me a code of 1.
I tried to use WGET, that clearly tells me error 404, not found. Tried both the SMP and the version 6 file, as both .tar and .tgz, to no avail.
Tried going to Standford forms, its out to lunch as well.
I tried to use WGET, that clearly tells me error 404, not found. Tried both the SMP and the version 6 file, as both .tar and .tgz, to no avail.
Tried going to Standford forms, its out to lunch as well.
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You know this damn thing runs OK when it works, but when intervention is required it sucks.
I got the thing downloaded and extracted. It promplty does a UNKNOWN_ERROR corestatus 79 and deletes my current WU.
It's telling core A1 is for 1 node while the WU was 4 nodes.
(*&)(*YPOIUH {O&^(*{E CB240B9N 8U69BV= 9UN30=9B768J= V6B`B1N I37698-0TR]B4N93-0=2I7N8] -BM9IBV]-6I,7UN3-N] B,MI[TPO768 9][PO5EB67M]4N-0765I2[B0P=6M5Q O.{A)#_&( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not download a single, why is it running as a single?
I got the thing downloaded and extracted. It promplty does a UNKNOWN_ERROR corestatus 79 and deletes my current WU.
It's telling core A1 is for 1 node while the WU was 4 nodes.
(*&)(*YPOIUH {O&^(*{E CB240B9N 8U69BV= 9UN30=9B768J= V6B`B1N I37698-0TR]B4N93-0=2I7N8] -BM9IBV]-6I,7UN3-N] B,MI[TPO768 9][PO5EB67M]4N-0765I2[B0P=6M5Q O.{A)#_&( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not download a single, why is it running as a single?
It is now a common or unified or something like that client.
You need to add -smp flag. Also, as I warned in another thread, you also want to do a -configonly because the work unit size prompt changed, it was 2 sizes, now it is three. You want to pick the biggest one if you want to continue getting the nice 1760 point work units.
You need to add -smp flag. Also, as I warned in another thread, you also want to do a -configonly because the work unit size prompt changed, it was 2 sizes, now it is three. You want to pick the biggest one if you want to continue getting the nice 1760 point work units.
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That's pure B/S.
1. It's not listed on Stanford's own "detailed instructions".
2. If I can set "BIG", memory usage, or advanced methods, through a question I can SMP through a question.
3. If other versions don't SMP then the version that does SMP should have "SMP" in both it's name and the messages it generates. One shouldn't have to pull up a system monitor to see if things are corrent.
Its pretty obvious, and I speak with 25 years of programming experience, that many of these people seem pretty clueless about how to write an interactive program.
I had to use FISHPro last week, another program written apparently by programmers that live by themselves on secluded islands.
The really ironic thing about failing such basic human communication functions is where I have worked the departments that did the actual testing, tested these seemingly unimportant aspects first, as opposed to these masterminds who don't address them at all.
I think I have right to be ticked off when I lose both time and money because some alledged know-it-all was clueless.
1. It's not listed on Stanford's own "detailed instructions".
2. If I can set "BIG", memory usage, or advanced methods, through a question I can SMP through a question.
3. If other versions don't SMP then the version that does SMP should have "SMP" in both it's name and the messages it generates. One shouldn't have to pull up a system monitor to see if things are corrent.
Its pretty obvious, and I speak with 25 years of programming experience, that many of these people seem pretty clueless about how to write an interactive program.
I had to use FISHPro last week, another program written apparently by programmers that live by themselves on secluded islands.
The really ironic thing about failing such basic human communication functions is where I have worked the departments that did the actual testing, tested these seemingly unimportant aspects first, as opposed to these masterminds who don't address them at all.
I think I have right to be ticked off when I lose both time and money because some alledged know-it-all was clueless.
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I just use finstall and it all goes smoothly...
A fairly usefull guide for finstall is available here and it's written for newbies, it and I get along just fine.
Pete
A fairly usefull guide for finstall is available here and it's written for newbies, it and I get along just fine.
Pete
Hey Aristide1,
I know how you feel. Maybe young man, it is my 1 long year of experience more than you and more likely paranoia, that makes me only make updates between work units.
When I first saw the first line of your message
When they have an army of volunteers making this work, they really should have thought a lot more about backwards compatibility and providing accurate information. One thing that I have learned over the years is that you don't abuse/confuse/frustrate free help or customers. You appreciate them, and they could be gone tomorrow.
I know how you feel. Maybe young man, it is my 1 long year of experience more than you and more likely paranoia, that makes me only make updates between work units.
When I first saw the first line of your message
I wondered what I said wrong (not that we don't disagree frequently in the political threads). I was relieved that it seemed to be directed at the folding update and lack of info (including not updating the instructions, so I re-downloaded the same client I had the first time) and lack of doing a decent job in making it backwards compatible.That's pure B/S.
When they have an army of volunteers making this work, they really should have thought a lot more about backwards compatibility and providing accurate information. One thing that I have learned over the years is that you don't abuse/confuse/frustrate free help or customers. You appreciate them, and they could be gone tomorrow.
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VanWaGuy,
Nothing I said was meant or directed at you.
I went over to Stanford's forums last night and made heavy use of the word "oblivious."
Nothing I said was meant or directed at you.
What a concept!backwards compatibility
I suspect a little of both.Maybe young man, it is my 1 long year of experience more than you and more likely paranoia, that makes me only make updates between work units.
I went over to Stanford's forums last night and made heavy use of the word "oblivious."
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Oh man I don't believe this is happening again.
I updated my BIOS and restarted my system. I had left the LAN connection unplugged. I start FAH and I got a communications error. Needless to say I lost that unit. I started another one, but that one was a whopping 216 pointer. 40 hours for next to nothing.
Do I need to start FAH6 with the -SMP flag each and every time? That seems ridiculous to me. On top of that I restarted with -SMP and it's still folding with one core. me bummed.
Anyway I can change the expiration date on the FAH5 module? This one is nothing but trouble.
Edited-I restarted with -smp again and 16 programs started, haha. But with a restart there are 4 .exe's and only one is getting any CPU.
Is there some chance that ran out of SMP WU's for now?
A
I updated my BIOS and restarted my system. I had left the LAN connection unplugged. I start FAH and I got a communications error. Needless to say I lost that unit. I started another one, but that one was a whopping 216 pointer. 40 hours for next to nothing.
Do I need to start FAH6 with the -SMP flag each and every time? That seems ridiculous to me. On top of that I restarted with -SMP and it's still folding with one core. me bummed.
Anyway I can change the expiration date on the FAH5 module? This one is nothing but trouble.
Edited-I restarted with -smp again and 16 programs started, haha. But with a restart there are 4 .exe's and only one is getting any CPU.
Is there some chance that ran out of SMP WU's for now?
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Well I complained over at the FAH forums, but because very few people do that they feel like I am very stupid. So much for that.avi_dan wrote:I had all the problems you describe. I eventually gave up and started folding with the windows SMP client.
I used to shun the Win SMP client because there were some crappy WU for it; but lately all the WU are 1760 pts.
You may want to consider it.
Avi
Avi, you're suggesting I give more money to MS. That's a tough one.