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Which car is for you?

Audi A6
2
5%
BMW 5-series
12
28%
Citroen C6
4
9%
Jaguar S-type
0
No votes
Mercedes E-class
1
2%
Saab 9-5
4
9%
Volvo S80
1
2%
Other
19
44%
 
Total votes: 43

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Post by Puffi » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:50 am

i'm thinking about big sedans... so which would u like for yourself? and i dont mean "which is cuulest", i mean which would u really consider buying if u wanted a sedan. obviously i'd like to know your reasons as well.

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Post by qviri » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:54 am

C6 because it's so damned sexy.
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Post by NyteOwl » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:39 pm

We obviously have different definitions about what constitutes a "large" sedan :D
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Post by Puffi » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:16 pm

well some on the list are larger than others... the huge LUXURY sedans are in a class of their own and cost about double the ones on this list... the ones here should still be considered big i think, because all the brands carry smaller sedans also... like the BMW 5-series isn't that big, but it's still bigger than the 3-series that competes with volvo's S40 and audi's A4 in stead of S80 and A6... and so on.

but i guess big's relative... i live in finland, and really didn't even consider the huge american cars. we have short roads and bad weather, which they dont like so much.

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Post by shleepy » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:26 pm

Personally, I would go with something Japanese. In the US, at least, they're much cheaper, more reliable, and have better specs. If you want a luxury one, then why not a Lexus? :)

Out of those options, though, I voted for the Beemer. Even as a person who will probably stick to Japanese cars for a while, I've always wanted a late-90's 5-series, hehe.

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Post by spookmineer » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:03 pm

The prices vary too much: the Saab and Volvo are the cheapest, about € 38,000.
The A6 and BMW 5 are about € 45,000.
C6 and Mercedes are about € 52,000.

The Jaguar S is about a whopping € 60,000, but the newer model looks really good. The XF for € 68,000. That's € 30,000 more than the Saab or the Volvo...
I think I'll stick to a second hand Toyota.

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Post by dragmor » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:24 pm

spookmineer wrote:The Jaguar S is about a whopping € 60,000, but the newer model looks really good. The XF for € 68,000.
Get the XF over the S, its worth it.

Or just buy a proper sports car for the same money. Buy the Lotus Elise, you know you want it.

Seriously though if your going to go big sedan then look 2nd hand, people are ditching these big cars for cheap. In Oz you can get a 2003 V8 Jag S class for ~20k.

If your going to buy new then just buy the small/medium hatch back. A four door Honda Jazz (Fit in USA) does everything you want and uses little fuel. Theres even a 7 seater version in Japan that is a little but longer ~5" but no boot when in 7 seat mode.

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Post by aristide1 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:40 am

Has MB recovered from their lapse in quality? Doesn't matter, too expensive to fix any German cars. The E Class is solid, but the C Class? :roll:

Mercedes has "paint options" over $1500 US. Paint options? I'll pay something extra for clear coat, otherwise paint on cars is on occasion standard equipment.

I'll take any Lexus, that way I determine if/when I have to go back to the dealer. Also - Your car is not faster than a Lexus when it's up on a lift.
Puffi wrote:...but i guess big's relative... i live in finland, and really didn't even consider the huge american cars. we have short roads and bad weather, which they dont like so much.
That's why God invented Vredestein tires. 8)
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Post by Titus » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:39 am

Citroen! Unfortunately, you'll have to pay a driver to take you places if you don't want to look silly in it. Unless you attach rocket launchers and such like nonsense to it. Then you still look silly, but the many kilotons of ordinance will shut the critics up. :D

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Post by NyteOwl » Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:17 pm

If I had to stay with your brands and general sizes based on what I've had an opportunity to see in person and/or drive I'll take an Audi S8 - but only if someone else wants to pay for it :D
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Post by Sizzle » Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:14 pm

I'd rather have a Dodge Charger SRT8. I can't realistically afford most of those (though the Charter SRT8 is probably $40K before discounts). I can put the kids in the Charger and it's still got a 400+ HP.
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Post by spookmineer » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:43 pm

Very, *very* politicly incorrect but the Audi S8 V10... just listen to the sound of the same engine of a Lamborghini Gallardo...

I like that it is a "sleeper", no one will suspect anything big or grand - it just looks like a big business car, a sedan.... Until you press the gas more than an inch, I guess.

Or an Audo W12 (come on, if Jason Statham is driving one it can't be all bad, it's got to be cool) - in electronic version.

I know I've grown up a bit (the energy savings really work: 2 km per liter more! - 10 to 15 % less fuel consumption), but still I'm a kid at heart, and I love Top Gear.... .. .

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Post by NyteOwl » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:57 am

I like the Charger, though the SRT might be overkill. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new Challenger is going to be like.
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Post by fastturtle » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:47 pm

Whine: No Bently on the list.

That's what I want because not only does it have plenty of power, I can also get the armour security kit for it.
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Post by nici » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:02 pm

Out of those i´d have the C6. It´s just so much more interesting than the other cars. I´ve driven this years models of the A6 and V70, which is essentially a S80 estate. Also been a passenger in 9-5s quite a lot, and also a bit in a new C5 with the fancy suspension. And several taxis, so 5-series and E-class are also somewhat familiar. The E-class just isn't as good as it should be, and i would rather have the 5.

Volvo has the most comfortable seats, and the C5 with upgraded seats is second and Saab is probably third. The sport seats in the A6 were too hard but nice otherwise. MB has the worst seats, BMW sport seats are good, the stock ones are like flat benches just like MB.

And the only modern Mopar "muscle-car" that's available here is the 300C, no Charger or Challeger. No Camaro or Mustang for that matter either, or you can get the Mustang imported but it costs somewhere around 75.000€. The 300C SRT8 is around 100.000€ which quite a lot to be honest.

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Post by m0002a » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:22 am

nici wrote:Out of those i´d have the C6.
So are you going to purchase one, or is this a fantasy thread?

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Post by nici » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:10 am

Fantasy thread. Im not looking for a big sedan, more in the lines of A3, 118 3-door hatches... The C6 is probably the best choice if looking for a relaxing, quiet and smooth car, and probably the worst if looking for performance and sharp handling. It's most likely also the worst in terms of depreciation. I might be silly enough to choose it over an A6 for example, but then again i have never claimed to be an especially rational person. :wink:

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Post by aristide1 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:38 pm

spookmineer wrote:Very, *very* politicly incorrect but the Audi S8 V10... just listen to the sound of the same engine of a Lamborghini Gallardo...

I like that it is a "sleeper", no one will suspect anything big or grand - it just looks like a big business car, a sedan.... Until you press the gas more than an inch, I guess.
People today are anti-sleeper, as in bling. Loud and obnoxious is the way to be, ask any harley rider.

Does Citroen still use the hydraulic suspension?
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Post by nici » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:53 pm

Yes the fancy suspension is available on the C5 and C6. Standard on the C6 and an option on the C5 i believe. And a very nice system it is, i might add.

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Post by KlaymenDK » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:13 pm

Of the ones posted, I would choose the SAAB.

Of the ones not posted, I would choose a 1956 Chevy Nomad, or a Jaguar E-type if it's gotta be a little newer. :wink:

All the modern "big sedans", esp. Beamers and Porsches, can go take a swim in the river for all I care.
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Post by Emyr » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:44 am

Yes, the C6 will depreciate.

The aswer is to buy the second hand ones cheap :D
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