Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

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Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by rpsgc » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:11 am

Has anyone had any success in using the original Scythe Ninja (not rev. b) with socket 1156?

What kind of adapter works?

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by lodestar » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:46 am

You might have to try your luck with the Thermalright 1155/6 mounting kit.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by rpsgc » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:55 am

Are you sure? A Scythe rep/forum mod and a user both said that the URK 3 won't work with socket 1155, so unless 1156 is significantly different...

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by ces » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:22 am

rpsgc wrote:Are you sure? A Scythe rep/forum mod and a user both said that the URK 3 won't work with socket 1155, so unless 1156 is significantly different...
It appears that rep backtracked on his advice?

"I have to apologize for giving you wrong information. This problem is that there is no appropriate clip for the cooler side available which has the necessary distance for the Socket 1155 or 1366 holes. I forgot that when thinking about a solution"

Also:

"No, it didn't work. I bought the Scythe Universal Retention Kit 3, but unfortunately this has no support for the Ninja SCNJ-1000/SCNJ-1000P at all...

The original Ninja uses clamp mounting and two mounting bars that were supplied with the CPU cooler.
The information that Scythe gave here is wrong: The problem with the the Scythe Universal Retention Kit 3 is that it doesn't support mounting bars. Hence it can't be used in conjunction with the Ninja, only with other coolers that I don't know..."

But others say:

"In case you wish to use the original Ninja (which was a great CPU cooler!) and don't throw it away just because Scythe doesn't offer an appropriate 1155 mounting kit, buy a Socket 1155 mainboard that also features LGA 775 socket holes - like the ASRock H67M-GE/HT S1155 M-ATX."

"Dangit, I really wanted to keep using my Ninja - Maybe a TR mounting kit will work with 1156..."

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by lodestar » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:36 am

Yes, the original advice was incorrect hence the edit.

It might be useful to say that, according to Intel, the LGA1155/56 cooler mounting holes should be 75mm apart. If this is the same as the distance between the holes on the 775 metal mounting bar arms that came with the Ninja then an 1155/56 backplate could work. The Thermalright Socket 1156 Bolt-Thru-Kit Rev.B which costs around £4 (€4.5) here in the UK is probably the cheapest source of such a backplate.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by rpsgc » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:38 am

That last comment was mine :P

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by cmthomson » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:39 pm

The Asrock P67 motherboard also supports 775 mounting. That is, it has holes at both the 1155/1156 and 775 spacing.

My (so far just hypothetical) upgrade to i7 is this board plus my (ancient) Ninja 1000, possibly the best heat sink ever.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by lodestar » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:20 am

The 775 mounting holes mean that any push-pin type fitting will work. However 1155 motherboards have a CPU socket backplate which I think will interfere with 775 coolers that use a 775 backplate fitting, including I suspect the venerable Ninja 1000.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by CA_Steve » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:23 am

rpsgc wrote:That last comment was mine :P
I remember that thread :D

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by cmthomson » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:36 pm

lodestar wrote:The 775 mounting holes mean that any push-pin type fitting will work. However 1155 motherboards have a CPU socket backplate which I think will interfere with 775 coolers that use a 775 backplate fitting, including I suspect the venerable Ninja 1000.
Here's a review where a guy says he got a Ninja2 (push pin) to work with a bit of effort.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/28579 ... asus-p8p67

Surely after all these months someone here has direct experience with an Asrock extreme4 and a 775 heat sink!?
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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by cmthomson » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:43 pm

Hmm, after looking around some more, I finally found a photo of the back of this board on Newegg. It does indeed have a backplate that would interfere with the original Ninja backplate. Bummer. But maybe with longer bolts, or just some washers, all would be well... :?

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by lodestar » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:55 pm

The Noctua NM-13 fitting kit uses a backplate similar to Scythe's and it is suitable for 775 and 1155. This is achieved by a layer of rubber so that the Noctua backplate fits both over and around the 1155 backplate. The Noctua backplate is also notched to clear screws securing the 1155 backplate. I can't see any reason though why a simpler solution like washers should not work with the Scythe backplate provided the existing bolts are long enough, or some longer bolts can be found.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by bonestonne » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:41 am

The very original Ninja used S478 mounting clips, and an adapter with the 775 socket. All things considered, knowing the back plate setup on the newer 1156 and 1155 boards, as well as even 1366, it would be difficult, if not impossible to make it work.

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by EdgarD » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:27 am

Hey guys,

have bought scythe Ninja around 8 years ago, which was originally mounted on 939 socket;
recently i have decided to upgrade my PC, but to leave several parts from my old PC - PSU, GPU and Ninja cooler;
The problem was to figure out if it was possible to mount original Scythe ninja on 1155 socket;
Other components; motherboard - Gigabyte Z77x-UD3H; i5 - 3570K; 8Gb crucial ballistix; Antec P280; SSD Corsair 128 Gb GS

I have read many posts and searched for mounting clips that could possibly do the job; many of the posts are claiming its impossible to mount old Ninja on 1155; I`m using 1155/1156 Mugen 2 Conversion Kit, and as you will see it does the job, although the mounting process is a bit frustrating - you must do it upside down;

Hope this helps!
Best wishes.

P.S. it`s shame only 3 pics are allowed
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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by Tobias » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:51 am

Edgar, are you still around? Is there any issues with ram modules being obstructed?

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Re: Socket 1156 adapter for (original) Scythe Ninja

Post by EdgarD » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:28 am

Hey,

no problems whatsoever, you could probably even go with something with more extreme cooling like dominator...
they will not interfere...

hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Edgar

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