??? Yate Loon Fan Source

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??? Yate Loon Fan Source

Post by coccopine » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:38 pm

Hello,

I have been reading all of the posts about the Nexus (Yate Loon) fans. I wasn't able to track any down at geeks.com, tekgems, or isellsurplus. I am also not real fond of the orange color (personal preference) or the $20.00 price tag for the Nexus fans. I was also looking for a fan that gave more RPM potential if needed (it gets very hot where I live) but could also be turned down for acoustics when appropriate.

Anyway, I found these fans (see link below) after much searching over the past couple of days. They appear to be Yate Loon model D12SM-12 (although unable to confirm at this point). They are $5.50 each or 10 for $45.00. I ordered a couple yesterday to check them out. I have no idea whether they are any good or not. Everyone here has been so helpful I just thought I would share this info.

I ordered them yesterday afternoon and received my shipping confirmation and UPS tracking number by email today. If you feel adventerous the link to the page is below.

Thanks for all the great info.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pctekonline ... sefan.html :(

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Post by DyJohnnY » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:28 pm

thing is the picture doesn't point to the DS12M's we know about, please take a picture of the fans u receive maybe the picture at the store is not related

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Post by Bluefront » Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:36 pm

Maybe you got lucky. The label design certainly looks like a Yate Loon. They make a number of slightly different fans.....looks like this fan doesn't have rpm monitoring. But it should still be quiet.

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Black D12SM-12

Post by frankgehry » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:31 pm

I have a black D12SM-12, but I suppose the one at pctek could also be a D12SL-12 or something all together different. I went ahead and ordered 10 hoping that it will have rpm sensing. They are in New Jersey so I should get mine soon. - FG

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Post by joshd2012 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:46 pm

That description says it is a four-pin. Does Yate Loon make 4-pins?

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Post by joshd2012 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:01 pm

joshd2012 wrote:That description says it is a four-pin. Does Yate Loon make 4-pins? I know they make a combo of both, but a 4 pin only?

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Post by Bluefront » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:17 pm

FWIW...I have two all-black Yate Loon 120s that came with a two-pin plug. No RPM monitor wire. They came as case fans in an Ahanix Black Knight case. They sound about like the Orange Yate Loons from CompGeeks that run about 1400rpm.

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Post by joshd2012 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:32 pm

I contacted the company and they gave me the label data:

DC Brushless
D12SM-12
DC 12V 0.30A
TUV, CE Approved
Yateloon Electronics

From Yateloon website:

D12SM-12
120x120x25
12V
1650RPM
70.5CFM
33dB

How does this one compare to the D12SL-12?

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:57 pm

Hello Josh:

The low speed version is about 300 RPM lower speed.

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Post by joshd2012 » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:45 am

Yeah, I just noticed that. *Sigh* Oh well. I may have picked up a pair just have some extra power if needed, but they only have a 4-pin connector, which is pretty worthless to me.

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Post by frankgehry » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:39 am

No way. The listing does not give you any information. As you discovered it is a D12SM-12. It probably has a 4 pin and a 3 pin connector just like the orange and clear blue fans from tekgems. Be optimistic. - FG

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Post by joshd2012 » Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:08 pm

frankgehry wrote:No way. The listing does not give you any information. As you discovered it is a D12SM-12. It probably has a 4 pin and a 3 pin connector just like the orange and clear blue fans from tekgems. Be optimistic. - FG
I did ask them, after they sent me the label saying it was Yate Loon, if it was only a 4-pin. They verified it was. Trust me, I was ready to pick up 4 of these things if they were 3-pin. But now, I have no desire.

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Post by frankgehry » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:14 pm

Oh. Well that's dissapointing. I'll probably have 10 of them tomorrow. - FG

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Post by moshen » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:33 pm

what's wrong with having a 4 pin on it instead of a 3 pin?

i wouldn't care if it had stripped leads... just make your own connector...

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Post by joshd2012 » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:55 pm

moshen wrote:what's wrong with having a 4 pin on it instead of a 3 pin?

i wouldn't care if it had stripped leads... just make your own connector...
AFAIK, the 4-pin connectors don't support RPM monitoring. The three pin connectors have two power wires and a RPM monitor. The 4 pin connectors only have two power wires. I think.

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rpm sensing

Post by frankgehry » Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:58 pm

M,

There may not be anything wrong but I'm not sure that they will have rpm sensing. Even if they don't it will be OK, but I like to be able to read the speed w/fan controller. - FG

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Post by ultraboy » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:14 pm

Frank,

If it comes with 2 wires, you might try looking at fan hub to see whether there's a third connecting point there. If there's one then connect it to you fan header. I've got rpm sensing out of a few 2-wire fans this way - though not always the case.

You might get lucky, who knows. :wink:

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Post by Tzupy » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:40 am

Hi,
Does anyone know where to find Yate Loon fans in the UK?
Nexus fans are available in the UK, but are pretty expensive...

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Post by frankgehry » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:18 pm

My fans from pctekonline came yesterday exactly as advertised. I haven't had a chance to test them. - FG

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Post by ilh » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:20 pm

Frank, I'm very interested in hearing how these compare with some of the others you've tested recently.

--Lee

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testing

Post by frankgehry » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:27 pm

ilh,

I'll be testing these with a few others in a couple of days - FG

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pctekonline - yate loon 80mm also?

Post by Undervoltron » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:15 am

After following this post for a while, I decided to see if pctekonline has any other interesting fans. It seems the only other fan they stock looks like a Yate Loon 80mm. Again, no specs posted, and it's a lousy pic, but they are only $2.75/ea. or 10 for $20.

http://store.yahoo.com/pctekonline/8cmcasefan.html

I seem to remember people on the forum mentioning that 80mm nexus / yate loon are not as high quality as the 120s, but at this price I might pick up a couple to try anyway. You can also choose 3 or 4-pin termination, if that is something you are concerned with.

Frank, I look forward to your testing results on the D12SM fans. I'll probably throw a couple of those of those in my order also.

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3 pin

Post by frankgehry » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:56 am

UV,

Yes I was hoping that that the 120s would have speed sensors, but I will have to calibrate a fanmate and estimate the speed from voltage. I did call the guy at pctek and asked him if he could get them with rpm sensing like the 80mm version and he said he would call the warehouse. I would really like to know what else is in the warehouse.

You could do a quick review of the 80mm version and include it in the thread, or maybe just send a picture showing the connector and the yate loon label. - FG

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Post by Undervoltron » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:12 pm

You could do a quick review of the 80mm version and include it in the thread, or maybe just send a picture showing the connector and the yate loon label.
That's the plan. I won't be getting them until at least next week though - going to be out of town until Sunday. I will keep you posted on the 80s and send pics as soon as I get them.
Yes I was hoping that that the 120s would have speed sensors, but I will have to calibrate a fanmate and estimate the speed from voltage.
RPM monitoring never really was an attraction for me, though I can understand why you might need it if you really are fine-tunig. I just want the fans to move the air and do it quietly. :P I hook up all of my fans using 4-pin molex connectors rewired to get 5V or 7V. Up to this point I've just been too cheap to buy a fan controller, but I'll probably get a fanmate or 2 if only to test these new yate loons.

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Re: 3 pin

Post by joshd2012 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:58 pm

frankgehry wrote:I would really like to know what else is in the warehouse.
As would all of us. If you get him on the phone again, see if he can get a good price on some D12SL-12s.

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Post by warlock110 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:05 pm

frankgehry wrote:My fans from pctekonline came yesterday exactly as advertised. I haven't had a chance to test them. - FG

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did a review for this stuff came yet?

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review

Post by frankgehry » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:53 pm

W,

There's a review and some user comments in the user review forum. The thread is two loons a papst and a coolermaster. - FG

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Post by Lupy » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:37 pm

Looks like a nice fan, esp for the price, I am thinking about ordering some, anyone know anything about the 80mm fan he has for $2.75 It's listed as a CF0808

Thanks
Ken

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yate loon 80mm - first impressions

Post by Undervoltron » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:35 pm

I am thinking about ordering some, anyone know anything about the 80mm fan he has for $2.75 It's listed as a CF0808
It's a medium speed yate loon. I received my order of them today (along with a couple 120s - great recommendation Frank). I did some A/B testing with a panaflo L1A (Japan) at different voltages, and In a couple days I will post pics and more details after they have had a chance to break in. For now:

The model number listed on the bearing label is "8025M 12". There is no model number that matches this on the YL website, but it is very close to this:

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewto ... 297#144297

As far as sound goes, read Bluefront's comments at the top of that same post - I agree it is the best 80mm I have used. The YL at 7 volts seems about equal in volume to the L1A at 5V, while obviously moving more air. I couldn't get the YL to start at 5V, so my comparison is far from scientific! :? The YL's bearing noise also seems to be of the gentle "sssshhhh" variety that blends in with the sound of the airflow. Contrast this with my L1A, which clicks noticeably no matter what the voltage. Currently the YL has replaced an L1A cooling the CPU, and eventually the other L1A in my psu will get bumped as well.

On a side note, thanks to everyone at SPCR. Your advice and experience have been very helpful while lurking this forum for the past year or so.

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