New cooler from Artic-Cooling: Accelero TWIN TURBO

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New cooler from Artic-Cooling: Accelero TWIN TURBO

Post by chompy » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:39 am

It seems that finally the new Artic-Cooling cooler is available:

Accelero TWIN TURBO

It supports the new Ati's, but not the new nVidias...
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Post by nafets » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:06 am

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Post by krille » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:02 am

nafets wrote:Basically it's an Accelero S1 Rev. 2 with 2 stock 80mm cooling fans. I'd venture to say that cooling performance would fall in line with an Accelero S1 Rev. 2 + a zip-tied 120mm case fan...
No. The S1 is much larger. The S1 is 296.7cm^2 and 33mm thick without a fan, the TWIN TURBO is 218.36cm^2 and 34mm thick with two fans. As for their weights it's hard to compare since we don't know how much the fans weigh. A single 120mm fan is also much better than two 80mm fans.

To me it looks more like a smaller version of the Accelero Xtreme.

The S1 already supports 4850 and 4870 and is most likely still the reigning champion.
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Post by Tzupy » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:35 am

While it's not going to match the S1, in a restricted space, like the NSK2480, it might be the best option, IMO better then the Zalman VF-1000.

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Post by psyopper » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:43 am

And it would be a nice system for doing a cross fire setup. With a fan controller of course, one could manage a very nice very high end gaming system with very quiet operation.

I am imagining an E8400 with a 1283, a couple of these on 2 x 4870's, a decent power supply (Corsair VX450 might be enough) a 6400AAKS or 1TB F1 and a couple of 120mm fans in a P182...

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Post by thejamppa » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:06 pm

psyopper wrote:And it would be a nice system for doing a cross fire setup. With a fan controller of course, one could manage a very nice very high end gaming system with very quiet operation.

I am imagining an E8400 with a 1283, a couple of these on 2 x 4870's, a decent power supply (Corsair VX450 might be enough) a 6400AAKS or 1TB F1 and a couple of 120mm fans in a P182...
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Post by ash2459 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:02 pm

Does it require one or two additonal slots?

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Post by oscar3d » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:48 am

NO FREAKING EXHAUST COOLING. AGAIN!

STUPID FIXED FANS. AGAIN!



No thanks Arctic. You sold your exhaust cooling solutions to videocard vendors; your partnerships to have your patents only being used with HIS Digital, living us consumers with PURE SHIT.

You stopped doing exhaust solutions, and that's when you lost me forever.


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Sorry, plain and simple but it's true.

I apologize if I sound too energic, but everything that has come from Arctic Cooling as heatsinks from 2006-2008 are nothing but crap.
Well, your S1 was at least flexible with fans.... but still...

I think it's time for them to learn that it's not fun having +100W +200W of heated air recirculating in your machine and keeping your card cool, while all the other components in my system can go to hell.

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Post by FartingBob » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:08 am

Not everyone wants/needs aftermarket exhaust cooling.
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Post by Elvellon » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:01 am

No, but those who do need them can't get them because AFAIK only NV/AMD themselves can have exhaust coolers now.
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Post by kel » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:56 am

Elvellon wrote:No, but those who do need them can't get them because AFAIK only NV/AMD themselves can have exhaust coolers now.
Hmm...this gives me ideas...tbh it should be rather easy to mod an accelero (S1 or S2) into an exhaust cooling solution. Simply mount a fan near the front of the card and then add some air guidance, i.e.:

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Post by mrk22 » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:02 am

oscar3d wrote:
You stopped doing exhaust solutions, and that's when you lost me forever.


I haven't followed things too closely, but was very disappointed by the SPCR reviews of the initial exhaust coolers from Arctic Cooling. They were always deemed too loud and stupidly used a transparent plasic fan for increased vibration.

Did arctic cooling ever actually release a quiet exhaust cooler?

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Post by krille » Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:16 am

FartingBob wrote:Not everyone wants/needs aftermarket exhaust cooling.
I think anyone using their contemporary mid- to high-end video card inside a case wants it. :wink:

Just imagine a ducted S1 with a 120mm fan (drool). If you do mod yours, kel, please keep us updated.
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Post by Tzupy » Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:28 am

@kel: Do you realize how much impedance would have an axial fan have to overcome in your design?
This is the reason why the exhausting VGA coolers use radial fans, they handle impedance much better, even if their CFM / RPM is worse.
A radial fan that would blow across the S1 (from the front of the case to the back) would make the whole setup way too large.
I tought of a compact system, like a heatsink similar to the HR-03, with a radial fan pushing towards the back, which would have a reasonable size.

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Post by kel » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:57 am

Well I finally got around to install the accelero2, couldn't use the ram heatsinks as it was impossible to get them to stick but as I've got active cooling now I'm not really worried - pics and results:
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No ducting yet, and tbh I doubt I'll be doing any. I've got idle temps of around 39c (gfx/cpu) now and running a typical game both cpu & gpu stay at <50c.

North & Soutbridge also seem to stay at around 70c max (Intel P35DP MB - the sensors for these chips don't even register temps below 66c and apparently they're fine up to 120-130c so these temps are great)

Interestingly enough after fitting the S2 the cpu seems to run 5c cooler than before, the fan mounted to the S2 is blowing bottom to top so that might explain it...surprsing, but i'm certainly not complaining ^^

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Post by falcon26 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:32 am

I don't think the S1 fits on the 4870. People I've seen say the ramsinks hit the cooler and it wouldn't fit even if you bent the heatpipes. But the S1 does fit on the 4850..
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Post by Elvellon » Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:51 am

Most of the heat from graphics RAM is dissipated into the circuit board, most stock coolers use some horrible cloth things...
AFAIK it is possible do stuff like S1 + 8800GT without ramsinks, especially with a fan attached. And 4870's GDDR5 memory is supposed to be cooler than GDDR3 (don't know if it's at equal frequencies though).
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Post by kel » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:52 pm

Elvellon wrote:Most of the heat from graphics RAM is dissipated into the circuit board, most stock coolers use some horrible cloth things...
Yeah that's what I thought, the passive gf9600gt designs I've seen all seem to do without any ram/pwm heatsinks so I figured I'd be fine. And yeah mine also had these cloth thingies, apparently they're soaked in some grease that's nearly impossible to get off the chips (at least not without a special cleaning solution and I didn't feel confident enough to experiment around with that...) and it prevents heatsinks from sticking...

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Post by xev » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:30 pm

rubbing alcohol can be safely used to remove the pads from memory. and i think its possible to use other kinds of ramsinks that are shorter, or just mod the ones that come with S1 by snipping away the ends to make them shorter, it shouldnt be any harder than modding a case

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Post by aztec » Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:02 am

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Post by jhhoffma » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:49 am

Elvellon wrote:No, but those who do need them can't get them because AFAIK only NV/AMD themselves can have exhaust coolers now.
You can always make your own..
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Post by cercle » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:35 am

HI cercle here ,you all know zallman vf1000 ,it is less interesting than S.. from arctic , that's all right ,so i would like to present you a special part designed by zallman in order to replace it's own RAM RADIATOR,it uses SCREWS and BOLTS ! yes!, no more loosy chewing gum,plus a prayer ,so your card won't loose its ram rads. :lol: Zallman finally offers something interesting ,it is a large rad, as big as the card ,in fact the 6 or 8 rad you used to stick on card by sticky things are all united in one ,it is then screwed using the hole the original cooler don't use anymore!A MIX OF ARTICGPURAD AND ZALLMANRAMRAD SHOULD BE DONE AND TESTED,dear MIKE ,i hope somebody will offer it to you,i suppose you allready own a S.. from Arctic ,so ,it 's a cheap rad,10 or20 Euro , :roll: so think of it,it may be the best ,easy to do,rad system,i mean S+2/120fan+ram rad.Pleasze...,i think of my old 1900xtx512+X1,it deserve a new cooling.I personnnally removed all the chewing thermal pad gum on my pc's parts= mobo+cpu+gpu :twisted: then reduced space between component and rad using a file,then used the cpu paste i use and bolt+springs ,by the way ,don't forget to separate/protect bolts or screws from your cards, :twisted: The one and only PROBLEM is that cards are flexible ,and rads are not,that 's why the thermal pads are made , they look like chewing gums , fullfilling many gaps between rads and mold cards,plus the fact that soldering is not perfectly flat sometime so, look at your cards, you may put a chip out of reach of your rad system.DO IT YOURSELF needs caution

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Post by aztec » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:46 pm

Does the Twin Turbo hang over the card like the HR-03 coolers?

I'd like to get a cooler that's more or less the same width as the VGA card. with 80mm fans, this might work out.

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Post by LuckyNV » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:23 am

aztec wrote:Does the Twin Turbo hang over the card like the HR-03 coolers?

I'd like to get a cooler that's more or less the same width as the VGA card. with 80mm fans, this might work out.
it should be the same width as the card PCB, height above the card is roughly the same as the AC S1 without fan.

basically this thing should perform worse than the AC S1 + fan, but better than AC S1 passive.
Main advantage is that its more compact

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Post by chompy » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:41 am

According to Fudzilla, Force3D will attach this cooler to a new Ati HD 4800-series cards:

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Post by thejamppa » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:33 am

LuckyNV wrote:
aztec wrote:Does the Twin Turbo hang over the card like the HR-03 coolers?

I'd like to get a cooler that's more or less the same width as the VGA card. with 80mm fans, this might work out.
it should be the same width as the card PCB, height above the card is roughly the same as the AC S1 without fan.

basically this thing should perform worse than the AC S1 + fan, but better than AC S1 passive.
Main advantage is that its more compact
it also has 3 pin moboheader AND 4-pin PCB header, so fans are controlled via card's own bios. This is something really handy...
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Post by LuckyNV » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:50 pm

thejamppa wrote:
LuckyNV wrote: it also has 3 pin moboheader AND 4-pin PCB header, so fans are controlled via card's own bios. This is something really handy...
that too i suppose, but you could fit a pwm fan to the S1 aswell

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Post by falcon26 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:55 pm

I thought it was supposed to be out by now. Are their any places selling it yet?
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Post by thejamppa » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:32 am

LuckyNV wrote:
thejamppa wrote:
LuckyNV wrote: it also has 3 pin moboheader AND 4-pin PCB header, so fans are controlled via card's own bios. This is something really handy...
that too i suppose, but you could fit a pwm fan to the S1 aswell
Problem is that regular mobo PMW 4-pin fanheader is much different from the 4-pin PMW PCB fanheader. besides I am not comfy to trust Motherboards fan control when it comes cooling VGA.
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