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Ninja-Plus ripoff with blue-LED fan?

Post by Felger Carbon » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:53 am

Here.

Code-name V12 by OCZ - no real name yet.

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Post by chienpourri » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:08 am

OMG this is so true! Looks like they took Scythe Ninja and changed a bit the shape...

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Post by omgy » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:10 am

It's got lights, it's rad.
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Post by NeoNSX » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:35 pm

Cool. A Ninja with BLING!!! 8)

I think the cpu/chipset heatsink combo is a great idea. About time. But the chipset heatsink looks like it has a 60mm fan which is EVIL. :wink:
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Post by JazzJackRabbit » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:42 pm

ROFL ahahahahaha ninja with bling, even the fins are shiny :lol:

(we need a smiley like the one above but with sparkling teeth for :bling: )

Anyway, never liked OCZ, and I have no idea why people pay twice as much for their stuff when all they do is sell rebadged products pushed to their limits with questionable reliability. Their PSUs are rebadged, their memory is rebadged, don't know about their flash drives, but seems likely and now this... Ha!

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Post by mbetea » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:51 pm

Guess OCZ figures other companies can make a living off copying other people's designs [cough]Thermaltake[/cough] they should get in on it too. :wink:

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Post by Yeti » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:05 pm

OCZ is highly overrated. They started off with a shady reputation selling rebadged RAM, and while they managed to clean their name, now they've secured a cult following by pandering to young "l33t" gamers.

It's interesting how many enthusiast sites praise OCZ PSUs and yet never even heard of Seasonic!

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Post by Noni » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:51 pm

They make great PSU's.

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Post by wwenze » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:14 pm

:lol:

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Post by vitaminc » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:44 pm

Noni wrote:They make great PSU's.
they don't make PSU. they outsource their psu design and manufacturing to some ODM (i think topower, but not 100% sure).
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Post by tmoney » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:58 pm

ok... and nexus fans are just orange yate loons, but everyone on here still has a nexus!

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Post by JazzJackRabbit » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:02 pm

vitaminc wrote:
Noni wrote:They make great PSU's.
they don't make PSU. they outsource their psu design and manufacturing to some ODM (i think topower, but not 100% sure).
AFAIK mainly topower and FSP (gamestream or whatever is fsp based).

To the vitaminc, as Noni said OCZ does not make their own PSUs, in fact they don't make anything themselves, all they do is slap a pretty badge on some OEM PSU and sell it at 50-100% premium. And their PSUs are not that great either compared to Seasonic. Go to jonnyguru website for gamestream and M12 reviews, seasonic is a clear winner in quality.

tmoney wrote:ok... and nexus fans are just orange yate loons, but everyone on here still has a nexus!
There is just one advantage of nexus over YL, that's RPM. You 7volt YL and it's going to spin at 900 RPM which is still a tad too loud for me. You 7volt Nexus and it's going to spin at 700RPM which is significantly quiter. You could attempt to undervolt YL even further, but in that case it might not start reliably, especially if the fan is mounted at odd angles, and in the end you could undervolt nexus further too giving you lower RPM. IMO the choice between YL and Nexus shouldn't be dictated by how quiet they are at identical RPMs (they should be equal) but what RPMs you need out of your fan.

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Post by nici » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:30 pm

Who gives a damn that they sell rebadged stuff? It's pretty good stuff still, though it's expensive pretty good stuff, and you can get some cheaper very good stuff. everything is rebadged nowadays anyway.. Hell even a Chevrolet is really a Daewoo with a chevy badge :mrgreen: "Turn your vacuum-cleaner into a Chevy in one easy, affordable step! Order your badge set Today! Buy one get three For Free! Only 27.99$+s&h!

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Post by JazzJackRabbit » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:44 pm

nici wrote:Who gives a damn that they sell rebadged stuff?[/i]
I care because one, I'd rather buy original at half the price, and two, since it's OCZ we are talking about, they were known for selling components with questionable reliability/stability.

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Post by vitaminc » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:47 pm

nici wrote:Who gives a damn that they sell rebadged stuff? It's pretty good stuff still, though it's expensive pretty good stuff, and you can get some cheaper very good stuff. everything is rebadged nowadays anyway.. Hell even a Chevrolet is really a Daewoo with a chevy badge :mrgreen: "Turn your vacuum-cleaner into a Chevy in one easy, affordable step! Order your badge set Today! Buy one get three For Free! Only 27.99$+s&h!
Just trying to correct Noni, because there is a pretty big difference between rebadging and actual design/manufacturing.
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Post by nici » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:20 pm

Sure thing. SPCR is a pretty cynical crew anyway, and once you hang around here for a while you learn to think beyond marketing BS. I know i did, after buying a shitload of stuff that was supposed to be "silent" before finding SPCR when searching for reviews... Now i need to get some sleep. tomorrow im off to test computer hardware for a couple of months.

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Post by Erssa » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:39 pm

tmoney wrote:ok... and nexus fans are just orange yate loons, but everyone on here still has a nexus!
Touché.
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Post by NeoNSX » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:15 am

Another blinged out Ninja just hit the market. Can't wait for the SPCR review. :wink:

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Post by nici » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:29 am

Maybe im just plain boring, but i don't find that funny even though im a car nutter and think the new CTRs are too flashy for my taste, though excellent cars for their purpose.

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Post by Felger Carbon » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:54 am

nici wrote:...i don't find that funny...
"Badge engineering" is British humor. I imagine there are some Finnish jokes that don't go over well in the English-speaking community. :D

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Post by NeoNSX » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:21 pm

Sorry you dont find that funny. But it is a well established fact that Type-R stickers make cars and computers run faster. :lol:
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Post by mbetea » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:57 am

I thought LEDs made computers go faster. ;)

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Post by MrDisco » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:26 pm

mbetea wrote:I thought LEDs made computers go faster. ;)
it's a proven fact that blue leds increase cpu performance by 104%

seriously though, if the OCZ Ninja performs the same or equal as Scythe, then I say good for them. hopefully they'll have a lower price and/or better distribution than Scythe.

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Post by shadowfire1 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:52 am

MrDisco wrote: seriously though, if the OCZ Ninja performs the same or equal as Scythe, then I say good for them.
:wink:

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:01 pm

Hi,

I wonder why they put the notches for the wire clips on there -- and then used screws to hold on the fan? And the screws thread into what?
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Post by Chris Chan » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:28 am

pfft, LEDs... Black computers go faster! It's a proven fact! Neil: Looks like the fan screws just thread between the fins.
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Post by NeoNSX » Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:37 pm

you guys are forgetting carbon fibre too. Any black computer with LED's, a side window, lots of stickers and LOTS of CF will smoke the competition. 8)
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Post by mbetea » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:56 pm

I wonder why they put the notches for the wire clips on there
More surface area? :wink: It will be interesting to see this up against a Ninja though. I wonder how their slight "design" changes affect performance. But I'm sure they will put a premium price tag on it so would negate anything it had over the Ninja.

Personally for me to buy an OCZ branded Ninja it would have to be:
a. Quite a bit cheaper than the Ninja
b. Perform considerably better than the Ninja
Neither of those I figure will happen. But wow, how cool would it be to have almost a whole computer of branded OCZ parts, joy! :?

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Post by chobaka » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:08 pm

NeoNSX wrote:Another blinged out Ninja just hit the market. Can't wait for the SPCR review. :wink:

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Ha! The Ninja is the rice-rocket of the heatsink world. Great pic hehe

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Post by Evil Gnomes » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:44 pm

hmmm

considering the ocz tempest is like 90aud here, and the scythe ninja can be had for 70, i seriously doubt that this heatsink will cost less then a ninja.

as for performance, ocz is geared towards gamers, i wouldnt be suprised if the fan is stupidly loud by spcr standards :P

However a fan replacement MIGHT show good results

i guess we'll see how it goes

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