any Socket P MotD mobo's out yet?

stefor · Post by **stefor** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:10 pm

Ouch. This is a high end graphic card price.
But I know that AOpen mAtx motherboards have allways been very expensive. Lets hope that several competitors will issue gm45 mobo to take down the price.

funnel · Post by **funnel** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:12 am

frank2003 wrote:If you are looking for mini-itx form factor GM45 based board be prepared to pay north of $300 for it. And it doesn't even come with a CPU.

It looks like the aopen board comes with an integrated PSU and external 90W power brick. But I agree it is still quite pricy.

drapsag · Post by **drapsag** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:30 am

I couldn't discover any gm45 boards with 1394 Firewire... I am wrong?

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:57 pm

MSI Speedster GM45 ÂµATX. Seems like the usual S478 mounting holes.
The Speedster motherboards are made for server and workstation use, that's why this model have three LAN ports and only one VGA port, no HDMI or DVI.

I wonder if anyone wants these kind of motherboards anymore since the desktop CPU's use very little power and costs less.
The best combination would be an E7200 together with a GM45 chipset.
Desktop CPU with a mobile chipset, that is.
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The mini-ITX boards from MSI have usually lower prices than models from less known manufacturers. IPOX (Foxconn) have good prices too.

The IM-GM45 cost â‚¬240 in Germany though, dunno if that's the lowest price. By the way, that store have lots of models, but I think they have high prices in general.

jamesavery22 · Post by **jamesavery22** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:44 am

Mobile chips will always consume less. Im one of those "its never enough" people so I'll always be interested in motd solutions.

That being said my next setup will probably be the dg45fc & a e7200. There just aren't any new motd solutions out.

ex.treme · Post by **ex.treme** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:07 am

Hallo!
i mean the mobo with Gm45 like dfi ca230-bf or Msi Gm45 support older cpu with 667-800 and high 1066 fsb.
See the links:

http://tw.dfi-acp.com/Product/xx_produc ... CT_ID=6335

ex.treme · Post by **ex.treme** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:50 am

Mats wrote: I wonder if anyone wants these kind of motherboards anymore since the desktop CPU's use very little power and costs less.
The best combination would be an E7200 together with a GM45 chipset.
Desktop CPU with a mobile chipset, that is.
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But Gm45 chipset are only in mini-itx mb doesn't?

Is not choice take Gm45 chipset with 775 socket.

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:13 am

I said "would be".

stefanello · Post by **stefanello** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:37 am

I reopen this thread to ask that:

is a socket m 479 cooler compatible with socket p?

I mean something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001KPJATQ/r ... B001KPJATQ

Thank you

Merlinen · Post by **Merlinen** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:16 am

Have totaly missed this thread

Anyone here know where you can buy "Gigabyte GA-6KIEH-RH" in Europe ??

valnar · Post by **valnar** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:01 am

I made the mistake of buying the MSI MS-9803 "Fuzzy" GME965 board and sure enough, it doesn't support any of the mobile processor power saving features. It was running full throttle all the time sucking power and generating heat. Darn MSI BIOS - it had no options to implement those features.

I want a low powered MoTD box with dual Intel NIC's for a firewall and the Gigabyte GA-6KIEH-RH is the only other alternative. According to the PDF manual, it appears that it supports the various power states. I don't know if it also lowers voltage though. Can anyone confirm?
http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/M ... e_1001.pdf

bigdoofus · Post by **bigdoofus** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:31 am

valnar wrote:I made the mistake of buying the MSI MS-9803 "Fuzzy" GME965 board and sure enough, it doesn't support any of the mobile processor power saving features. It was running full throttle all the time sucking power and generating heat. Darn MSI BIOS - it had no options to implement those features.

I want a low powered MoTD box with dual Intel NIC's for a firewall and the Gigabyte GA-6KIEH-RH is the only other alternative. According to the PDF manual, it appears that it supports the various power states. I don't know if it also lowers voltage though. Can anyone confirm?
http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/M ... e_1001.pdf

Same problem with that board. No Speedstep at all using Linux so its running full blast with a T7250. MSI basically said they don't care when responding to my support tickets. Debating replacing this with an E3300 Celeron since I also blew out my USB ports

valnar · Post by **valnar** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:17 pm

bigdoofus wrote: Same problem with that board. No Speedstep at all using Linux so its running full blast with a T7250. MSI basically said they don't care when responding to my support tickets. Debating replacing this with an E3300 Celeron since I also blew out my USB ports

Right. I'm aware of the MSI issue, but did you confirm it with the Gigabyte?

bigdoofus · Post by **bigdoofus** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:24 pm

valnar wrote:
bigdoofus wrote: Same problem with that board. No Speedstep at all using Linux so its running full blast with a T7250. MSI basically said they don't care when responding to my support tickets. Debating replacing this with an E3300 Celeron since I also blew out my USB ports
Right. I'm aware of the MSI issue, but did you confirm it with the Gigabyte?

I did ask them but I never got a clear response back. I just didn't feel like spending another $200 on another board that I was unsure about.

Note: I'm using Linux so my question was Linux specific. Windows support may be better due to RMClock

valnar · Post by **valnar** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:33 pm

bigdoofus wrote: I did ask them but I never got a clear response back. I just didn't feel like spending another $200 on another board that I was unsure about.

I just returned the MSI board so the BIOS screens are fresh in my mind. They didn't have anything as you know. But the manual I linked above for the Gigabyte looks promising. Like you though, I'd need to take a chance.

The payoff is a firewall server that is more powerful than any Atom or VIA Nano I could buy, while using about the same power. It just costs more to get it, which I'm okay with.

bigdoofus · Post by **bigdoofus** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:24 pm

valnar wrote:
bigdoofus wrote: I did ask them but I never got a clear response back. I just didn't feel like spending another $200 on another board that I was unsure about.
I just returned the MSI board so the BIOS screens are fresh in my mind. They didn't have anything as you know. But the manual I linked above for the Gigabyte looks promising. Like you though, I'd need to take a chance.

The payoff is a firewall server that is more powerful than any Atom or VIA Nano I could buy, while using about the same power. It just costs more to get it, which I'm okay with.

Just an update. I'm switching my server from a SATA HDD to SSD and in the process I tested Windows 2008 R2 (for TRIM support and Hyper-V). and I can confirm that RMClock does work, even with the MSI board. Right now i'm doing a Prime95 at 1.1250V on a T7500 @ 2.2Ghz.

valnar · Post by **valnar** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:23 am

I built my PC using the Gigabyte GA-6KIEH-RH with an L7700 CPU. It works great.

I currently have it as a VMware ESXi 4.0 server, which supports Speedstep. At idle, it's drawing 23 watts according to my Kill-a-Watt. It goes up to 35W when maxed (cpu, no graphics really used).

SandSand · Post by **SandSand** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:28 am

Just fund this thread, and wanted to share my considerations for a socket P modt.

I have ordered a DFI-ACP CA331-NR http://tw.dfi-acp.com/Product/xx_produc ... _TYPE=null

Plan on fitting it with a P9700

Only drawbacks as I can see is missing HDMI and missing S/PDIF bracket (have ordered a bracket elsewhere).

My current modt is an MSI Speedstar A4R, with a T7600, running win7 which has been rock solid so far.

Slothbear · Post by **Slothbear** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:29 pm

Glad to see that this thread got going again!

I'm just about to design a new low power system, and will most likely use a Socket P penryn CPU.

What is the power consumption of a MoDT system compared to a similar laptop? My W500 usually draws less than 20W, which is including screen. If I move the same T9400 CPU to a montevina motherboard (thinking about the Jetway NF-93) what kind of Idle power can I expect?

SandSand · Post by **SandSand** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:19 am

Slothbear wrote:thinking about the Jetway NF-93

Looks like a really nice board! Got me reconsidering my DFI board

loaky · Post by **loaky** » Sat May 22, 2010 3:31 pm

I'm interested in what everyones using cooling wise? i've got a Commel LV-679 with a T7500 onboard, with the stock cooler that came with the board, and even with RMClock running with the voltages lowered to stable levels it's still running hot. And my hunt for any coolers in the same fitment has been fruitless.

hmsrolst · Post by **hmsrolst** » Sat May 22, 2010 3:39 pm

loaky wrote:I'm interested in what everyones using cooling wise? i've got a Commel LV-679 with a T7500 onboard, with the stock cooler that came with the board, and even with RMClock running with the voltages lowered to stable levels it's still running hot. And my hunt for any coolers in the same fitment has been fruitless.

I don't know about the particular board, but with a tall enough case, I've used this cooler in two Mini-ITX builds with Penryns:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thhrchco1.html

You can just use a quiet 80mm fan like a Real Silent. It's pretty flexible regarding the exact spacing on the holes.

loaky · Post by **loaky** » Sat May 22, 2010 3:58 pm

Wow that was quick, you're a gent. that does look like it'd be great, just have to do a bit of measuring. There's a few UK places that stock it too. Just a case of working out the mountings too.

EDIT: I assume we are talking about having it as a CPU cooler? and not a chipset cooler, it's designed job.

hmsrolst · Post by **hmsrolst** » Sat May 22, 2010 4:47 pm

loaky wrote:EDIT: I assume we are talking about having it as a CPU cooler? and not a chipset cooler, it's designed job.

Right.

loaky · Post by **loaky** » Sat May 22, 2010 4:51 pm

Excellent, i'll have the PC to bits tomorrow and measure up, only thing I can see it fouling on is the ATX power connector / cables. We'll see!

Thanks again.

loaky · Post by **loaky** » Mon May 24, 2010 12:18 pm

Ordered it! Think it'll be a tight fit but we'll have to see, not a lot of choices about.

hmsrolst · Post by **hmsrolst** » Mon May 24, 2010 1:07 pm

loaky wrote:Ordered it! Think it'll be a tight fit but we'll have to see, not a lot of choices about.

These CPU's need very little cooling. In one of my systems, I had to mount the fan on the back end, so it was pulling instead of pushing. It worked fine, as so little airflow is needed. Good luck.

loaky · Post by **loaky** » Mon May 24, 2010 1:16 pm

Thankyou, i've heard that too but with the stock cooler it just seems to melt, maybe that's airflow in the case too though. We'll see how it fairs when I get the new cooler.

sgksgk · Post by **sgksgk** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:30 pm

So where to buy a DFI CA331 board? I only found places that list them buy dont sell them

SandSand · Post by **SandSand** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:59 am

sgksgk wrote:So where to buy a DFI CA331 board? I only found places that list them buy dont sell them

This is where I bought it: www.rosch-computer.de
But they only sell B2B, so you need a VAT number.
But I think the jetway board looks just as good + it's cheaper.

The DFI board is btw working like a charm. Drawback is the proprietary heatsink holes so I am using a nothbridge heatsink from thermalright. But it is big enough for this CPU.

Adding that I am using the Winmate 130W PSU and a 120 brick, I am cooling the whole system with a single 120mm nexus, which is usually runnning at lowest speed. Nice and quiet

Maybe I should upload a picture ...

any Socket P MotD mobo's out yet?

No Firewire