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HOWTO: Overclock C2Q & C2D - A Guide v1.7

Post by graysky » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:19 am

Edited on 08-Jun-2008: Guide is now version 1.7 – added a 2nd example minimizing the vcores on my system.

Before you continue, I wrote this guide with the newbie in mind, so please don't reply criticizing it for being too simplistic -- it's this way by design. Also know that the steps for overclocking apply to all chips: quads, duals, single-cores, or triple-core processors. You can use the basics taught in this guide with any modern machine.

I wrote the guide originally using a Q6600/Asus P5B-Deluxe, but recently sold that machine and upgraded to an X3360/DFI LT P35-T2R. I didn’t want to change the first half of the guide, so it’s still based on the Q6600/Asus board. The newly written section about finding a minimum stable CPU and MB vcore section is written based on my actual experience finding stable settings for this newer machine. Again, the steps for overclocking are pretty independent of this subtle change. Finally, I take no responsibility for what you do with the information in this guide. Overclock your hardware at your own risk.

Overlocking Basics

Before you start, read your motherboard manual. Know how to reset your BIOS in the event that you are too aggressive in your CPU settings and it doesn't complete a POST (Power On Self Test, that beep when you first turn the machine on and it starts up means you passed the POST). Some motherboards reset automatically if you switch off the power supply for 30 seconds or so. Others require you to move a jumper to reset them.

The basic formula you need to know for CPU speed is:

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CPU Speed = CPUM x FSB
where CPUM is the CPU Multiplier, and FSB is the front side bus.
Example: The Q6600 runs at a factory setting of 2.40 GHz. That's the product of a 9x multiplier and a 266 MHz FSB (quad pumped it's 1066 MHz but we're not quad pumping these numbers). So CPU Speed = 9 x 266 which is 2,394 MHz or 2.40 GHz.

Below is a list of Intel chips. Most of them, including the Q6600, have a "locked" multiplier – meaning it can't go above a certain value (9x in this case). The only way to increase the CPU speed beyond the stock value is by raising the FSB. Other "Extreme" chips like the QX9650 or X6850 have “unlocked" multipliers; you can raise their multipliers above the stock value. These chips are denoted from the standard stock by the letter “Xâ€
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Post by nick705 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:00 am

Isn't this the same one you've already posted at [H]ard|Forum... ?

Nice job, anyway. :)

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Post by graysky » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:03 am

Yeah, same one... remember though that not spcr user reads the stuff on other boards.

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Post by jaganath » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:44 am

Component Best Case Worst Case
Power Supply 5-15 W 40-60 W
Motherboard 10-15 W 30-50 W
Processor 12-30 W 60-120 W
RAM 5-15 W 30-50W
Hard Drive 3-5 W (2.5") 10-15 W (3.5")
Graphics Card (single) 3-10 W (integrated) 25-180 W (PCI Express)
Total 38-90 W 195-475 W
30-50W for RAM?? shurely shome mishtake!

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Post by graysky » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:54 pm

@jag: that does seem high, but I checked and indeed, TH's article shows those values.

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Post by vortex222 » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:58 pm

graysky wrote:@jag: that does seem high, but I checked and indeed, TH's article shows those values.
Toms Hardware is not the first place i go for reliable information.

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Post by graysky » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:35 am

Just updated the guide to version 1.3 which contains new info, fixes, clean-ups, etc. Enjoy!

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Post by aristide1 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:59 pm

I'd like to add that NB dividers for NB speeds reset to a new number every 66MHz, at least on Asus boards. That's why sometimes they won't run from 380 to 399 FSB and then start working again at 400 (perhaps 401, I am not sure).

This implies that the closer you're running to a multiple of 66MHz the more likely more components on the motherboard run closer to stock speeds.

The Jonnyguru website publishes power supply articles that show scope photos of noise coming from power supplies. Needless to say not all power supplies do an equally good job, and at the extremes it's the 12V rails that get into the most trouble. Some got in trouble before they reached their designated capacity. Corsairs sailed through all tests, as did several others.

The other really interesting info in those articles is you see actually max amps, not the peak max that can't be sustained. The actual max amps on each rail is way less than the peak on the labels, with most actual max amps being about half what the label says. Without a doubt ps specs are the most notoriously embellished specs to be found among any and all PC specs.

Guru also tears the ps apart noting if quality parts are used or not.

Over at Rebel's Haven one person discovered he could get a higher OC with extra cooling on his southbridge. These seems counter intuitive as most people keep the PCI and PCI-E bus speeds at stock regardless. I will note on my TForce 6100 the southbridge is as hot as the northbridge, which in in the 60C range.

PS - During my tear down of an old Pentium III several months ago I want to say that I had used Artic Silver 3 at the time. It stayed put and showed no sign of changing consistency at all over a period of about 5 years. Not bad.

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Post by graysky » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:45 pm

Thanks for the info, dude.

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Post by graysky » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:51 am

Minor update made.

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Post by graysky » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:49 am

Version is now 1.5.2 (updates in first post)

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Post by graysky » Sun May 04, 2008 3:10 pm

Guide is now version 1.6

• Added a detailed section to help you find the minimum stable CPU and MB vcore settings. Check it out (near the bottom of the guide entitled, “Stress Testing and Minimizing Your Vcoresâ€

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Post by graysky » Sat May 10, 2008 1:54 am

Version 1.6.1 is up. Totally re-wrote the section on memory which now includes a discussion on both DDR2/DDR3 and formulas you can use to calculate max supported FSB of a given module based on it's DDRX-Y and PCX-Y designations. Also re-ordered the first part of the guide.

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Post by graysky » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:47 am

Edited on 08-Jun-2008: Guide is now version 1.7 – added a 2nd example minimizing the vcores on my system.

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Post by williemues » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:37 pm

Great guide, thanks a bunch :D

(I´ll sticky that myself -:)

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