New Zalman 600W Modular PSU

PSUs: The source of DC power for all components in the PC & often a big noise source.

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Post by Tibors » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:29 pm

frankgehry wrote:They're both attemps, successful or not, to make quiet high power 120mm power supplies.
Sorry, you are looking from too far away. They are adressing both a different problem as I pointed out above. Therefore it is not usefull to compare them.
frankgehry wrote:Do all 120mm power supplies have dead spots in front that need extra cooling?
You have a box with a big opening in the bottom were air gets blown in. A big opening in the back as the only significant place were it can leave. Yes, they all have a problem with dead spots. That's simple geometry. On top of that take a look at some power supplies from different manufacturers. The components are all placed approximately in the same place.

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Post by frankgehry » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:23 pm

Your first post claims the zalman uses the same pcb layout as the 80mm fsp models. Your last post claims all psu layouts are essentially the same anyway. You don't seem to have a consistent point of view.

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Post by Tibors » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:43 pm

Your last post completely makes no sense.

In my first post I stated that 80mm fanned PSU's and 120mm use the same PCB's. If you got any capacity for comprehensive reading, you see that in that post I am talking about the SIZE of PCB's. I didn't use the name of fsp at all. Simply because this is true for the majority of the PSU's on the market.

This is in no way contradictory with the fact that in 120mm fannned PSU's the components are all placed approximately in the same place ON the PCB.

It looks like you are searching for things to disagree with me, while there are no good ones to find.

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Post by frankgehry » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:43 am

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Seasonic M12 500W


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FSP Epsilon 700W

The placement of components in these two power supplies are not approximately in the same place. They don't use the same components and they don't use the same heatsinks.
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Post by EndoSteel » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:45 am

As I can see, the heatpipe assembly only extends the rightmost heatsink (the hottest spot in an Epsilon), probably to level it's temperature with two other sinks at the same aiflow (normally they are about 10C cooler). In other words it's an improved version of FSP's original extension (thick alu plate bolted to the PSU case), nothing more.

P.S. Fins are spaced too closely :).

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Post by Tibors » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:13 pm

Frank, which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

If somebody makes generalisations, it is always possible to find an example were the generalisation doesn't hold true. That doesn't make the generalisation invalid or useless.

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Post by OCC_Yoda » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:23 pm

thats what I like about SPCR forums...nobody really has a clue.....
Just becuase you don`t understand why something is done is no reason to call it bling......
You peps really amaze me....


Wait for the reviews to come out before trying to make sense of what is very obvious to me that you peeps know jack about!!

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Post by nici » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:41 am

Im not even going to respond to that, don't you have anything smarter to do than register on this forum to call us idiots? :roll:

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Post by qviri » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:26 am

Are they going to make a Fatal1ty vers1on?

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Post by nici » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:19 am

I almost got carried away... Sure, it will have a 140mm fan, with blindingly bright red leds naturally, running at a fixed speed of 3400RPM, with an initial start-up voltage of 14V to make it really howl at start-up. The power cables will also glow in the dark, and all connectors have an autograph and a mugshot of this FataliTy1! guy, obviously the autograph and his eyes are blinking too, in red. It also comes with it's own external power-supply to power the lights. It also has a big, red, blinking button on the the case of the PSU, when you push it fataliTyYt1 speaks in 1337!!! :roll:

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Post by rpsgc » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:43 am

nici wrote:I almost got carried away... Sure, it will have a 140mm fan, with blindingly bright red leds naturally, running at a fixed speed of 3400RPM, with an initial start-up voltage of 14V to make it really howl at start-up. The power cables will also glow in the dark, and all connectors have an autograph and a mugshot of this FataliTy1! guy, obviously the autograph and his eyes are blinking too, in red. It also comes with it's own external power-supply to power the lights. It also has a big, red, blinking button on the the case of the PSU, when you push it fataliTyYt1 speaks in 1337!!! :roll:
*ahem* you forgot the mind-blowing, seizure-inducing BLINKIN RED LEDS OF DEWM!! Mwahaha !! :twisted:

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Post by boardsportsrule » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:00 pm

and for sale

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/ ... s_id=20787

tempting but not for the price :s

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Post by wwenze » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:44 pm

nici wrote:I almost got carried away... Sure, it will have a 140mm fan, with blindingly bright red leds naturally, running at a fixed speed of 3400RPM, with an initial start-up voltage of 14V to make it really howl at start-up. The power cables will also glow in the dark, and all connectors have an autograph and a mugshot of this FataliTy1! guy, obviously the autograph and his eyes are blinking too, in red. It also comes with it's own external power-supply to power the lights. It also has a big, red, blinking button on the the case of the PSU, when you push it fataliTyYt1 speaks in 1337!!! :roll:

The last "feature" may not be economically (or common-sensibly) feasible, but they can add a button that raises the fan speed to make the fan growl and make the rig feel hardcore like some OCZ PSUs. Heck, throw in the overvoltage options.
Then when the game is playing, player pushes button so computer can get extra juice out of PSU for the increased load, telling others that their PSUs are inferior and going to blow up soon. The button also serves as self-destruct which forces a draw when needed, sometimes it is auto. Nobody blames PSU because it has f4+aL!+y brand on it, player can then boasts that his com is too superior and powerful.

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Post by mantralord » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:55 pm

OCC_Yoda wrote:thats what I like about SPCR forums...nobody really has a clue.....
Just becuase you don`t understand why something is done is no reason to call it bling......
You peps really amaze me....


Wait for the reviews to come out before trying to make sense of what is very obvious to me that you peeps know jack about!!
Go back to [H]ardOCP and English 101.

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Post by Howard » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:04 pm

mantralord wrote:
OCC_Yoda wrote:thats what I like about SPCR forums...nobody really has a clue.....
Just becuase you don`t understand why something is done is no reason to call it bling......
You peps really amaze me....


Wait for the reviews to come out before trying to make sense of what is very obvious to me that you peeps know jack about!!
Go back to [H]ardOCP and English 101.
Don't feed the trolls, please. :)

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Post by rpsgc » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:17 am

First review.

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Post by nici » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:00 am

Based on that it seems to be a decent PSU, wich is to be expected, but that review does not explain how much good the heatpipe thingie does.

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Post by EsaT » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:39 am

Now if they would have just tested it!
Power draw of their test machine is such light that using that to say anything about effectiveness of cooling or stability of rails is completely irrelevant. Even GPU is extremely low end model, at least they could have used ATI's top end cards!

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Post by Chris Chan » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:50 pm

They didn't even open it up either!

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:13 am

Hello,

Another review at Tech ARP. Eh -- wimpy "reveiw", and their sample had a small dent. :oops:

It does include a 12v/5v 3-pin fan connector (woo-hoo!), and it might be made by Fortron Source:
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(purely a guess based on the 'W/NOISE KILLER' sticker...)

They don't open it up either -- or even use it in a system... :roll:

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Post by jaganath » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:01 am

They don't open it up either -- or even use it in a system...
LOL, that's like "testing" a car by looking at it in the showroom..... :roll:

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Post by nici » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:41 am

Well i know people who choose a car because it's small and red :lol:

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Post by jaganath » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:09 am

nici wrote:Well i know people who choose a car because it's small and red :lol:
They wouldn't be women by any chance? :lol:

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Post by nici » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:11 am

What on earth gave you that idea? :mrgreen:

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Post by EsaT » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:15 am

NeilBlanchard wrote:Another review at Tech ARP. Eh -- wimpy "reveiw", and their sample had a small dent. :oops:
I wonder which list would be longer, list of erroneous statements or list of things gotten right.

Damn lousy ripple figures...
In ATX specification those are 50mV for 3.3 and 5V and 120mv for 12V.

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Post by rpsgc » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:41 pm

Since a SPCR review is out, no need to continue discussion here ;)
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