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Post by jhhoffma » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:23 pm

How the heck are you supposed to mount a 6-7lb heatsink?

I wonder if they'll include a 775 bracket with clips?! :lol:
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Post by pony-tail » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:52 am

Most likely it will make one or two deg C difference to temps. If it does not break the Mobo.
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Post by Scrooge » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:09 am

So pretty though...

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:11 am

Hi,

I wonder if they solder the fins to the heatpipes; or the heatpipes to the base?
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Post by pony-tail » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:02 pm

I would think so Thermalright usually do .
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Post by MikeC » Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:00 pm

3kg? That's such a waste! Don't buy it or support its production in any way!!!!
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Post by EsaT » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:46 am

MikeC wrote:3kg?
WTF...
Do they really expect that heavy cooler is good for use with motherboard vertically?
Already PC "gaming enthusiasts" are doing their part in killing PC game markets by hyping necessarity of multiple graphic cards so do they have to do same for CPU HSFs?


If they want heaviest cooler for PR pissing contest why they don't just make some special edition/PR cooler from DU/U238!
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Post by Sooty » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:23 am

I can’t see how it’s 3kg. The copper Ninja gains 70% in weight, over it’s original, but this weighs 400% more? Are some parts of the Copper Ninja only plated, where as this is solid copper?

When you use a mounting back-plate, to what extent does that increase the safe weight limit? Not to 3kg I bet.

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Post by FartingBob » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:13 pm

The ninja only gained 24% weight (815g to 1015g), the TRUE weighs only 790g, so expect this one to be around the 1kg mark, cant see it being more than 1.1kg.
Heavy yes, but nothing unheard of.
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Post by Sooty » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:36 pm

FartingBob wrote:The ninja only gained 24% weight (815g to 1015g)
Where are you getting those numbers from, Bob? According to their Euro site, the Ninja gained 59%: 640g > 1015g

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Post by FartingBob » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:23 pm

Sooty wrote:
FartingBob wrote:The ninja only gained 24% weight (815g to 1015g)
Where are you getting those numbers from, Bob? According to their Euro site, the Ninja gained 59%: 640g > 1015g
The Rev b (the only one available at most places) comes with a fan, upping its weight to 815g from 665g. The copper version also comes with a fan, upping it to 1015g. Presuming the fan on the CU is the same that would mean the heatsink on its own weighs 865g, a 30% difference over the AL version.

Either way, this CU TRUE will not weigh 3kg.
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Post by nici » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:14 pm

If im not mistaken it would weigh about 3.3 times the original if the original was 100% aluminium and the dimensions were identical, based on comparing the density of alumium and copper.
The fins are alumium on the normal version, but the base and heatpipes are copper copper as far as i know. They just left out the nickel plating on this one, and made the dins out of copper. Anyone care to calculate the mass of the standard alumium fins? It's three in the mornin so i won''t bother.

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Post by Sooty » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:21 pm

FartingBob wrote:
Sooty wrote:
FartingBob wrote:The ninja only gained 24% weight (815g to 1015g)
Where are you getting those numbers from, Bob? According to their Euro site, the Ninja gained 59%: 640g > 1015g
The Rev b (the only one available at most places) comes with a fan, upping its weight to 815g from 665g. The copper version also comes with a fan, upping it to 1015g. Presuming the fan on the CU is the same that would mean the heatsink on its own weighs 865g, a 30% difference over the AL version.
As I asked before: where are you getting those numbers from? As stated on Scythes Euro site (and I’ve double checked elsewhere) the copper version, without fan, weighs 1015g. The fan adds an additional 115g. The standard Ninja weighs 640g without fan = +59%

Btw, the copper version isn’t entirely copper. The small aluminium heatsink that sits on the base remains aluminium.

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Post by continuum » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:21 am

Maybe Xigmatek will do a HDT-S1283 out of copper? ;)

Actually if I could get an HR-01 Plus comparison with an all-copper version that might be some sick, excessive plan...

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Post by FartingBob » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:02 am

Sooty wrote: As I asked before: where are you getting those numbers from? As stated on Scythes Euro site (and I’ve double checked elsewhere) the copper version, without fan, weighs 1015g. The fan adds an additional 115g. The standard Ninja weighs 640g without fan = +59%

Btw, the copper version isn’t entirely copper. The small aluminium heatsink that sits on the base remains aluminium.
My usual shopping sites both listed the total weight as 1015g, and since it comes with a fan then i presumed that the fan was included in the weight. But yes, after checking the scythe's site they say just the body weighs 1015g, with the fan as extra. So your numbers are correct.

Nici, the heatsink would only weigh 3.3 times as much if the original was 100% aluminium (inc heatpipes, mounting etc), and the CU was 100% copper. But neither is true.
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Post by nici » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:11 am

FartingBob wrote: Nici, the heatsink would only weigh 3.3 times as much if the original was 100% aluminium (inc heatpipes, mounting etc), and the CU was 100% copper. But neither is true.
That's what i said.

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Post by MikeC » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:21 am

OK, you guys are all right. That 3kg cited is wrong. Oh alright, maybe some folks will want this thing and maybe it's not an utter waste of raw materials and energy.
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Post by thejamppa » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:15 am

That cooler is not ment for cooling CPU's. Its either meant to put glass case with trophies or use as paper weight.

3 KG's on Motherboard... They're insane. I don't even want to thing how much torque that might give for PCB. Anyone who has tried to hold 3 KG to 3,5 KG'd on arms slightly bent its not easy. ( This to those members of Sa-Int who got rifle drilling with old fashion way and so forth )
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