AMD 64 3000+ to 4000+ noise increase?

ch33 · Post by **ch33** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:31 pm

Hi,

I'm thinking of moving my 3000+ to another pc and upgrading to a single core 4000+. I've been happy with the fan/heatsink that came with the 3000+ as it only gets noisy when I'm playing loud games anyway. Anyone got any idea how much noise increase I can expect just with the supplied fan/heatsink for the 4000+?

TIA

Devonavar · Post by **Devonavar** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:20 pm

What revision of the 3000+ do you have? The stock heatsink that AMD has shipped with their processors has evolved considerably in the time that the processor has been around. The heat output has also dropped considerably, so it's possible that the 4000+ that you purchase may actually be cooler than your current chip. To a certain extent it's luck of the draw though. Check this thread to get an idea of how to gauge the heat output of your current chip, and estimate how hot the new chip is likely to be.

ch33 · Post by **ch33** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:29 am

Cooler? That wouldn't be too bad!

At present I have a socket 939 3000+ Venice core 90nm, revision DH-E6, and I like my quiet room!

Devonavar · Post by **Devonavar** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:33 pm

Ok, so you don't have a really early model, so you're unlikely to get a cooler-running chip. But, run TCaseMax on your processor and find out what the TDP is. Then dig through the thread I linked to above and see what the TDP range for the 4000+ is.

roadie · Post by **roadie** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:25 am

The E6 Venice's (bar the 3800+) are rated at 67W. The 3700+, 3800+ and 4000+ are rates as 89W.

I myself have just upgraded from an E3 Venice 3000+ to a 3700+ (OEM failed dual core) and have been very suprised and annoyed to see how much the temperatures have risen. The Venice used to idle in the low 30's, whether at stock or overclocked to 2400Mhz at 1.5V but the 3700+ idles at 40 degrees at 1.35V. This causes the fan on my Freezer 64 Pro to spin to its maximum speed, and therefore becomes by far the loudest thing in my case.

Retail 3500+ prices are pretty low at the moment (Â£75) so I might pick up an E6 version of one of those, as they are the fastest 939 parts rated at 67W. I will then be able to sell both the 3000+ and the 3700+. What does everyone think of this?

jaganath · Post by **jaganath** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:07 am

I will then be able to sell both the 3000+ and the 3700+. What does everyone think of this?

I don't see why you would do this when you can run the 3000+ @ 2.4Ghz and idle in the low 30's.

roadie · Post by **roadie** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:58 am

jaganath wrote:
I will then be able to sell both the 3000+ and the 3700+. What does everyone think of this?
I don't see why you would do this when you can run the 3000+ @ 2.4Ghz and idle in the low 30's.

I'm after a higher multiplier for more speed when overclocking... Anyway, I have a new retail 3500+ on the way, plus an EPoX EP-9U1697 GLI to use whilst my EP 9NPA+ Ultra is being RMA'd. Hopefully the 3500+ will have a much lower TDP than my 3700+, which is 61.8W.