NEW AMD stock cooler with 4 heatpipes and swapable 80mm fan!

Erssa · Post by **Erssa** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:00 am

Check this thread from xtremesystems. Some user posted a pics of a cooler that came with Opteron 170. It has 4 heatpipes and a copper base and a swappable 80mm fan. As he says that is pretty sick for a stock cooler!

Could this mean, that finally there is a stock cooler with good performance, only a fan swap away from silence. All at the price of boxed processor!

Edit: They are probably dual core/FX only, but it is still nice imo.

xarope · Post by **xarope** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:34 am

Hmm, that sounds like the same cooler I got with my opteron 175, very easy to install, and not that loud. I promptly stuck a Zalman 7700 on the opteron, though, and used the stock cooler for the AMD 64 3200+ for my wife's new PC (after getting rid of the normal thermal paste that comes with it). It's definitely different to the stock coolers for the normal AMD64s.

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Just saw the pics, that's exactly what I got in my package as well. I did the standard finger test (i.e. used my finger to stop the fan) and there was no noticeable difference in sound volume in my wife's CM5 enclosure (which probably means the 120mm fan at the back is still too loud, time to swap it out for one of the yate loons I got recently).
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Erssa · Post by **Erssa** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:35 am

It would be cool, if SPCR could test this cooler.

Locklear · Post by **Locklear** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:27 am

same cooler that came with my x2 4800+. Looks like it does a nice job cooling my socket754 3200+.

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:10 pm

Here's the older heatpipe cooler if anyone is interested. It got 70 mm fan, and the heatpipes are placed different.

rpsgc · Post by **rpsgc** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:35 am

It's also the FX-60 HSF. Very nice I should add.

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:18 am

xarope wrote: Just saw the pics, that's exactly what I got in my package as well. I did the standard finger test (i.e. used my finger to stop the fan) and there was no noticeable difference in sound volume in my wife's CM5 enclosure (which probably means the 120mm fan at the back is still too loud, time to swap it out for one of the yate loons I got recently).

the fan on the cooler is temp controlled and will ramp up once you start to load the CPU
at max speed it spins ~5400rpm and is very loud; but at that speed it keeps an Opteron 165 @ 2.6ghz - 1.5v vcore at <60°C. impressive for stock cooling!
on that lower clocked A64 it will rarely need to spin that fast, so it will be dead quiet

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:41 pm

Here's some more info, that's one crazy little fan! 0.75 A! It's a bit strange that the pipes are above the base and not inside it.

vine-au · Post by **vine-au** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:07 pm

Thats the stock fan that comes with the dual cores. Never installed it myself - I stuck with my Tt Typhoon. I plugged it in to test the fan though - bit loud for my likes, and has a definate whoosh noise to it. I guess you could undervolt it or swap it out... I got bored one night so decided to lap it (it has a pretty rough surface on it) came up very nice and shiny. I'll have to try it out soon if I can mod it to fit a SocketA.
Still a deadly stock cooler though. AMD ftw! hehe

hvengel · Post by **hvengel** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:21 pm

Yes that is the unit that comes with the X2s now. At least it is the same as the unit that came with my 4800. Had it on my machine for a while. Not too bad but it is a little noiser at full speed than I would like. It does really need to run full speed when the processor (at least a 4800) is fully loaded to have some headroom for warmer weather since in a cool room it would reach about 55C fully loaded. The 1 meg cache X2s are rated for a 65C max temp. So during warmer weather it would have been very close to max.

I never saw the fan on mine go over 3000 RPM. Below 2000 RPM it is fairly quite. I did not see any signs that the cooler has any speed controller built in. If I disabled my motherboard controller the fan ran at 3000 RPM no matter what temp. the CPU was running.

I replaced it with a ThermalRight SI-120 (sort of an XP-120 that fits on any motherboard) and my CPU temps went down about 10C with a Yate Loon fan. I am using the fan speed controls that are in the motherboard BIOS and at idle the fan is running at about 720 RPM and the CPU is about 27C in a 20C room. With the CPU loaded up with two copies of CPUBurn it will reach about 44C with the fan running at about 1200 RPM. The Yate Loon at full speed (1350 RPM) is significantly less noisy than the stock coolers fan at all but the slower speeds (<1500 RPM).

So even though the stock cooler is better than I had expected the better after market units are significantly better.

My stepson has a machine with a 3500 Winchester and the current plan is to use the cooler from the 4800 on that along a Zalman speed controller to tame the fan. Should handle the 3500 and still be fairly quite since the 3500 puts out about half as much heat as the 4800.

stupid · Post by **stupid** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:25 am

Hmm... If I get this HSF when I purchase my X2 4600+ then I may just postpone or drop the purchase of the Scythe Ninja and Nexus 120mm fan if my Fanmate II can quiet it down enough.

Qwertyiopisme · Post by **Qwertyiopisme** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:20 am

THat's strange, my 3800+ only came with the standard box heatsink (same as a single core venice 3000+ for example).

Erssa · Post by **Erssa** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:41 pm

So did the one, that I purchased in December. I guess there are still lots of "old" boxed models on the market.

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:48 pm

it seems only Opteron and X2 AMD CPU's are shipped with heatpipe stock heatsink.

Opteron 4 heat pipes
X2 2 heat pipes

El Doug · Post by **El Doug** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:03 pm

X2s get the 4-heatpipe one now too. when i got my first 4400+, it had the 2-pipe HSF. but since the CPU was DOA, i RMA'ed it to AMD and got a new one. low and behold, shorter, external fan, 4 pipes. good stuff

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:12 pm

aha, that's good news:) thanks for the info

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:25 am

new A64 stock vs Thermalright XP-90 here: http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=399

Erssa · Post by **Erssa** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:01 am

Nice. At least it is capable to keep the processor cool. Although I am more interested how it would do with a quiet fan like the 80mm nexus.

Jmke: Do you think there would be a chance for testing the stock cooler with also 80mm nexus? Just to know how well it will do when silence is the objective.

Or maybe somebody who got this stock cooler, but instead decided to go for a 3rd party cooler would like to send it to SPCR for testing. Provided that SPCR would be interested of testing this in the first place...

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:01 am

jmke wrote:new A64 stock vs Thermalright XP-90 here: http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=399

Very nice, jmke! Only trouble is noise, I guess.

- What do you think about removing the fan holder made of sheet metal and use a 92 mm fan instead?

- Can you tell me the height of the HS, fan excluded?

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:30 am

please remember to look at the "author" field:)

post your questions in the comment thread of the article and I'm pretty sure the author will reply soon after with answers;

I'm trying to get one for testing, but I'm not going to buy Opteron/X2 just for the HSF

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:42 am

Yeah I know you're not the author. Just thought you might be able to answer the questions anyway.

jmke · Post by **jmke** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:01 am

that HSF looks to be designed for 80mm fan, mounting 92mm fan without a shroud would not increase performance I'm afraid as you're stuck with a larger dead zone in the middle and the air at the sides will be misdirected, and no longer blowing over the fins completely.

I would love to give size specs, but don't have the unit (yet) so would not be able to comment on this.