AMD 235e v. Athlon64 X2 3600+ Brisbane
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AMD 235e v. Athlon64 X2 3600+ Brisbane
I have the Brisbane uv to 1.008v. I upped the FSB to 220, so 2.2GHz. It seems fast enough for what I do with the computer, surfing and HTPC and no gaming.
Would the AM3 235e, 2.7 GHz and 45w and 4000mhz hyper transport and 2mb cache, use less power, but also offer a noticeably snappier performance?
Or is this a sideways step? It would be in a Biostar 785GE. I wonder if the 4000 HT would make cleaner Flash videos? Sometimes I see artifacts, but this could be the monitor or any number of things not related to cpu.
Would the AM3 235e, 2.7 GHz and 45w and 4000mhz hyper transport and 2mb cache, use less power, but also offer a noticeably snappier performance?
Or is this a sideways step? It would be in a Biostar 785GE. I wonder if the 4000 HT would make cleaner Flash videos? Sometimes I see artifacts, but this could be the monitor or any number of things not related to cpu.
You may want to also consider the AMD Athlon II X2 250. I would like to know how the X2 235e compares to the X2 250.
These CPU's are within $4.00 of one another. The X2 235e is a 2.7 GHZ part with TDP of 45 watts. The X2 250 is 3.0 GHZ but has a TDP of 65 watts. The X2 250 is faster. Does it use much more power in real world tests? (does it use 20 more watts as the TDP would have one believe?). I am personally upgrading from an old AMD64 3000+ at 89 watts TDP...so any improvement is going to be positive, but, I'd like the best speed and value for the money while using the least amount of power.
I also need advice on a low power/efficient HTPC capable MB for use with an AM3 CPU.
These CPU's are within $4.00 of one another. The X2 235e is a 2.7 GHZ part with TDP of 45 watts. The X2 250 is 3.0 GHZ but has a TDP of 65 watts. The X2 250 is faster. Does it use much more power in real world tests? (does it use 20 more watts as the TDP would have one believe?). I am personally upgrading from an old AMD64 3000+ at 89 watts TDP...so any improvement is going to be positive, but, I'd like the best speed and value for the money while using the least amount of power.
I also need advice on a low power/efficient HTPC capable MB for use with an AM3 CPU.
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I wonder how the 235e compares to an undervolted 250 for power usage and coolage. I never UV'd until recently, but it seems to work well.
On a related note, while the computer seems fast enough I am starting to not like how it is slower when working with numbers. While I use the machine for HTPC I also use it for SOHO , like taxes and spreadsheets. I guess I am getting spoiled and just want the results to show up instantaneously.
On a related note, while the computer seems fast enough I am starting to not like how it is slower when working with numbers. While I use the machine for HTPC I also use it for SOHO , like taxes and spreadsheets. I guess I am getting spoiled and just want the results to show up instantaneously.
i actually had a 250 and 240, and have a 235e now.loimlo wrote:If you're willing to undervolt on your own, 250 seems to be a better choice. Otherwise, 235e is a 45W cpu for people who don't like to make their hands dirty.
the 235e at idle still uses a couple less watts somehow even when i undervolted the 240.
its not very significant though.
Maybe 2~3W? If so, that's very similar to the difference between 65nm 45W vs 65W dual-core Athlon X2.hans007 wrote:i actually had a 250 and 240, and have a 235e now.loimlo wrote:If you're willing to undervolt on your own, 250 seems to be a better choice. Otherwise, 235e is a 45W cpu for people who don't like to make their hands dirty.
the 235e at idle still uses a couple less watts somehow even when i undervolted the 240.
its not very significant though.
i think it was 2W on the kill-a-watt, but my power supply isnt solid state or anything, so its probably actually less than 2W at idle.loimlo wrote:Maybe 2~3W? If so, that's very similar to the difference between 65nm 45W vs 65W dual-core Athlon X2.hans007 wrote:i actually had a 250 and 240, and have a 235e now.loimlo wrote:If you're willing to undervolt on your own, 250 seems to be a better choice. Otherwise, 235e is a 45W cpu for people who don't like to make their hands dirty.
the 235e at idle still uses a couple less watts somehow even when i undervolted the 240.
its not very significant though.
i undervolted the regular 240 to 1.175 V i think from what i remember. almost all the new athlon ii chips can do that (i did this with an x4 620 also and it lowered the load power by something like 20W)