Black Yate Loon "D12SL-12" Quality? and 5v/7v RPM?

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Black Yate Loon "D12SL-12" Quality? and 5v/7v RPM?

Post by QO » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:08 pm

Hey guys, I'm picking up a batch of black Yate Loon "D12SL-12" fans.

How are the quality of these fans? By that I mean, what are the chances of getting a bad one with clicking noises? I need 6, how many extra should I get to make sure I get no bad clicking ones?

Also does anyone know how fast these fans spin at 5v? and also at 7v?

Thank you in advance,

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:36 am

Greetings,

You might get 1 or 2 extra?

At 12v, I believe they spin at 1350RPM, so 5v should be ~700-800RPM and 7v could be in the 900-1000RPM range?

IHTH

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Post by QO » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:55 am

Thanks for the reply. I ordered a few extra so that if one of them has clicking noises or something I can use another one.

So 5v should be virtually silent from approx 1meter away? I hope two of them in push/pull moves enough air to cool a Ninja on an overclocked opteron.

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:13 pm

Hello,

Yes, at 5v they will be very quiet -- mostly just the air whooshing. :)

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Post by psiu » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:02 pm

Got a follow-up question for the fan gurus in here, I just bought one of these (Yate Loon D12SL-12) with the RPM monitoring built in ( this one)

which has the 3 pin motherboard plug with RPM sensing, and then a standard 4 pin plug setup.

Is there a way to plug the fan into a power supply plug to get 5 volts but still have RPM monitoring? Or is it one or the other? (I currently have it drawing power from mobo...)

EDIT: for clarity, I understand the how of getting it to 5v, but don't think it would work if it was still plugged into the motherboard for rpm monitoring...at least not the way it's shipped.

Would pulling the voltage lines out...sweet, I think I just answered my own question!

Pull voltage lines out of 3 pin mobo adapter. Cover with electrical tape. Plug 4 pin connector to PSU plug, and 3 pin adapter (with just the rpm line still plugged in) to the mobo? That would work, wouldn't it?

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Post by Tibors » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:09 pm

I would only pull the middle wire from the 3-pin plug. That leaves the RPM sensing and the ground wire in place. On some mobo's that ground wire is needed for the sensing to work. Besides that is the way all PSU's (that I know of) that have a sensing plug for their fan work.

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Post by psiu » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:43 pm

Sounds about right now that I think about my PSU. Will take a look at things tomorrow afternoon.

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Post by QO » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:49 pm

I just tested the Coolermaster Black 120mm 1220rpm quiet fan @7v...it's fairly loud...=/ It's pretty close to the Yate Loon in terms of rpm so I definitely hope 5v fairs better. :(

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Post by QO » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:04 pm

Bummer, I just tested at 5v. It's not bad, but it's not as quiet as I expected or would like. Given that the stock rpm of the coolermaster is already 100 less than the Yate Loon, I'm have a feeling I might be very dissapointed when I actually receive the YLs. Hopefully I can pad up the stacker 830 with enough sound proofing foam to make it "virtually" silent :(

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Post by QO » Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:21 pm

Hmm, it was the LED coolermaster that sucked @5v.

The black one didn't even start. It was moderately acceptable in terms of noise, after I gave it a push start though.

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Post by GHz » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:05 pm

The Yate Loon D12SL-12 is quieter than the Coolermaster... less bearing noise. You'll be happier with it IMO, unless you get a dud. Alternatively, you can get a Global Win ceramic-bearing fan which is even quieter than the YL fan if you're really looking for silence.

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Post by QO » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:34 pm

It's tough in Canada, not much of a choice. Originally I was going for Nexus Real Silent's, but the place for $16 each was out of stock and I wasn't about to pay $20 per fan. So I ended up with YLs @ $11 each.

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Post by Badger » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:54 pm

Can anyone tell me how a Yate Loon D12SL-12 at 5 volts compares to the Nexus Real Silent 120mm at 5 volts? Does the Yate Loon spin at a higher speed than the Nexus at 5 volts, and thus create more noise?

Thank you

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Post by GHz » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:04 pm

The Nexus 120mm D12SL-12 is just a low-speed Yate Loon fan. The Yate Loon will make more noise @ 5V simply because it has a higher top speed.

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Post by QO » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:08 pm

Badger wrote:Can anyone tell me how a Yate Loon D12SL-12 at 5 volts compares to the Nexus Real Silent 120mm at 5 volts? Does the Yate Loon spin at a higher speed than the Nexus at 5 volts, and thus create more noise?

Thank you
My lot of 10 Yate Loons have arrived. At 5v the Nexus would definitely spin at a lower rpm and be quieter :p. But the Yate Loons are close to silence (@5v) from a little distance away. They vary a bit from sample to sample though. I have 2 out of 10 that are VERY quiet. No bearing/motor whine. The others have a little but are still very quiet at 5v.
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Post by Badger » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:08 pm

Thank you very much, QO.

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Post by mathias » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:32 pm

Badger wrote:Can anyone tell me how a Yate Loon D12SL-12 at 5 volts compares to the Nexus Real Silent 120mm at 5 volts? Does the Yate Loon spin at a higher speed than the Nexus at 5 volts, and thus create more noise?
If it fails to start up, then yeah a nexus ought to be quieter at 5 volts. They should be much more similar at their minimum speeds (= different voltages).

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Post by cyberman » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:38 pm

GHz wrote: Alternatively, you can get a Global Win ceramic-bearing fan which is even quieter than the YL fan if you're really looking for silence.
Really???

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:54 pm

Greetings,

I just got a GlobalWin NCB 120mm, and yes it is a bit quieter than the Yate Loon low speed at all voltages (12, 7, and 5). The NCB also blows a touch less air, and while it does start at 5v, it is a near thing -- it takes about 3-5 seconds to come up to speed. But it is very quiet -- with only occasional bearing noises. These are quite soft and really depend on the orientation and in reaction to handling it. The YL is a touch more consistent in what you hear.

The NCB at 5v only blows a small amount of air -- it might be worth running it this way in the front of a case, to help move air over the HD's, say, but it would probably not be adequate as the only exhaust fan in all but the coolest systems.

At 12v, the YL is rated at 1350RPM, and judging by the difference in the pitch of the sound, I'd say that the NCB turns 150-200RPM slower at 12v. At 5v a very rough guesstimate would be 500-600RPM for the Yate Loon, and 400-500RPM for the GlobalWin NCB (New Century Bearing).

This Yate Loon has smaller, round support struts than the other YL's I have seen, and the blades have more sweep, have sharper leading edges w/ a radius on the leading corner, and are thinner, too. The NCB fan's blades are broader and have a larger gap at the outer edge.

I'll post some pictures tomorrow.

I don't have a Nexus on hand to comapre to, but the GlobalWin NCB would likely give it a run for it -- and it costs about half as much, and has a claimed lifespan of 80,000 hours. It has just a 3-pin connector.

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Post by cyberman » Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:20 pm

NeilBlanchard wrote:Greetings,

I just got a GlobalWin NCB 120mm, and yes it is a bit quieter than the Yate Loon low speed at all voltages (12, 7, and 5). The NCB also blows a touch less air, and while it does start at 5v, it is a near thing -- it takes about 3-5 seconds to come up to speed. But it is very quiet -- with only occasional bearing noises. These are quite soft and really depend on the orientation and in reaction to handling it. The YL is a touch more consistent in what you hear.

The NCB at 5v only blows a small amount of air -- it might be worth running it this way in the front of a case, to help move air over the HD's, say, but it would probably not be adequate as the only exhaust fan in all but the coolest systems.

At 12v, the YL is rated at 1350RPM, and judging by the difference in the pitch of the sound, I'd say that the NCB turns 150-200RPM slower at 12v. At 5v a very rough guesstimate would be 500-600RPM for the Yate Loon, and 400-500RPM for the GlobalWin NCB (New Century Bearing).

This Yate Loon has smaller, round support struts than the other YL's I have seen, and the blades have more sweep, have sharper leading edges w/ a radius on the leading corner, and are thinner, too. The NCB fan's blades are broader and have a larger gap at the outer edge.

I'll post some pictures tomorrow.

I don't have a Nexus on hand to comapre to, but the GlobalWin NCB would likely give it a run for it -- and it costs about half as much, and has a claimed lifespan of 80,000 hours. It has just a 3-pin connector.
Awesome. Thanks for posting your experience.

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Post by edlight1 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:06 pm

I've received one Yate 120 in the mail.

I find that I can pull the fan away from the hub quite a ways, as if it's on a spring. If I put it in my psu it will be blowing up and thus the fan will pull back to the maximum.

Are Yate's normally like this? Has anyone run them blowing up for a period of time?

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