Scythe Ninja on an Antec P150 Case (Pictures?)

[oscar3d]

Hi folks:

I currently have a Zalman CNPS9500 installed on my Antec P150 Case.
Using fan mate, I run the Zalman Fan @ 1580 RPM (which is silent but not enough) and I'm getting CPU temps of 37C Idle and 54C Load (this is a Pentium 4 Prescott 3.8Ghz)

I've heard so many good things about the Scythe Ninja (about how silent it is with a Nexus 120 Super Silent Fan) that I've decided to order one.
I want to try it.

However, since I have an Antec P150 with a Tri-Cool fan. I wonder where should I place the 120 Nexus Fan. (I wonder if there is enough space) to do something like:




I've changed the P150 PSU (the NEoHE) and placed a Seasonic S-12 500, which is my favorite (it has an intake 120mm fan on its bottom)

I'm not pretty sure the Ninja would survive doing passive mode on this 3.8 G Prescott. So I think the Nexus 120mm fan is a must, though I don't know which is the best way to place it.

In the SPCR review of the Antec P150 Case they say that they did two tests of this case with a Scythe Ninja (one w/o fan and one with fan). They do show a picture of the fanless configuration, but I do want to see how they put the Nexus fan on it (they show no picture)



I guess this question goes also to the Sonata II Owners, since both cases are almost the same (They have Tri-Cool Exhaust Fans).

Can you please tell me your experience with the Scyhte Ninja? Also if you know a link to pictures about Sonata or P150 configurations involving a Scyhte Ninja?

Any info would be extremely valuable.

Thank you guys!!

[spolitta]

Switch the Tricool with the Nexus 120 and then instal the Tricool on the right side of the Ninja.

[oscar3d]

It doesn't fit in the space between the Tri-Cool and the Ninja right?

Do you have it like that? What are your CPU temps?

Thanks

[spolitta]

I dont know if it fits or not depends on your mobo. Its more logical to install the Cpu fan on the right side so it will blow into the Ninja. You can expriment and find out which will cool the system better but as I said 99% you will see installing on the right side will cool better.

My P150 and Ninja are on their way, I have P180 and XP90 so once i got mine installed we'll compare the temps.

[oscar3d]

Cool spolitta !!

I will post hee once I have it.

Thanks. If anyone wants to share info, it will be extremely valuable, thanks!

[Cams]

I shall follow this thread with interest as I have just placed an order for a P150 and Scythe Ninja to quieten down my socket 478 P4. It should be fine without a fan but I ordered a Nexus 120 anyway, just in case.

Cams

[oscar3d]

Yeah! Tomorrow or Thursday I will get the Ninja and will attempt to install it on my P150. I have a Nexus 120 orange fan, so I hope everything goes well.

Right now I have a Zalman CNPS 9500 the temps are absolutely awesome 35C on Idle and 56C Load for 4 hours (playing FEAR game). And this is a P4 670 Prescott running at default @ 3.8 Ghz(AKA The Devil's Waterbag) on an Asus P5WD2 Premium Mobo.

Does anybody has any pictures of P150 rigs to see?

Spolitta did you get your stuff?

[guava]

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=28203

The Ninja works great in my system. The board layout is such that the cpu fan blows straight through towards the case fan. This may help get the hot air out of the case that much quicker.

[oscar3d]

I have to recognize that I've been actually very Lazy about this.

Yes I've recieved the Scythe Ninja with an extra Nexus 120 Orange fan. They are still on te box and unopened.

Considering that I have an LGA 775 chipset, that means I have to take out the entire motherboard, then unclip the Zalman backplate (CNPS 9500) and then clip the Ninja backplate.

Then clean the CPU surface with alcohol isopropyl, wait till it dries, blah, blah, apply Artic Silver 5 again, mount the ninja.... It's a hazzle, dammit, I know at some point I might have to do it.

Meanwhile I'm running the Zalman 9500 CNPS at low speed 1500-1590 RPM.

I've actually added Nexus Damptek Noise Abosrtion on top of the dampening material of the P150 (right and left side panels) and put Nexus Damptek Foam Blocks in one of the empty CD bays, and one on top of one of the HD bays.

I have one WD 250 Gb Caviar, suspended.

I have to say that I can barely hear the tower any more.
I think there is a point when your ear gets acustomed to a silent computer, and then you start for searching for a single noise to silence,
you want more, and more and more.

I don't know if the Scythe Ninja would really make a big difference in noise at this point. I know I need balance between cooling and noise, because I have a P4 Prescott 3.8ghz, and that's a HOT chip compared to the Athlon chip you showed in your gallery.

Meanwhile of course I'll keep the Ninja and Nexus Fan. If I ever hear a single click from that POC Zalman Fan, I would replace the thing, no doubt.

I wonder if there is anybody who has a P4 3.8 Prescott chip being cooled by a Sythe Ninja on a P150. I know the reviews from SPCR say that they get 41C on idle using P180 case and Scythe Ninja (was it summer when they get those temps?)

But right now I'm getting 37C Idle on my chip with the Zalman.

What do you guys think. I feel at this point undecided wether to replace my Zalman with a Ninja, and lazy about the hazzle of installing it.

Is it worth it? I guess I'm getting mad about silence, and I want balance.

Any help from this site would be extremely appreciated, this site rocks!

Thanks!

[kall]

I'm about to order the Scythe Ninja and already placed an order for the P160.. I will also post the temps once I get them.

[oscar3d]

Which CPU are you trying?

[jmke]

only use the back casefan and construct a shroud to cover the ninja and direct air through the front of the HSF towards the rear fan

[oscar3d]

I'm out of lazyness and tried the Ninja on my P150.

It took me 3 hours to take out the Zalman CNPS 9500 and changed to a Scythe Ninja.

Guys this thing is freaking awesome. I feared I was going to regret it but I'm so happy now I could die

I tried the Ninja on my P150, with Asus P5WD2 Premium, and a P4 3.8 Ghz, also took the Neo Crap PSu and put a nice Seasonic S12-500 with the botton fan blowing out air.

Yes you can mount that stuff no problem in that config. The only thing I advise is that you actually install the Ninja with the motherboard outside the case. Then once installed, grab the ninja with the mobo hanging from it and put it back on the case. I used Artic Silver 5 on it.

Here are my spec and I'm sure you guys are going to be very interested in seeing this, since the P4 3.8 is the hottest of the hottest hell.


Ambiient Temp on my room was 62F

I kept the Tri-Cool exhaust fan running on Low on both tests.

So here are my numbers before and after.

BEFORE:

Zalman 9500

Idle was 37C Load (4 hours of BF2) was 54C


AFTER:

Scythe Ninja with Nexus Fan 120mm running at approx 7 volts (@850RPM) (I'm using the SmartFan controller from the Zalman on it)

Idle was 34C Load (4 hrs of BF2 again) was 52C

Ninja outperforms Zalman 9500 CNPS on cooling and quiet!!!
No question about it, this thing rocks! I don't think I'm going to run it passively, because it's winter now here in California. Plus I don't want to risk the system. Also I don't hear the Nexus fan at all unless I put my ear 2 inches from it LOL. Nexus is the best.

I was thinking about putting a Yate Loon 120mm but really its not worth it.
My system is finally cool and noisiless. Except for a little little HD typical noise. But I can live with that, until I go with a Spinpoint or a Barracuda.

No way I'm putting back the flower again. I'm so happy for doing this, I was feeling kind of reticent to do the try, but it's worth it. I will post some pictures of this new conquer as soon as I can.

The answer, yes. You now can trust this thing with a Pentium D, no problem. My Prescott 670 3.8 Ghz is hotter than Pentium D.

I hope this helps guys.

[Cams]

Thanks for coming back with the review. It's good to know that it works!

[geofelt]

I have been running an intel 670 3.8 in the antec p150 case. Temps are reasonable now. The key for me was changing out the stock evga 7800gt cooler for an arctic cooler rev 3. (With EVGA this won't void the warranty.) The vga temps came down, of course, but since the vga heat was exhausted immediately through the pci slot, the vga card did not heat up the air going to the ninja cooler, thus keeping the cpu cooler. Fan noise is minimal, and kept constant, so I don't notice it.

[MrDisco]

great thread! please keep the comments on the scythe coming as i'm considering it for my p160 case w/x2-3800. i'm thinking of attaching a coolermaster to the ninja on the right so it blows air to the exhaust fan (which i'll change from the oem antec to a yate loon and put a yate loon in the front of the case). any comments on this type of configuration?

[spolitta]

Here is a picture with Asus A8N board.



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[oscar3d]

What? YOU ARE RUNNING IT FANLES SPOLITTA?

If so What are your temps?

[spolitta]

What? YOU ARE RUNNING IT FANLES SPOLITTA?

If so What are your temps?

That’s a 3200+ and temps are 36/43, some think its good, I think its high because of 4 reasons.

1) High Ambient Temps 33-34
2) 3 hard drives, 2 of them are really hot (40-50)
3) Too much foam in the case, specially the side panel
4) Only one 92mm in the front intake.




When overclocked 1.5V temps goes to 44/52. I will actually going to install a 5v fan on the Ninja so then I can leave the Nexus exhaust 5v too, compared to the current 12v. If I didn’t OC then defiantly ninja fanless works perfectly in P150.


hopefully that helps.

[Firetech]

That’s a 3200+ and temps are 36/43, some think its good, I think its high because of 5 reasons.

1) High Ambient Temps 33-34
2) 3 hard drives, 2 of them are really hot (40-50)
3) Too much foam in the case, specially the side panel
4) Only one 92mm in the front intake.
I will actually going to install a 5v fan on the Ninja so then I can leave the Nexus exhaust 5v too, compared to the current 12v.

Sounds OK to me for a 'passive' HS set-up. Hope I can manage the same with a fan!

1) Yup, know that feeling
2) Is one a Raptor....
3) but is it worth it for reducing noise (I see you're a sound engineer!)??
4) I notice with my set-up that reducing my front 120mm from 12v to 5v/off raises system temps 4deg at 31 deg ambient. Will the P150 take a 120mm?

I'm following this one intently

[spolitta]

and actually there is a 5th reason.

5) I switched from S12 (bottom fan) to Neo (ducted).

that means the PSU will no longer suck any hot air from the CPU to outside of the case.

[Firetech]

and actually there is a 5th reason.

5) I switched from S12 (bottom fan) to Neo (ducted).

that means the PSU will no longer suck any hot air from the CPU to outside of the case.

So your whole case airflow is reliant on the rear Nexus. I was going to suggest that ducting the ninja to the nexus might be an option for you until you mentioned that

I'd still be interested to know if you rate the soundproofing being of benefit to noise reduction, even if not temps

[spolitta]

So your whole case airflow is reliant on the rear Nexus. I was going to suggest that ducting the ninja to the nexus might be an option for you until you mentioned that

Actually the Nexus was lightly ducted to Ninja till last night but then was taken off simply because there was absolutely no temp difference. If you take a look at my case again you'll see that the space is very tight between the Ninja, PSU, Nexus and the graphic card so no extra ducting is required.

[Firetech]

Ordered my Ninja yesterday.....

[moritz]

spolitta: Nice rig, and a nice monitor to boot. Hope to get the P150 soon, then my desk will look much the same.

[spolitta]

spolitta: Nice rig, and a nice monitor to boot. Hope to get the P150 soon, then my desk will look much the same.

yup, assembling the P150 is really fun, you will have a good time doing it. I'm collecting more info to write a review on P150 and post it along with more pictures in the gallery section.

[Cams]

No pics I'm afraid but I got a Ninja installed on a Gigabyte GA-8ITX in a P-150 and am running it fanless with an orange Nexus as exhaust, stock PSU and no intake fans. Folding temp is around 43ºC. With the Zalman ALCU CNPS something or other (old flower one) I was hitting 70ºC without any difficulty, and that was with a tri-cool fan on at full voltage.

[oscar3d]

Hmmmm, tempted to run my P4 3.8 fanless. But I don't think it will survive. You are using Athlon chips and Cams has a p4 2.0.

Although, I switched the NeoHE and have a Seasonic S-12 500W as my fan. Hmmmm, temptations.

Well, we made our point:

Scythe Ninja kicks Zalman's butt anytime in cooling/silence.

It's the option to go!!!

Hurra!

[spolitta]

Hmmmm, tempted to run my P4 3.8 fanless. But I don't think it will survive. You are using Athlon chips and Cams has a p4 2.0.

You will need an aggressive exhaust fan to achieve that. Niosewise it isn’t worth it but two nexus at 7V will surely take care of your hot cpu.

[oscar3d]

Thanks spolitta,

I have one single question...

Do you think I should replace the Tri-Cool Fan (even if it's on LOW setting) for a Nexus 120.

Tri-Cool @ LOW setting or Nexus 120 @ 5v?

Which one have more CFG (with those sttings).

Which in your opinion is the less noisier?

I think I will make a Poll for this.