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What about the Powercolor model?
http://www.powercolor.com/global/produc ... asp?id=220

Is it any worse or better than other 5670 models in terms of power consumption?

I see that it hasn't the 6pin power connector, will the mother board (compared to my 3850 which has the atx 6pin connector) be hotter if all the power is drawn from the pci-ex slot and not from the 6pin molex?

I may expect a 25-30% improvement in terms of fps at 1680x1050, what about the power consumption (consider that my 3850 256mb is downvolted at 1,134v in 3d and 1,05 in 2d@150/284) ?

flapane wrote:Is it any worse or better than other 5670 models in terms of power consumption?

I mean nobody can answer. Surely it should go a bit faster than lots of sisters.

flapane wrote:I see that it hasn't the 6pin power connector, will the mother board (compared to my 3850 which has the atx 6pin connector) be hotter if all the power is drawn from the pci-ex slot and not from the 6pin molex?

Definitely no.

flapane wrote:I may expect a 25-30% improvement in terms of fps at 1680x1050, what about the power consumption (consider that my 3850 256mb is downvolted at 1,134v in 3d and 1,05 in 2d@150/284) ?

I mean no one can answer such an hypotethical question: regardless of your 3850, under Furmark you'd get something 65-70W, while heavily gaming you'd get 50-60W.

However, if I may tell, any good 5750 should be a very much better choice, if you can afford it: the PowerColor 5750 Go Green will be a near perfect shot, but it's very rare and probably too much costly.

Ciao,
Luca

I wouldn't want to spend more because I can play anything at 1680x1050 with my 3850, but it's clear that in some cases I need another little bit of juice.
I can sell my 3850 and spend something like 20/25eur, while a 5750 would cost more.

Oh, I forgot to say that my 3850 has 256mb of ram on board, and that's the main handicap.

I was referring to efficiency: the 5750 should be more efficient than the HD5670 PCS+ at load, and may offer more horsepower than a 4850, about +33% over the 5670. The drawback is a generally higher idle power consumption (and the PowerColor doesn't seem the most efficient HD5670 around).

Now, in Italy the HD5670 PCS+ starts from 70-80 euros, while various HD5750 (XFX, Sapphire, PowerColor) starts from 90-100 euros, so I'm confident you've done your homework.

Regards,
Luca

I can buy a 5670 for 50eur from a guy living 10minutes from home. The more I can save, the better.
Also, idle power consumption is a really important factor, as I'm not the kind of guy playing 24/7, and can lower the res at 1440x900 whenever the horsepower isn't enough at 1680x1050.

flapane wrote:I can buy a 5670 for 50eur from a guy living 10minutes from home.

So you have to seize this opportunity, more probably that not other HD5670s' price won't worth any idle power difference.

Regards,
Luca

Ottimo suggerimento

Yes.
I've just mounted it
I hope I'll grab soon a power meter and see if there are any noticeable power consumption differences.

I can't change the voltage.
Ati tray tools doesn't show any voltage but 0,9 (powerplay 2d) and 1,1 (powerplay 3d).
Any hints?

Why would you want to change voltage to a card that uses less than 20 watts at idle?
Anyway, on most lower end 5000-series cards you are limited to BIOS modding to change voltages.

Why shouldn't I? Especially in 3d mode, you can save a significant amount of watts, as for hd3850. Even in idle you can save some watts, and that's the main goal on such forums (thank godness we're not on hwupgrade here).
BIOS undervolting sounds bad, what a pity.

@Parappaman: Why? Less heat in idle! Most people don't care, most people don't have passive HS on CPU and VGA ... but some do and those care.

I tried with MSI Afterburner too, and it couldn't regulate the voltage.

Honestly I can't understand why the card idles at 49/50°. It should draw some 15w (definitely A FEW watts only) and the fan spins at about 45%. The older 3850 idled at 49/50°, but the fan was shut down.

Resell it.

Regards,
Luca

Italians always distinct themselves, even on the web.

Please ignore this thread.

flapane wrote:Italians always distinct themselves, even on the web.

Especially neapolitans, often cafoni.

Regards,
Luca

Ma vaffanculo, con tutto il cuore.
Grazie per l'hijacking del thread.

flapane wrote:Ma vaffanculo, con tutto il cuore.

As already said, an actual cafone.

Regards,
Luca

P.S.: it should be written "tuttoattaccato", I guess. Cafone and illetterato.

Ah, l'amour...

C'mon we are off topic a bit.
Btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3iAqxNpQ-A

Can we now discuss Powercolor 5670 card?

Luckily there won't be any other thread hijacks in the future...

Back on topic, one of the reason could be (and Ati tray tools developer confirmed me that there are some incompatibilities between ATT and hd5xxx regarding FAN table and voltages) Ati Tray Tools using 1.1v even in 2d mode, because the total power consumption without ATT is some 6w lower than with ATT enabled and in 2d mode (and supposed to run at 0.900v).
The problems haven't been fixed yet as today.