Samsung EcoGreen F2 1.5 TB - Have anyone tried it?

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Samsung EcoGreen F2 1.5 TB - Have anyone tried it?

Post by blunden » Tue May 12, 2009 10:25 am

I just noticed that PixMania (seems like a crap store unfortunately) has started selling this drive now for a reasonable price in Sweden (shipped from France). Has anyone tried them? I'm looking for a drive to replace my 200GB Samsung drive (SP2004C). Since I'm very happy with my two 500GB (HD510LJ) and my 1 TB (HD103UJ) drives I'm looking for Samsung HDD again.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/ ... &ppmi=1170#

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6799 ... d/Reviews/

From the review it seems to have a pretty decent write and read speed for a 5400 rpm drive. Not as good as the F1 1 TB though. I'm interested to know if anyone have tried it yet?

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Post by mac79 » Tue May 12, 2009 11:10 am

Would You like to know precisely about 1,5TB model or generally about F2 serie ?

Here You have topics about F2:
500GB
viewtopic.php?t=51496

1TB
viewtopic.php?t=53204

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Post by blunden » Tue May 12, 2009 1:28 pm

mac79 wrote:Would You like to know precisely about 1,5TB model or generally about F2 serie ?

Here You have topics about F2:
500GB
viewtopic.php?t=51496

1TB
viewtopic.php?t=53204
I was wondering of somone had used it. First I thought it was still just a paper launch. I read a bit about the 500 GB model, probably the first of your links. I'll check out the thread about the 1 TB one though. :)

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Post by Fred » Wed May 13, 2009 6:13 am

I mailed inet.se about the F2 HDD's. They said that they will most likely get them, but their distributor had no date for when that would happen (so most likely not in a while).
I guess i'll be waiting until they get it... my brother tells me not to trust pixmania. : P

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Post by Wibla » Wed May 13, 2009 7:01 am

Yea, dont use pixmania, they are crap. seen alot of trouble with them, no respect for consumer protection laws in norway/sweden for one...

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Post by blunden » Wed May 13, 2009 12:49 pm

Fred wrote:I mailed inet.se about the F2 HDD's. They said that they will most likely get them, but their distributor had no date for when that would happen (so most likely not in a while).
I guess i'll be waiting until they get it... my brother tells me not to trust pixmania. : P
Nice. Free shipping for Sweclockers members from inet is always nice. :) I think I'll mail Dustin and Webhallen and see what they say.

Has no one gotten one of these yet? :(

EDIT: I mailed Dustin, Webhallen and Komplett.

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Post by blunden » Thu May 14, 2009 9:46 am

Dustin said they will get them in early/middle of June. :)

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Post by Fred » Thu May 14, 2009 2:28 pm

Ah, cool. Not to far away. :)

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Post by blunden » Thu May 14, 2009 3:50 pm

Fred wrote:Ah, cool. Not to far away. :)
Yeah, hopefully soon. :) I forgot to say that Komplett didn't know if or when they would get them at this time.

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Post by Mr. B » Sun May 17, 2009 3:24 pm

Great to hear there's another 1.5tb drive on the market... especially since Seagate's 7200.11 disaster drive only has one direct competitor.

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Post by _MarcoM_ » Sun May 17, 2009 9:15 pm

I am sure that your own review/opinion on this hard disk would be really appreciated :wink: :)

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Post by Fred » Wed May 20, 2009 12:08 pm

Dustin now has them listed, not in stock though.

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Post by blunden » Fri May 22, 2009 3:49 pm

Fred wrote:Dustin now has them listed, not in stock though.
Yeah, I noticed that. The price is a bit higher as well. I'll wait until they have them in stock at least. If some of the other stores got them too it would be even nicer though as we might see some competitive pricing then hopefully. :)

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Post by blunden » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:20 pm

Some store called Teknikhallen claims to have it in stock now. :) I've never shopped from them before though.

http://www.teknikhallen.se/computing/st ... a-300.html

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Post by Ksanderash » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:02 am

Three Samsung drives participating in "Hard Drives, Yesterday And Today: From 500 GB To 1.5 TB" at THG.

2007: 500 GB Spinpoint T166 (HD501LJ)
2008: 1000 GB Spinpoint F1 EcoGreen (HD103UI)
2009: 1500 GB Spinpoint F2 EcoGreen (HD154UI)

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Post by sampo » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:51 am

My quick impressions: with case open and drive sitting on floor idle noise is easily audible. Noise character is pleasant and perceivable volume is a bit higher than Antec Tricool@5v.

If you have very low noise fan(s), you'll want to take the last step. With drive placed into Scythe box, idle noise becomes almost inaudible. With this setup I found seek/write noises a bit annoing. Somehow Samsung seeks feel a bit rough when compared to WD Blue. I'm not sure that would I want to use Samsung as a system drive, but it seems to make a very silent storage drive when paired with hdd box.

Some benches with drive almost full, AAM@128:

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Post by Fred » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:28 am

It's finally available in sweden. Semi hefty price tag, or maybe i'ts just me being stingy. :D

In any case, I think I'll wait and see if it gets a lower price. Or when my 29.5GB worth of free space runs out. :P

Edit: Ack, the price increased with 38usd now.

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Post by SleepyBum » Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:24 pm

The Samsung 1.5TB is finally listed at Newegg. Price isn't too bad, but I'll wait a bit for a sale... Hopefully, it'll drop to $110 or less. Right now it's at $119.99 with free ship.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F2EG HD154UI 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Retail

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Post by frny » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:17 pm

It is listed at 7200 rpm - is this a typo? (I thought all the F2 ecogreen were 5400).
$119 is a great price, only $20 more than the 1TB.

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Post by user » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:24 am

Yep 5400rpm.
I receive two of them HD154UI (1,500,301,910,016 bytes)
Cold and silent. It used as data holder, max. performance not needed.

Before using hdisks in production, check the whole hdisk for bad blocks.
I use # badblocks -swv /dev/<fresh new disk without data yet>

But sadly, one of two has too much errors for my taste:

Code: Select all

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   098   098   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       93
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   100   100   015    Pre-fail  Offline      -       12933
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       8892
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   067   065   000    Old_age   Always       -       33 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/35)
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   068   063   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/37)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       93
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   099   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       50
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1
I will raise a RMA ticket.

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Post by tkorsvold » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:44 am

The Samsung 1.5TB is looking good, but I'm still unsure of the noise - would it be much worse than the 500GB edition?



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Post by MikeC » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:25 am

tkorsvold wrote:The Samsung 1.5TB is looking good, but I'm still unsure of the noise - would it be much worse than the 500GB edition?
It has to be noisier. 3 platters vs 1. How much? Hard to say, Samsung's own specs state 2.2/2.7 bels idle/seek for the 500gb, 2.5/2.8 bels for 1.5tb. Suggests at least 3 dBA/1m louder at idle, 1 dBA+ in seek -- possibly more, because bels power and dBA/1m do not correlate linearly.

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Post by JazzJackRabbit » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:36 am

user wrote:Yep 5400rpm.
I receive two of them HD154UI (1,500,301,910,016 bytes)
Cold and silent. It used as data holder, max. performance not needed.

Before using hdisks in production, check the whole hdisk for bad blocks.
I use # badblocks -swv /dev/<fresh new disk without data yet>

But sadly, one of two has too much errors for my taste:

Code: Select all

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   098   098   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       93
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   100   100   015    Pre-fail  Offline      -       12933
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       8892
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   067   065   000    Old_age   Always       -       33 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/35)
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   068   063   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/37)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       93
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   099   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       50
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       1
I will raise a RMA ticket.
I always had trouble reading SMART attributes. Which attribute are you talking about? Are you talking about Reallocated Sector count or Reported_Uncorrect?

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Post by Mr. B » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:20 pm

I just thought I'd chime in real quick. I bought two of these things to replace some Samsung HD501LJ drives and I'm very happy with the (lack of) noise coming from both drives. They are admirably quiet. The seek noise is audible at close distances but not offensive. Any sound they make while spinning is of no consequence whatsoever.

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Post by robbie13 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:58 pm

Cant wait to replace my drives with a 1TB EcoGreen :)

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Post by blunden » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:45 am

user wrote:Yep 5400rpm.
I receive two of them HD154UI (1,500,301,910,016 bytes)
Cold and silent. It used as data holder, max. performance not needed.

Before using hdisks in production, check the whole hdisk for bad blocks.
I use # badblocks -swv /dev/<fresh new disk without data yet>

[...]

I will raise a RMA ticket.
Did the other drive report any reallocated sectors?

EDIT: It's now available from WeSellCD in Sweden as well. They listed the cache wrong though, 16MB instead of 32MB but they called it HD154UI. If it was 16MB it should be called HD153UI according to samsung. I emailed the store about it though. We'll see what they say.

EDIT 2: They fixed it now. :)
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Post by echn111 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:17 pm

Got one of these 5400rpm F2's and it sounds fairly quiet so far. Going to compare them to the F1's later but first impression is that it is at least as quiet if not more.

As for Pixmania, never had any problems with them and I have ordered significant items like Pioneer plasma TV's, i7 CPU's etc. But I only buy from them based on cost - I'm UK based so the Pixmania European prices were relatively good.

p.s. it's £76.81 including tax, from scan.co.uk. And if you have the free shipping option that's all you pay.

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Post by blunden » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:49 am

echn111 wrote:Got one of these 5400rpm F2's and it sounds fairly quiet so far. Going to compare them to the F1's later but first impression is that it is at least as quiet if not more.

As for Pixmania, never had any problems with them and I have ordered significant items like Pioneer plasma TV's, i7 CPU's etc. But I only buy from them based on cost - I'm UK based so the Pixmania European prices were relatively good.

p.s. it's £76.81 including tax, from scan.co.uk. And if you have the free shipping option that's all you pay.
It says you have two of them in link in your sig. Did both arrive without SMART-errors? :)

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Post by trxman » Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:58 pm

very interesting test:

Life After 1 TB: Seven Hard Disk Drives with 1.5 TB and 2 TB Storage Capacity


btw, is that true that Samsung drives often comes with few reallocated sectors?

:roll:

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