Samsung 1TB F1 vs Western Digital 1TB GP vs Hitachi 7k1000

miTchy · Post by **miTchy** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:29 am

pre-order for uk people
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=940

nick705 · Post by **nick705** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:43 am

miTchy wrote:pre-order for uk people
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... subcat=940

Looks like typical OCUK price gouging for pre-orders - I'll lay odds that as soon as they actually have it in stock, it'll be available elsewhere for Â£30-Â£40 less, and they'll cut their own prices as well...

silentbobbo · Post by **silentbobbo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:04 am

nick705 wrote:Looks like typical OCUK price gouging for pre-orders - I'll lay odds that as soon as they actually have it in stock, it'll be available elsewhere for Â£30-Â£40 less, and they'll cut their own prices as well...

Truly an OCUK-UP!

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:27 am

So we have now roughly 5 months from the announced day and still the product is nowhere.
I doubt that I'll be able to buy one this year.

gb115b · Post by **gb115b** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:46 pm

i've already pre-ordered (has been for a few weeks)

but will cancel if it doesn't materialize soon...

gb115b · Post by **gb115b** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:41 am

cancelled

7 WDs on their way...

silentbobbo · Post by **silentbobbo** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:31 am

I read like November 20th for the Samsung. Time will tell.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:09 pm

STOP THE PRESS:

Samsung 1TB SATA F1 HD103UJ 7200 32mb

Listed in the United States:

http://www.google.com/products?q=HD103UJ&scoring=p

Available NOW in the European Union:

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http% ... en&ie=UTF8

Also available NOW in Australia

http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prod ... duct=20002

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:16 am

Hmmm, the 750 and 1000 models (32 MB cache) are listed to some local store in Romania, and they say it'll be available in 4 days.

http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/hard ... nsiune-35/

Prices in are ~195 euro for 750 version and ~288.5 euro for 1000 version (including VAT).

PASware · Post by **PASware** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:49 pm

Here in Holland we have a couple of internetstore's that sells the 1TB Samsung, but most of them have it pre-order.
1 of the biggest shops Sallandautomatisering says it's arriving time is between 1 and 10 days, but I dont believe it. because al other shops have it on pre-order.

But the prices are nice here:
1TB 16mb: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/159170/s ... 102uj.html
1TB 32mb: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/159171/s ... j-1tb.html

The first in the list (Hardware Versand) is a german shop, so the prices in germany are even lower. In holland the lowest price is just above 260 euro.

The cheapast 1TB disk in Holland:
WD GP: 240 euro

Not a big diference

continuum · Post by **continuum** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:33 pm

All still pre-order, ugh.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:56 pm

Check my posts. Available NOW!

nick705 · Post by **nick705** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:48 am

SileX wrote:Check my posts. Available NOW!

Have you actually had one delivered, or do you know of anyone else who has?

klankymen · Post by **klankymen** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:12 am

exactly. I won't believe it until it
a) shows up on newegg
b) is listed as actually as available, as opposed to on back order, on geizhals.at (in other words, the fourth column contains a green colored field)
c) someone on spcr actually owns one.

it's unbelievable how often a retailer claims to have something, however at a very high price often, and then people order, and then the shop claims they are sold out and waiting for new stock - so people get them at the same time as from the honest stores, but pay a premium.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:15 am

IT IS IN THE WILD:

http://forums.storagereview.net/index.p ... &start=100

AMAZING. NOT ONLY 1 TB BUT 1.5 TB!!!

Original Chinese:
http://product.ccidnet.com/art/6589/200 ... 941_1.html

English Translation:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http% ... en&ie=UTF8

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:30 am

what are the specifications for 1.5 TB model ? 5 platters ?

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:36 am

After reading the article I've found out that will be an 4 platters model, so I think 4x375. Not bad if it's true.

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:37 am

In this case the 750 model will use 2x375 GB ?

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:44 am

Actually, Samsung could offer a 3.5-inch 2TB disk if they wanted. Sure they have it in the lab.

sheninat0r · Post by **sheninat0r** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:39 pm

Umm... i bet most hard drive makers have some prototypes with crazy capacity that they could release... but that doesn't mean that it's going to happen, or that the 3.5-inch 2TB drives wouldn't cost >$1000. [/i]

IdontexistM8 · Post by **IdontexistM8** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:48 pm

Well all this wait for the higher sized Sammys has made me just buy two more HD501LJs...they say patience is a virtue.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:34 pm

sheninat0r wrote:Umm... i bet most hard drive makers have some prototypes with crazy capacity that they could release... but that doesn't mean that it's going to happen, or that the 3.5-inch 2TB drives wouldn't cost >$1000. [/i]

I meant with 5 platters (as has Hitachi). Samsung could do it right now on the market.

marius7 · Post by **marius7** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:41 am

FIRST BENCHMARK !!!!!!!!!

http://magicjw.byus.net/zbxe/apim_freeboard/76911

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:15 am

WOW!!!

Translation from Korean to English:

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http% ... en&ie=UTF8

sheninat0r · Post by **sheninat0r** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:07 pm

That's extremely impressive... does this mean they're entering the retail channel soon?

klankymen · Post by **klankymen** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:29 pm

yes. they are entering the retail channel soon. ...with a crowbar.

no seriously, I have high hopes this drive will be released before christmas.

SileX · Post by **SileX** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:33 am

For the first time in history, available here at SIX retailers:

SAMSUNG SpinPoint F1 (HD103UJ), 1.0TB
available immediately
The dealer has this product on stock
http://en.toppreise.ch/prod_117902.html

Now, the fun has just started!

sheninat0r · Post by **sheninat0r** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:34 pm

klankymen wrote:yes. they are entering the retail channel soon. ...with a crowbar.

Haha, my sig always draws this kind of attention.

PASware · Post by **PASware** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:34 pm

marius7 wrote:FIRST BENCHMARK !!!!!!!!!

http://magicjw.byus.net/zbxe/apim_freeboard/76911

That's very very nice, but I have expected this kind of performance.

Hitachi 7k1000: 72.8MB/s @ 200gb platter
Barracuda 11: 87.2MB/s @ 250gb platter

Diference of 15MB/s for 50gb. Draw the line and see my thoughts

sailorman · Post by **sailorman** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:42 am

i 'm looking for HDDs to built a RAID 5 array of total storage capacity around 2TB.
i was reading the whole topic here for an hour, trying to find out what kind of HDDs is the best and i have no concluded yet.

Finally, is the Samsung SpinPoint F1 HD103UJ (1 TB - intern - 3.5" - SATA-300 - 7200 rpm - Buffer: 32 MB) the best available HDD today, from reliability/speed/noise point of view?

the cost here in Germany is 269 Euro (~380$) eachone
and limited availability.