Thermalright XP-120

HokieESM · Post by **HokieESM** » Fri May 28, 2004 7:08 am

Saw this review of theThermalright XP-120 at SystemCooling. Yes, its supports a 120mm fan. yes its huge. Its made of all aluminum, however... and supposedly weighs 250 grams less than the SP-94 (so it can utilize the standard P4 clips!). Interesting. No reviews yet... although, the people at System Cooling state that it outperforms the SP-94.[/url]

Sledge · Post by **Sledge** » Fri May 28, 2004 8:11 am

I hope they make an Athlon64 version.

ChucuSCAD · Post by **ChucuSCAD** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:01 pm

WOW that is a monster....... an all copper version would slick.
(updates my xmas wish list)

chucuSCAD

Skylined · Post by **Skylined** » Fri May 28, 2004 1:35 pm

V E R Y N I C E !

bcassell · Post by **bcassell** » Fri May 28, 2004 1:40 pm

ChucuSCAD wrote:...... an all copper version would slick.

An all copper version would exceed the weight restrictions for most highways! =P

Bryan

Edward Ng · Post by **Edward Ng** » Fri May 28, 2004 2:05 pm

*DROOL*

ChucuSCAD · Post by **ChucuSCAD** » Fri May 28, 2004 2:37 pm

bcassell wrote:An all copper version would exceed the weight restrictions for most highways! =P

Bryan

Thats ok I will toss an extra set of wheels on my PC-V2000 and call it good, might have to add some structural reinforcement to my floor boards though...

LOL!.

chucuSCAD

hydroxyhydride · Post by **hydroxyhydride** » Fri May 28, 2004 3:29 pm

That looks awesome. I was planning on an Alpha for my next cooler b/c i'm itching for some CPU exhaust duct lovin but...damn thats a crazy cooler. I wonder if it'll fit an A64.

Skylined · Post by **Skylined** » Fri May 28, 2004 3:39 pm

It's a prototype, so I think they'll be smart enough to release an AMD version.

tay · Post by **tay** » Fri May 28, 2004 5:43 pm

massive!!! Great potential in LARGE cases.

sorenbro · Post by **sorenbro** » Sat May 29, 2004 1:06 am

From the pictures it doesn't even look like you need a massive case to accomodate this heatsink, just a motherboard with the right layout, ie with the CPU not too close to the top of the motherboard, or else it would have difficulty fitting with the PSU

shathal · Post by **shathal** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:53 am

Now I only see certain problems with NB's being passively cooled (like my Intel D875PBZ) ... HUGE ... but, I think, "bigger + quieter" is the way forward. Seems neat

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1398342003 · Post by **1398342003** » Sat May 29, 2004 9:43 am

Anyone else think it was designed for the Presshots massively high wattage?

shathal · Post by **shathal** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:39 am

You mean, the current ones and the higher GHz ranges to come yet?

Shhhhheerly not

.

And don't call me Shirley

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Edward Ng · Post by **Edward Ng** » Sat May 29, 2004 11:40 am

While you could say that, I am not entirely convinced. There's no reason why an SP-94, as it is, couldn't safely handle Prescott's high thermals.

No, I'm more convinced it's to deal with the competition. Thermalright has built the XP-120 to beat Cooler Master's Hyper-6, Aeroflow's HT-101, Zalman's CNPS-7000(A)-(Al)Cu, Swiftech's MCX-478(V), Thermaltake's Tower112, Heatlane'z Zen, Vantec's Aeroflow 2, you name it; this is designed to beat them all down with a stick. After all, up until very recently, I myself was convinced that SP-94 was king, but that only lasts so long, and so came a myriad other products that had the potential to beat SP-94, or did it outright, as Hyper 6 supposedly does.

The king doesn't like losing his throne, and he's here to take it back. This time with a heatsink that not only outperforms SP-94 and its competition, but also outweighs them (which, in this case, means weighing less, not more); as for price, that we shall have to see, but knowing Thermalright's past pricing, this aluminum sink should be an outstanding value, compared to their all-copper models. Of course, I could be wrong on the last item; conceivably, they could price this according to performance, and not materials, and in that case, charge more (most!) for this model; let's hope they don't! If the XP-120 is priced competitively against opponents like the Hyper-6, not only would it mean the revenue comes to Thermalright, but it also means it won't go to Cooler Master, and although that's a very not nice way to think about it, this is competition, after all.

-Ed

luminous · Post by **luminous** » Sat May 29, 2004 2:41 pm

I'm a little surprised that they have not included a better mounting method for the fan on the HSF. 120mm fans have a lot of torque that you would not want to transmit through the mobo. A small rubber padded area to mount the fan on could help reduce this.

I'm not the only user of Thermalright HSF's that have attempted to decouple their fans from the HSF's to help reduce system vibration. It can also help reduce any resonance between the fan and the HSF.

Come on Thermalright - its a new product, give us a new fan mounting method ! After all, you really want to dish the competition !

Edward Ng · Post by **Edward Ng** » Sat May 29, 2004 2:44 pm

I do agree on that; I have attempted to utilize Vantec and Antec NoiseKiller isolation frames, but Thermalright's supremely fine manufacturing (actually, that's a good thing

) makes the tolerances too tight to fit the thin silicone wraps in, so if I did use them, the fan was off-kilt.

-Ed

hitman47 · Post by **hitman47** » Sat May 29, 2004 3:47 pm

shathal wrote:Now I only see certain problems with NB's being passively cooled (like my Intel D875PBZ) ... HUGE ... but, I think, "bigger + quieter" is the way forward. Seems neat .

About the northbridge problem - it just occured to me that the Athlon64 nForce3 boards would not suffer from this problem, as the single chipset design is located far from the processor socket.

Best Regards

daba · Post by **daba** » Sat May 29, 2004 4:33 pm

Wow, it's so beautiful :')

luggage · Post by **luggage** » Sat May 29, 2004 4:47 pm

No copper core/baseplate tho - or am I seeing wrong?

Edward Ng · Post by **Edward Ng** » Sat May 29, 2004 5:06 pm

luggage -- You're seeing right.

daba -- Yes it is!!!

hitman47 -- It's for P4, not K8, so yes, it could be an issue for many boards with taller northbridge coolers, if the northbridge is closer to the CPU.

-Ed

Nebor · Post by **Nebor** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:01 pm

Anyone think this thing will fit on an IC7-G w/ a Zalman northbridge? It's the gold, same height across heatsink...

intx · Post by **intx** » Sat May 29, 2004 6:56 pm

at that price i'd assume all copper, while nice, would be really expensive.

I think it's time they start following the trend and try an AlCopper

Edward Ng · Post by **Edward Ng** » Sat May 29, 2004 7:04 pm

All copper, while better performing, would be significantly heavier, and I believe lighter weight is an advantage that Thermalright wishes to tout with this new design.

I am not sure I've yet seen Thermalright produce hybrid sinks; it would appear to me that they prefer, if possible to machine the entire sink out of a single piece of metal, and not have to deal with bonding/joining or sealing two pieces together. This also appears to be the first skived-fin Al sink I've seen from them; all their past Al parts were straight cut; their copper pieces are normally skived, however.

My experience is almost exclusive to their newer models (began with the SLK-900A), so if they had straight cut copper or skived aluminum or hybrid sinks in the past, then I wouldn't be surprised, but they must've been before I caught on to the Thermalright scene.

-Ed

Nowhere_man · Post by **Nowhere_man** » Sat May 29, 2004 8:41 pm

I like it. Aluminum is a good choice with the 5 heatpipes.

I did notice that in the "preview" test setup it appears to be mounted upside down on the motherboard. It would have probably worked even better with the curve of the heatpipes at orientated to the bottom or side of the case. Even with an internal wick, the working fluid inside the heatpipes is working against gravity in that position.

I wouldn't think they'd cost more than the SP-94 when introduced with a drop a few months later after the new wears off.

hitman47 · Post by **hitman47** » Sun May 30, 2004 2:40 pm

Edward Ng wrote:hitman47 -- It's for P4, not K8, so yes, it could be an issue for many boards with taller northbridge coolers, if the northbridge is closer to the CPU.-Ed

Sorry, I meant that if (and hopefully when) the Thermalright XP-120 supports the K8, we would see fewer or perhaps no such northbridge problems.

Best Regards

mynameisyoung · Post by **mynameisyoung** » Sun May 30, 2004 3:11 pm

Edward Ng wrote:I am not sure I've yet seen Thermalright produce hybrid sinks

I believe the alx-800 is hybrid, even the old and very popular ax-7 was a hybrid.

And the alx-800 has been very successful on the market.
It might not be a great heatsink by our silent standards but it's highly used on many overclocking forums.

So I wouldn't be surpised to see the final outcome of this product to be a hybrid.

icancam · Post by **icancam** » Sun May 30, 2004 4:42 pm

More pictures along with another monster heatsink from 1A-Cooling.
http://www.madshrimps.be/forums/showthr ... eadid=5342

CRT_Leech · Post by **CRT_Leech** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:33 pm

He updated the page.

As I suspected from viewing the images, it's actually made from nickel plated copper, with Aluminum fins, though, the fins look like nickel plated copper, as well, in my opinion.

Another reason for thinking the fins are nickel plated copper, the base plate and fins are made from a sandwich of plates, from the looks of it and machined to look like one piece:

http://www.systemcooling.com/images/rev ... pe2_lg.jpg

If they are aluminum, I would imagine that they would be really easy to bend, being so thin.

There are some holes drilled through the base plate, for the heatpipes, which is probably where they saved a good deal of weight, in which you can see the layers.

I'll be getting one as soon as it's available, along with another Panaflo 120mm L1A.

Keyoh · Post by **Keyoh** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:30 pm

Just in case anyone was wondering, I contacted thermalright to get a release date and they said it should available by the end of the month.

Thermalright XP-120

Thermalright XP-120

It's actually Nickel plated copper w/aluminum fins