Got My Passive Gigabyte Geforce 6800 NU - WOW & WOOPS!

They make noise, too.

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Post by luminous » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:14 pm

I'm wondering what would happen if Gigabytes cooler was used on a GT model. From the results that I have seen it sounds like this is a feasible option.

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Post by rpsgc » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:18 pm

luminous wrote:I'm wondering what would happen if Gigabytes cooler was used on a GT model. From the results that I have seen it sounds like this is a feasible option.
Like this? :?

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Post by luminous » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:23 pm

I'm confused. I thought the whole point of this cooler was that it was fanless. The cooler in the link you have shown seems to have a dirty great fan in the middle of it!!

I know I'm missing something, I have to be :)

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Post by rpsgc » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:33 pm

luminous wrote:I'm confused. I thought the whole point of this cooler was that it was fanless. The cooler in the link you have shown seems to have a dirty great fan in the middle of it!!

I know I'm missing something, I have to be :)
The GT has a fan, the NU doesn't. Don't ask me why :?:

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Post by EasyRaider » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:43 pm

rpsgc wrote: The GT has a fan, the NU doesn't. Don't ask me why :?:
Because the GT puts out more heat perhaps?

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Post by davidstone28 » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:02 pm

Does anyone know if the passive version fits into a shuttle?

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Post by Storm » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:01 am

davidstone28 wrote:Don't you need to do the coolbits hack to enabled temp monitoring in NV controller?
Ive used coolbits reg hack with 66.93 and 66.81 detonators and the latest rivatuner no core temp at all, im hoping a bios update will fix this someday

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Post by silencery » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:13 am

? Can't you get the temp off speedfan or something?

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Post by rpsgc » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:16 am

EasyRaider wrote:
rpsgc wrote: The GT has a fan, the NU doesn't. Don't ask me why :?:
Because the GT puts out more heat perhaps?
If they can OC it to GT/Ultra speeds and/or unlock extra pipes with just the heatsink ...

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Post by luminous » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:23 am

Yeah, I was thinking that there was potential for the fanless heatsink on a GT model. I think what I am after is a GT model as they seem to be an awful lot faster than the standard model (according to Toms Hardware).

Saying that, the fan on the heatsink maybe extremely quiet, then again of course, it may not be :)

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Post by rpsgc » Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:30 pm

luminous wrote:Yeah, I was thinking that there was potential for the fanless heatsink on a GT model. I think what I am after is a GT model as they seem to be an awful lot faster than the standard model (according to Toms Hardware).

Saying that, the fan on the heatsink maybe extremely quiet, then again of course, it may not be :)
Some guy said it was inaudible from within the case, some other guy said it was the noisiest component in his PC, who knows?! :?

We need more info, like a review :wink:

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Post by mrk22 » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:30 am

Tobias wrote:I don't know if this has been concluded elsewhere, but to me it is news that a fanless Zalman VGA-cooler goes hand in hand with a 6800 vanilla (and obviously with a 6800U as well).
It's too bad that the current Zalman aftermarket offering is said to not fit on 6800 cards.

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Post by Tobias » Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:18 am

AAaaahhhh, I knew it had to be at catch somewhere...

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Post by silencery » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:09 pm

Have you guys seen how much this card is retailing for now at newegg?? Its now $45 more than what I paid 2 weeks ago.... ugh.

Supply must be tight.

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Post by davidstone28 » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:35 am

rpsgc wrote:
Some guy said it was inaudible from within the case, some other guy said it was the noisiest component in his PC, who knows?! :?

We need more info, like a review :wink:
Alot of the people on the Zalman forums describe the stock GT cooler as "insanely loud".

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Post by EasyRaider » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:21 am

rpsgc wrote:
EasyRaider wrote: Because the GT puts out more heat perhaps?
If they can OC it to GT/Ultra speeds and/or unlock extra pipes with just the heatsink ...
And then some user puts their passively cooled GT in a case with poor airflow and overheats it. They just couldn't sell such a product in the retail market, too sizzling hot.

You might as well ask why whe don't see Ultra cards with GT coolers.

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Post by rpsgc » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:57 am

davidstone28 wrote:
rpsgc wrote:
Some guy said it was inaudible from within the case, some other guy said it was the noisiest component in his PC, who knows?! :?

We need more info, like a review :wink:
Alot of the people on the Zalman forums describe the stock GT cooler as "insanely loud".
The Gigabyte GT cooler or the reference board cooler? :?

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Post by frosty » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:30 am

Gheez I almost had an anxiety attack just reading this.

I am against flashing of any kind :)

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Post by tangesazen » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:43 am

I just built a new system with this video card (GV-N68128).
It's twice as fast as my other system with an AIW 9600XT (according to 3D Mark 05, not sure how meaningful that is). I also was able to painlessly overclock it from 325/700 to 375/800, with the GPU temps only going up a few degrees.

I think I can do better, but need to have a big slow fan blowing air at the heatsink.

The one thing I haven't tried yet is to unlock the other pipes with RivaTuner.
It displays 12/5 so there's a chance it will work.

Best of all, the only noise this PC makes is from HD seeks. I have a VGA Silencer on the 9600XT, and it's the noisiest component in that system.

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Post by silencery » Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:23 pm

do you happen to remember what your score was in 3dmark05?

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Post by tangesazen » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:39 pm

This score wasn't generated with my current settings, but it's the last one for which I remembered to click "publish" on the Futuremark site:

Score: 3576
Date: 2004-11-27
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2203 MHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 6800
374 MHz / 776 MHz
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1024x768@32 bit


The 9600XT did 1600 stock, 1800 when it was slightly (about 15%) overclocked.

Sorry I don't know exactly what numbers I got, I was just running 3D Mark as a quick way to see if the PC could handle the current settings.

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Post by silencery » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:51 pm

thanks, i was just curious. I'm sure if you enable the other pipes, if you can, your performance will get significantly better.

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Post by DG » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:53 am

tangesazen, what are the temperatures with that video card? In idle and load...

Thx!

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Post by tangesazen » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:35 am

The Gigabyte VTuner2 app says 54C idle, 62C after playing Far Cry for half an hour. The card is overclocked from the stock 325 core/700 mem to 375/800. It has the standard 12/5, enabling 16 pipes with Rivatuner showed artifacts in 3DMark so I went back to the defaults.

My Winchester temps at 2600 MHz are 37C idle, 54C after ten minutes of CPUBurn (according to AsusProbe). This is with the Zalman cooler running at 1800 RPM. I had it at 1300, but was able to raise the RPMs up to 1800 without increasing the noise of the system. I figured if I was going to overclock it, I might as well cool it a bit more.

The motherboard temps range from 29C idle to 31 under load.

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Post by luminous » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:26 pm

Woohoo!!

Just got my Gigabyte 6800. Christmas cash comes in nice :)

My usual luck continued, as soon as the card was taken out of the box one of the screws holding the heatsink fell out. Found it in the end, and it went back in OK :)

Initially I plugged it into a molex coming from my fan controller and wondered why it did not boot!! This is what happens when you have tidy wiring that is all tucked away so you cannot see what is what anymore ;)

Anyway, its all up and running, and the fan controller also lived. Now it is just a case of working out how to overclock it. I know some of you have done so with the Rivatuner. Does anyone know of a good simple guide on a forum to help out that you have used?

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Post by DG » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:43 pm

What are the temperatures for the card?

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Post by Rutger » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:38 am

One thing to keep in mind is that with the LE bios installed the card runs at 1.1 V compared to the NU bios 1.2 V. Not sure how much that will impact heat.

I run my card with the LE bios and have unlocked to 12/6 and overclocked the card to 375/800. This is at 1.1 V, have to test with the 1.3 bios so that I get 1.2 V and measure the temperature difference. However currently I'm on my old computer since my MSI K8N Neo2 Plat broke down.

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Gigabyte's Software...nope!

Post by mixter » Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:09 am

I scored one of the Gigabyte 6800GT's with the fanned massive/passive? heatsinks back in November. The included Gigabyte sw, The VGA V-Tuner Utility appeared to be pretty well thought out with all the bells and whistles we might want including some nice fan speed optimizing which I immediately took advantage of. The improved fps and video quality were stunning in all my games and dvd playing. But FarCry started crashing almost immediately after like 20 minutes of play. I tried every blessed ForceWare driver available at Guru3D but the crashes continued. I finally turned off the V-Tuner utility and voila, no mo' crashes. For the record, any of the drivers in the 70.XX series do very well with all my games and benchmarks.
That BIOS flash utility never showed an updated bios for that card...Thank God!

The crashes had me setting up rma's with both ZZF and Gigabyte. The Gigabyte techs are worthless. I've gotten absolutely no worthwhile solutions from them over the last couple years on either mobos or vid cards. Their engineers design good products and the marketing people get what we want onto the products but the production and support functions are seriously bad...imho.

Quiet?..not really. It's a different kind of hissing which is less painful than the Evga FX5900se I had before.

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