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How do *you* pronounce "Kaze"?

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:05 am
by KayDat
So it occured to me, that the reason why Scythe had all these Japanese names for their products is because it is a Japanese company.
Now names like "Kabuto" and "Mugen" may be pronounced somewhat differently in English to Japanese, the structure is still mostly the same. But what about "Kaze"? The "vowel-consonant-E" rule in English completely changes the way you'd pronounce the word. So, how do you pronounce "Kaze"?

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:49 am
by MikeC
Same as in kamikaze

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:13 am
by dhanson865
indeed

ka ze

two syllables, I stress the first slightly and the second is closely spaced with a smooth transition and a softer pronunciation.

the first a little softer than if someone from New Jersey says Car since some people from around there stress beginning consonant and drop the r sound. I can't think of a good reason to get someone from jersey to make the zee sound.

But while I'm thinking about the east coast someone go to Pat's or Geno's for me and bring me a proper Philly. Cheese Whiz, Provolone, or Mozzarella, You just can't get a good one around here without hitting a full fledged sit down restaurant where you have no idea who made it or how good it'll be this time. It's totally hit or miss.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:22 am
by Scoop
Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:43 am
by fwiffo
I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:02 am
by dhanson865
Scoop wrote:Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8
actually in the video he says it more like ka zay than ka zee.

Even I say it with short syllables so if you saw something in my prior post that made you think I was drawing out the pronunciation it was just me trying to show more the tone than the length. Many short words/syllables allow for multiple pronunciations. Adding extra letters makes it more obvious to some what you mean when you can't use a you tube video to get the point across.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:15 am
by KayDat
Well yeah, ultimately, it's hard to spell out the word in English, because it's a Japanese word. "ã

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:38 am
by ilovejedd
[quote="KayDat"]Well yeah, ultimately, it's hard to spell out the word in English, because it's a Japanese word. "ã

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:11 pm
by KayDat
Yes, I'm Chinese and like watching anime too, doesn't make my opinion or vote any less valid. =] Just means you have a little more insight into the language. And while "風" is how it's written, "ã

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 pm
by ame
never had to say this word

:lol:

EDIT
Kah Zeh - means "like this" in my laguage (hebrew)


EDIT2:

Can someone plaese tell me how to pronounce scythe?

Me and a freind are constantly in disagreement on this one.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:11 pm
by alphabetbackward
The ze part is more like "eh" than "ee".

So I'd say something like kah-zeh.

Regardless, I still pronounce karaoke, "care-ee-o-kee" and not how Zapp Brannigan said it in Futurama.

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:23 pm
by KayDat
I pronounce Scythe like "ssigh-th", with a bit of a sliding "ss" sound for the "sc".

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:47 am
by aristide1
I let other people pronounce it for me. :mrgreen:

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:52 am
by judge56988
Here in England, "carzy" is slang for a toilet, so if I ever need to say Scythe Kaze, which I probably won't, I think I'll stick with kaze (to rhyme with haze or maze).

Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:21 am
by Scoop
dhanson865 wrote:
Scoop wrote:Both syllables are short. The first syllable isn't a long kah but short, just like ze in terms on length. How you explain how to pronounce Japanese 'ka' and "ze" in English is beyond me. :D

What is a good example.... well watch this, there's plenty of 'kaze' in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD1MLRapv8
actually in the video he says it more like ka zay than ka zee.

Even I say it with short syllables so if you saw something in my prior post that made you think I was drawing out the pronunciation it was just me trying to show more the tone than the length. Many short words/syllables allow for multiple pronunciations. Adding extra letters makes it more obvious to some what you mean when you can't use a you tube video to get the point across.
I probably just looked at the poll options where it says 'kah-ze'. I actually voted 'other' because even though close, that's not correct either :)

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:43 am
by thejamppa
Japanese and Finnish languange both construct main bi-syllabels / bi-syllabic construction and both languange tend to pronounce syllabels and words as they are written, unlike English for isntant.

So I would pronounce it: Kaze. Combining English words Scythe and japanese word Kaze intends to make my tongue bit tied up, due suddenly changing pronounciation from one to another. I'd probably pronounce it Saith Kaze... Theory easy but in practise I might bite my tongue... again :D

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:11 pm
by JamieG
kah-zeh is how I would pronounce it - the influence of some high school Japanese.

Re: How do *you* pronounce "Kaze"?

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:15 pm
by Fayd
KayDat wrote:So it occured to me, that the reason why Scythe had all these Japanese names for their products is because it is a Japanese company.
Now names like "Kabuto" and "Mugen" may be pronounced somewhat differently in English to Japanese, the structure is still mostly the same. But what about "Kaze"? The "vowel-consonant-E" rule in English completely changes the way you'd pronounce the word. So, how do you pronounce "Kaze"?
kah zay

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:16 pm
by Fayd
JamieG wrote:kah-zeh is how I would pronounce it - the influence of some high school Japanese.
for me, it's the influence of an unhealthy obsession with anime and manga.

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:20 pm
by Fayd
ame wrote:never had to say this word

:lol:

EDIT
Kah Zeh - means "like this" in my laguage (hebrew)


EDIT2:

Can someone plaese tell me how to pronounce scythe?

Me and a freind are constantly in disagreement on this one.
easier solution would be to google it in a dictionary or wiktionary, and listen to the sound clip.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:31 pm
by alleycat
fwiffo wrote:I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.
I know it's OT, but since someone has mentioned it, I find it annoying how people pronounce "Nike" as nigh-key. Where does this come from? Just as in the name "Mike", in English the function of the "e" at the end is to modify the "i" into a long vowel, and is itself not pronounced (the "vowel-consonant-E" rule referred to by the OP). To pronounce the "e" separately, it can no longer function as a vowel modifier. It's either one or the other, not both simultaneously.

I believe the name "Nike" is in reference to Greek mythology, however the Greek pronunciation would sound more like nee-kay. The nigh-key pronunciation is mangled rubbish, neither English nor Greek. Applying the same inconsistencies to "kaze", we'd end up with kay-zee (rhymes with "crazy" :wink: ).

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:31 pm
by colm
judge56988 wrote:Here in England, "carzy" is slang for a toilet, so if I ever need to say Scythe Kaze, which I probably won't, I think I'll stick with kaze (to rhyme with haze or maze).
me too.
if to mention association with japanese, I change the vote to kah zee...

a dialect thing.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:34 pm
by merlin
fwiffo wrote:I'm surprised anyone actually pronounces it with one syllable. That's like pronouncing Nike like Mike.
Lol I just noticed your username. We have a spathi on board who likes silence! That totally makes sense because that means you aren't hearing scary aliens invading you...only ones sneaking up on you ;)