x2 4200 temperatures

isendir · Post by **isendir** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:18 am

Hi everyone. I recently installed a x2 4200+ (Manchester core). With a ninja and a nexus set to low it idles around 42ÂºC and gets up to 59ÂºC at full load. It's one of those processor with a high TDP (96W or so). Are this temperatures right? and more importantly, safe?

Stacey Melissa · Post by **Stacey Melissa** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:00 am

It's safe, but doesn't look normal. It looks like you don't have CnQ enabled properly.

My overclocked 4200+ idles at around 35C using a Zalman 7700AlCu that is modfied to use a 120mm Nexus. The BIOS keeps it running at 650rpm until the temp passes 55C, and then the fan goes to full speed. It only has to do this at or near full load, and the higher fan speed keeps the temp below 60C.

Now if a Ninja is supposed to be better than my Zalman 7700, I'd say something is wrong with your setup.

isendir · Post by **isendir** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:26 am

I forgot to tell I don't have CnQ enabled

Sorry

Post by **NeilBlanchard** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:58 pm

Hello,

The temps sound about right -- what is your ambient temperature?

isendir · Post by **isendir** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:12 am

My ambient temperatures are 22-24ÂºC.

zenboy · Post by **zenboy** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:41 am

Sounds right to me. I don't have CnQ enabled either, I use Rightmark to manually set the voltage on my proc to 1.1V, which runs it happily. I highly recommend it (lowered my load temps 10C, idle temps maybe 2-3C).

KeithT · Post by **KeithT** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:10 pm

Hi,

I have the same setup in a p180. My idle temps are around 44 and loads at around 54 max. I use an ASUS motherboard and the CnQ utility tells me that it volted at around 1.35V. Any comments about this? Any suggestions as to improve performance?

I guess my situation is similar to isendir.

isendir · Post by **isendir** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:00 am

I think we had bad luck and got some power hungry processors

jaganath · Post by **jaganath** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:13 am

Well of course it will suck a lot of power if you don't have CnQ enabled.

pony-tail · Post by **pony-tail** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:23 pm

I have an X2 4600 (110 watt I believe) on an Asus A8N-sli Premium.
It Idles at 38-40 and the highest I have had it is 55 .
Antec Sonata (original) case , Thermalright XP90-C with NMB-Mat low speed fan on a Zalman Fanmate at just above the lowest setting .
It has a couple of 7800 GTs in there so Silent is NOT going to happen Quiet has to do .
Your temps sound a tad warm - but not dangerous !

KeithT · Post by **KeithT** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:12 pm

Well, with my ninja and low speed tri-cool fan on a 4200+ x2 I have enabled CnQ and now in ambient temperature of 25C, it idles at 34-35C. As far as I have read, only completely full load, CnQ not going to do much. isendir, maybe you should try using CnQ?

KeithT · Post by **KeithT** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:41 am

Please help, I have just come across a problem. I use a ISDN internet connection and my modem is far away from the computer so I use 2 usb repeater cables to connect the modem to the computer. When I have CnQ enabled in Windows XP, the internet connection in around half an hour just doesnt work. It says I am still connected but there is no response from the connection. Please help!

zenboy · Post by **zenboy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:18 am

Try turning off CnQ and just using something like RightMark to reduce the voltage, and see if that's what is causing it, or the dynamic multiplier.

zenboy · Post by **zenboy** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:19 am

Also, USB repeaters versus putting in some longer phone lines? Seems a little ridiculous to me.

silence · Post by **silence** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:22 pm

isendir-

I am currently running a 65w Windsor core 4200+ with the stock AMD cooler and getting temperatures of between 37-40 at idle and 52-62 under full, dual-core load CPUBurn x2). Keep in mind that this is with the stock cooler - heatsinkfactory.com sent me the wrong order initially and I am waiting for the correct one to arrive. Also keep in mind that the lower load temps (between 52-58ish) are for stock clock speeds, and those higher (58-62ish) are for overclocked @ 2.7 GHz. My previous setup consisted of a Northwood 3.0 P4 overclocked to 3.7GHz, and the Ninja with a Nexus fan mounted to it kept the processor right around 38-40 degrees under load. I believe that processor is rated for a TDP of 85w, which drives me to the conclusion that your setup is indeed running a little hot. Perhaps you should post about your airflow scheme, and we'll go from there.

-Domenic

KeithT · Post by **KeithT** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:31 pm

I am trying to use RightMark and I found that with that, dropping the multiplier will affect the usb connection. Pretty much straight away if I just set it on a lower multiplier with the same VID, the connection will be affected. What is going on??? I would like to keep the cpu temp lower but I cant if I want to stay connected. By the way, yes repeaters are stupid but its a temporary thing.

As for temperatures, without CnQ I have idles of around 43 still... do I need to make some changes? Is it the seating of my heatsink? My airflow situation: I have a p180 2 tricool fans exhaust on top and back. One tricool fan on ninja blowing up and one intake on the top hdd cage. All fans are on the low setting. My video card is on Zalman fanless heatsink. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

piydek · Post by **piydek** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:05 am

sorry to bring up this old topic, but wow...these reports make me think i have some super temps.

i have s939 x2 4600+ (manchester) on a8nsli premium and stock coller/fan, but with AS5 paste. i don't use cool and quiet, but use q-fan set to start working at full speed once CPU gets to 51C. case is antec sonata II and only has the stock rear outtake fan at lowest speed. these are the temps i get:

around 40C idle and MAX 52C full load on both cores for 1+ hour in SUMMER, when it's around 30C in room. so, judging by that i'd say there's definitely something wrong with your temps.

Entropism · Post by **Entropism** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:27 pm

Yeah, that was odd. I have my Opteron 170 at 2.9Ghz and I idle at 34c, full load at about 50c. This is with a Ninja on it.

Tobias · Post by **Tobias** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:32 am

KeithT, did you get your problem sorted? after my switch to my new mobo, my wifi dies after aproximately 40-60 mins... doesn't seem to be a question of the puter changing multipliers though...

second, I guess I got a nice cpu and all:) at idle with with stock heatsink at 35% ~44C. at load with fan at 70% I get 55-56C....

kike_1974 · Post by **kike_1974** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:58 am

The PSU affects to the temps too, specially in small cases or with bad airflow. In my antec sonata with my X2 4600+ Manchester temps went 6-8Âº higher at idle when I switched to the Antec Phantom 500 PSU.
My idle temps are now around 42ÂºC with ambient temp of 25ÂºC. They were around 35ÂºC with the same ambient conditions.
So 42ÂºC may seem high, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your processor is wrong. It could be that your system has bad airflow. And while your temps are in safe range you shouldn't get worry (42ÂºC idle 55ÂºC load seems safe to me).