45W Athlon II may arrive in early September

line · Post by **line** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:19 pm

http://vr-zone.com/articles/athlon-ii-c ... /7484.html

http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6844

For me, it's going to be a tossup between 785G + 240e and G41 + E6500 (which should be available soon, too). Intel wins in raw performance, but AMD is better for multimedia and casual gaming, and hopefully matches Intel's peak power consumption.

mczak · Post by **mczak** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:22 pm

About time I say! (seriously, the energy efficient A64 X2 are already gone what took AMD so long...)
I wonder though if pricing will be similar to what we saw with A64 X2 (which would mean a 240e would probably cost about the same as the regular 250).

btw those quad-core Propus seem to be really cheap. If early pricing is any indication, the X2 620 (2.6Ghz) cost about the same as Phenom II X2 550 (3.1Ghz) or Phenom II X3 710 (2.6Ghz).
So for the same price you can either get two fast cores with 6MB L3 cache, or 3 slower clocked ones also with 6MB L3 cache, or 4 slower clocked (actually same clock as you get the 3 cores) ones without L3 cache... pretty interesting - or maybe some of the former options get discontinued.
Looks like the ranas must get priced just barely above the Propus cores then - that's certainly TONS of different cpus (not just with slightly different clocks) within 60-100 euros (seems like propus, rana, regor, callisto, heka ALL will have options within that narrow price range...)

frostedflakes · Post by **frostedflakes** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:18 pm

Fantastic, I've been waiting on these. I'd like to see someone benchmark these and the Phenom II at the same clock speed to see how much difference the lack of L3 cache actually makes. I know back in the 754 and 939 days L2 cache size didn't really matter much, but maybe that's not the case today.

electrodacus · Post by **electrodacus** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:28 pm

Nice to see new low power CPU's.
I loved the times when not only Intel and AMD build processors I always purchased Cyrix

Is strange that they have 600e at 45W and 620 at 95W it seems as a big difference for the same CPU.
I have a Q8400S (65W) quad core from Intel at 2.66GHz with 4MB cache and if I udervolt I get max power of 46W at original speed and if I go lower I get 24W at 2Ghz and 0.925V I will be curios If I can get the same with 600e they will probably be cheap and I can find better motherboards for AMD I'm more interested in power consumption.
If you want to see a small review on my Q8400S see this
viewtopic.php?t=55084

theycallmebruce · Post by **theycallmebruce** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:30 pm

Very nice, I'm looking forward to seeing these. Twice as much L2 cache, HT speed doubled, and slightly higher clock speed with less power consumption versus my 4800+ would be a nice little upgrade. I wonder what voltage they will run at.

Just got to wait for a BIOS update for CPU support from Gigabyte for my 780G board (they are up to revision 10 already with all the AMD CPUs released since the board came out).

bbzidane · Post by **bbzidane** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:56 am

it is going to be a difficult choice for me,
at least until i see some benchmarks

it would be nice to have quad cores,
but dual core will be faster for most things

Goober · Post by **Goober** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:33 pm

I hope we get some reviews. Unfortunately, a lot of times sites just like to review the fastest or the first of a new model so who knows if will get some or not.

I also hope they come out at the first of Sept and not the end.

mczak · Post by **mczak** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:35 am

Goober wrote:I hope we get some reviews. Unfortunately, a lot of times sites just like to review the fastest or the first of a new model so who knows if will get some or not.

I think that's more of a problem of the cpu manufacturers rather than the review sites. The bigger sites all get review samples before launch, and the manufacturers often don't handle out anything but the high-end stuff.
Of course, they could go out and buy them (after launch) but often they don't bother (especially since they already reviewed a very similar, just faster clocked product). Though I'm sure some sites will be interested in the low power chips and review them, but if amd doesn't give out samples it might be later than launch date.

loimlo · Post by **loimlo** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:45 am

Goober wrote:I hope we get some reviews. Unfortunately, a lot of times sites just like to review the fastest or the first of a new model so who knows if will get some or not.

I also hope they come out at the first of Sept and not the end.

Trust me, it is harder to find a lower power consumption motherboard than a lower power consumption cpu. Even though vendors may base their designs on the same chipset, motherboards tend to vary greatly in terms of power consumption across a variety of motherboard vendors.

Edit: correct, clarify my choices of words.

chrispitude · Post by **chrispitude** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:33 am

Ooo, the 45W 2.8GHz X2 Regor would be perfect for my 785G-based HTPC build coming up!

- Chris

Mr Evil · Post by **Mr Evil** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:06 am

It looks like the 45W parts have finally been released... in Japan.

barefootzero · Post by **barefootzero** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:01 am

I wonder what th prices will be like. I also wonder how they compare when undervolted.

Are the 240e and 240 made on the same process? If so I bet they are just 240s picked for their ability to run on lower voltage. If so there might not be much difference between an undervolted 240 and a 240e.

boost · Post by **boost** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:21 am

The Athlon II X4 600e is avalable for 100â‚¬:
http://www.hiq24.de/xtc/products/CPU/So ... K42GI.html
The website lists Athlon II X4 600 with 45W TDP.

GavinAshford · Post by **GavinAshford** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:48 am

There's now a 'simple' review for the 605e on Inpai.com

http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.a ... ageid=5791

The voltages are 0.775v - 1.2v (cpuz showing 1.120v at 2.3ghz, the stock speed) and at an idle draw of 58W on an Asus M4A785D-M PRO with 2x1gb ddr2.

Though if that motherboard is anything like the Asus M4A785TD-V EVO (normal ATX) tested on SPCR then that idle draw could be lower with a board from a different brand.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article967-page7.html

The athlon x3's are apparently going to be released on the 22nd Oct along with windows7, though i cant find anything to say if the x4/x3 45w versions are on the same date though...

Ramses · Post by **Ramses** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:49 am

Tom's has just posted a detailed review of the Athlon II X3 435, with hints to the 45W X4 605e (see pages 3 and 12). Hopefully similar comparative performance can be extrapolated for the slower-clocked 45W processors; I'm now quite tempted to go for an Athlon II X4 605e!

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ath ... ,2452.html

Edit: Anandtech also mentions 45W units: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=3663

ryboto · Post by **ryboto** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:19 am

We need someone to measure the power draw versus some intel quads. Anandtech's power readings are promising, but I'd like to see some more in depth measurements from xbit or spcr.