New 180mm case fans
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New 180mm case fans
I just found this news on Matbe today (translated in english). They're talking about new 180mm case fans! I'm wondering how quiet they are and mainly, how we're gonna put those inside a normal case!
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No way. It can't be very powerful, it doesn't even have a large centre hub. Plus it's plastic. There's lots of other fans, such as Deltas, and Cor-something Rotrons(the 172mm ones with the metal blades) which would be far better choices for attempting to kill people with.breakspirit wrote:that fan could kill a person
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I was really just joking. However, I did once get my finger in a 7000rpm delta and it quickly became a bloody mess all over.mathias wrote:No way. It can't be very powerful, it doesn't even have a large centre hub. Plus it's plastic. There's lots of other fans, such as Deltas, and Cor-something Rotrons(the 172mm ones with the metal blades) which would be far better choices for attempting to kill people with.breakspirit wrote:that fan could kill a person
wow, 180mm fans, i want one right now! just imagine that monster at 400rpm, pushing lots of air, it should be quiet at very low speeds.
i even know how to mount it on the side cover, to replace my 120mm aluminium Evercool: http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=20515
i even know how to mount it on the side cover, to replace my 120mm aluminium Evercool: http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=20515
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My first impression is that it might be going to far. I mean, what will this fan really do for you that a 120mm fan won't? It really would need to run 400rpm in order to be quiet. And will it really be blowing much more air than a 120mm fan at 700rpm? Will it be much more quiet? And the airflow will be even more spread out than a 120mm fan. So it won't provide any directed airflow.
Just some thoughts I had.
Just some thoughts I had.
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Green Shoes wrote:so how long until we see the "ceiling fan mod" popping up on the forums?
Seriously though, people are getting more and more weary of LARGE computers (I know I am). There was a time when fullish towers were much more popular, now most people stop at mid towers (other than stacker, v2000 etc). Other than that, this could be OK I guess, although it'll let correspondingly more noise out.
Instead of modding a ceiling fan to the back or side of a computer case, why not do it the other way around? Stick a motherboard right under the ceiling fan that is already in the middle of the room!
Or maybe you want to stick the motherboard above the ceiling fan. I have not thought through the "blow vs suck" arguments yet.
Or maybe you want to stick the motherboard above the ceiling fan. I have not thought through the "blow vs suck" arguments yet.
That really didn't make sense. What did people need those huge cases for back then? Airflow was hardly an issue, Most people didn't have CD-writers, and earlier, not even CD-rom drives, never mind fan controllers or display pannels. Not only were CD-drives expensive, but IDE would probably have been bottlenecked by two drives sharing a channel(correct me if I'm wrong), and hard drives were expensive too.tay wrote:Seriously though, people are getting more and more weary of LARGE computers (I know I am). There was a time when fullish towers were much more popular, now most people stop at mid towers (other than stacker, v2000 etc).
Maybe we'll see a turnaraund back to huge cases. Maybe wide ones, with DVD changers.
I dont really know (need is such an interesting word) but I remember it being the case in the enthusiast/OC crowds. It was right after people started shying away from desktop cases. Anyway, I think smaller PC's have a much better wife acceptance factor and the smaller cases can be used more than just in a home-office especially now with thin LCDs.mathias wrote:That really didn't make sense. What did people need those huge cases for back then?
To fit stuff. Ever see a vesa local bus card? Expansion cards used to run the full length of the motherboard--and then some. Also, a 5.25" drive used to refer to a floppy disc, not a CD-ROM. And of course, there's a reason why "half-height" drives are called "half-height". Guess how high they used to be!mathias wrote:That really didn't make sense. What did people need those huge cases for back then?tay wrote:Seriously though, people are getting more and more weary of LARGE computers (I know I am). There was a time when fullish towers were much more popular, now most people stop at mid towers (other than stacker, v2000 etc).
There was also a time when the serial and parallel ports that are now stuffed in an ATX mobo backplane often consumed expansion slot backplanes. And you also consumed expansion slots on a disc controller. Heck, you could consume an expansion slot on a MOUSE controller.
Computer stuff used to be just plain bulkier than today's stuff. I really don't see it going back to how it was before.
Check this picture out, its from a Finnish computer magazine, number 12 of year 1990.
Here´s a quick translation by me..
FOUR GIGABYTES!
If you need really large amounts of mass-storage or just want to own the largest hard-drive station on the block, the Storage Dimension four gigabyte is the solution. The price is 30.000$, but what would not pay to be the king of the hill?
Here´s a quick translation by me..
FOUR GIGABYTES!
If you need really large amounts of mass-storage or just want to own the largest hard-drive station on the block, the Storage Dimension four gigabyte is the solution. The price is 30.000$, but what would not pay to be the king of the hill?
Oh yeah, I forgot my on topic comment earlier:atomidude wrote:would you please mind being on topic? we are discussing about 18cm fans, in case you forgot...
I can see potential usefulness for large diameter fans if it's the one fan in the system. You'd use multiple ducts from the fan to feed air separately to the PSU, CPU, GPU. By using multiple ducts, you get essentially the same effect as multiple smaller fans directly feeding fresh air separately to each component. However, there's potentially less noise and the airflow can theoretically be generated with less loss in turbulence.
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That wasn't even that long ago, either; a computer I built 6 years ago filled 7 PCI slots with crap; the one I built last week had everything but the video built onto the motherboard this time around. It's a nice feeling to not have your case so stinking crowded.IsaacKuo wrote:To fit stuff. Ever see a vesa local bus card? Expansion cards used to run the full length of the motherboard--and then some. Also, a 5.25" drive used to refer to a floppy disc, not a CD-ROM. And of course, there's a reason why "half-height" drives are called "half-height". Guess how high they used to be!mathias wrote:That really didn't make sense. What did people need those huge cases for back then?tay wrote:Seriously though, people are getting more and more weary of LARGE computers (I know I am). There was a time when fullish towers were much more popular, now most people stop at mid towers (other than stacker, v2000 etc).
There was also a time when the serial and parallel ports that are now stuffed in an ATX mobo backplane often consumed expansion slot backplanes. And you also consumed expansion slots on a disc controller. Heck, you could consume an expansion slot on a MOUSE controller.
Computer stuff used to be just plain bulkier than today's stuff. I really don't see it going back to how it was before.
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I remember when it was no-fans-required (except maybe a milk bottle on top of the Speccy to prevent overheating). You need a Welcome to SPCR!mantrogo wrote:4Gb mini-ipod £150...
Sometimes forget just how fast things change - gee I remember when it was 80mm fans or 80mm fans only but then I'm practically a fossil...
I think IsaacKuo has a great idea. Four 90mm ducts (approx...) would provide great spot cooling, and since the hottest components don't recycle their air it should mean even less noise. The only thing we need now is a case that will fit such a large fan...
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