Tower heatpipe CPU-coolers?
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Tower heatpipe CPU-coolers?
I'm probably about to build a new setup sometime late this summer, and I've always been into using the XP-120 to cool my CPU.
Recently I began thinking if this really would be the optimal solution. Maybe a tower heatpipe cooler would disturb the airflow less than the XP-120 with a fan blowing downwards.
I've seen many tower coolers out there, but it all seems like a djungle to me. Wich one is the best? I've seen that Schythe has quite a lot of them, also Thermaltake (brrr..) and the Titan Vanessa L.
Would any of them be a better choise, perhaps wth some ducting to the rear fan?
Recently I began thinking if this really would be the optimal solution. Maybe a tower heatpipe cooler would disturb the airflow less than the XP-120 with a fan blowing downwards.
I've seen many tower coolers out there, but it all seems like a djungle to me. Wich one is the best? I've seen that Schythe has quite a lot of them, also Thermaltake (brrr..) and the Titan Vanessa L.
Would any of them be a better choise, perhaps wth some ducting to the rear fan?
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I'm not going for passive cooling. I will overclock my rig a bit, and play games too.
The point was if there was any cooler better than the XP120 i terms of exploiting the airflow. The XP120 with a fan on it blowing downwards would disturb the airflow quite a bit. A tower heatpipe cooler with a 120mm fan on its side, pointing directly at the rear fan, would be a much better use of the airflow.
Maybe I'll go for the XP120 though, it seems like it would work just fine anyway.
The point was if there was any cooler better than the XP120 i terms of exploiting the airflow. The XP120 with a fan on it blowing downwards would disturb the airflow quite a bit. A tower heatpipe cooler with a 120mm fan on its side, pointing directly at the rear fan, would be a much better use of the airflow.
Maybe I'll go for the XP120 though, it seems like it would work just fine anyway.
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Yeah, i was looking for something like that. The only thing that worries me is the heavy weight and cantilever force on those things, and also the orientation of them. Almost all tower coolers seem to end up facing the wrong direction on S939 boards. All of them seems to be designed for Intel's specificationspony-tail wrote:If you are a little brave there is always the Thermaltake sonic tower with a 120mm fan . they look rediculous but they work pretty well if you have the space.
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I'm not certain, but looking at the mounting plates for the coolermaster hyper 6 it looks like they have changed the way it is mounted with a universal mounting plate which should allow for mounting in any direction since this was one of the original complaints. It's also a little bit lighter. Most of the weight is in the base, but I intend to find some way to support the top if necessary.
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I got this :
http://www.studiedata.dk/productitem.as ... OLD,COCOCP
which is the same as this :
http://www.tweakers4u.de/artikel/vaness ... htm?page=2
-but with a different fan. I replaced the fan with a Papst 19db, mounted with small foam pads in the corners and lapped the surface of the heatsink. It holds my P4 [email protected] at 43Cidle/650 rpm and 52Cfullload/1600rpm (speedfan controlled) on an Abit Ic7-G (which is said to report temps 5-10C too high). At 650rpm the fan is inaudible to me; my vgasilencer in low mode is louder.
You can turn the heatsink in any direction You like as long as Nb-heatsink etc. doesn´t get in the way.
I let mine blow the air directly out of the back through a cut out rectangular hole - but i might want to make a duct to improve intake airflow through the bottom/front vent af the case and place a hd in the airstream.
http://www.studiedata.dk/productitem.as ... OLD,COCOCP
which is the same as this :
http://www.tweakers4u.de/artikel/vaness ... htm?page=2
-but with a different fan. I replaced the fan with a Papst 19db, mounted with small foam pads in the corners and lapped the surface of the heatsink. It holds my P4 [email protected] at 43Cidle/650 rpm and 52Cfullload/1600rpm (speedfan controlled) on an Abit Ic7-G (which is said to report temps 5-10C too high). At 650rpm the fan is inaudible to me; my vgasilencer in low mode is louder.
You can turn the heatsink in any direction You like as long as Nb-heatsink etc. doesn´t get in the way.
I let mine blow the air directly out of the back through a cut out rectangular hole - but i might want to make a duct to improve intake airflow through the bottom/front vent af the case and place a hd in the airstream.
If there is still any doubt, the Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja looks like it would fit your needs perfectly
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anything below 30dBA can not be measured unless you are in a soundproof room
you know, the ones with mouche on the walls:)
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=268
bedroom at night = 30dBA
radio broadcast studio (they have sound proofing) = 20dBA
so.. anything <30 dBA in a "normal" room is simply.. impossible
you know, the ones with mouche on the walls:)
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=268
bedroom at night = 30dBA
radio broadcast studio (they have sound proofing) = 20dBA
so.. anything <30 dBA in a "normal" room is simply.. impossible
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jmke, i believe MikeC would disagree with you. From that article:jmke wrote:anything below 30dBA can not be measured unless you are in a soundproof room
you know, the ones with mouche on the walls:)
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=268
bedroom at night = 30dBA
radio broadcast studio (they have sound proofing) = 20dBA
so.. anything <30 dBA in a "normal" room is simply.. impossible
take a look at the pics of the SPCR lab setup... it gets much lower than 30db and does not use commercial soundproofing.it has the benefit of a lower ambient noise floor (14 dBA after midnight), reduced reflections due to carpeting and heavy drapes, and larger dimensions (20' x 10' x 8') for reduced wall proximity effects in both recordings and SPL measurements.
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I know MikeC will disagree with me, fact is though that <30dBA readings are only possible in soundproof chamber, carpeting may help, but it's never going to make the ambient noise at 14dBA. I know he will be kicking me soon for saying this:) .
in my room, in the middle of the night, with everything turned off, and it's dead silent that I start feeling uncomfortable due to the absence of noise, the meter hits 29-30dBA.
in rooms like this: http://www.isvr.co.uk/faciliti/lg_anech.htm you can obtain <30dBA readings..
enjoy this read , it goes pretty in depth[/url]
in my room, in the middle of the night, with everything turned off, and it's dead silent that I start feeling uncomfortable due to the absence of noise, the meter hits 29-30dBA.
in rooms like this: http://www.isvr.co.uk/faciliti/lg_anech.htm you can obtain <30dBA readings..
enjoy this read , it goes pretty in depth[/url]
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Well, MikeC has some fairly sophisticated measuring equipment, showcased in his tour of the SPCR labs. Seeing as how he's able to measure his shuttle at 16db, I'm willing to accept that his room is AT LEAST that quiet. If it wasn't, the background noise is what would be detected by the sound equipment instead of the lower noise generated by the computer/fans/whatever.jmke wrote:I know MikeC will disagree with me, fact is though that <30dBA readings are only possible in soundproof chamber, carpeting may help, but it's never going to make the ambient noise at 14dBA. I know he will be kicking me soon for saying this:) .
I'm not after a fanless setup. I'm just trying to use the case airflow optimally.jmke wrote:if you want to go FANless , the XP-120 should not be at the top of the list, the Tower heatsinks handle that much better due to the larger surface area
If i use this in the P180, a fan will probably not be needed, but that's just a bonus.
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well.. if VIA used a certified anechoic chamber to measure their EPIA M10000 system (to one which is dead quiet) at 25dBA; then I would think twice to say that the Shuttle system would be ~16dBA.
http://www.via.com.tw/en/downloads/whit ... atters.pdf
http://www.via.com.tw/en/downloads/whit ... atters.pdf
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Actually that one isn't dead quiet at all. It has a horrible 40mm fan on the CPU cooler. There are several threads on this forum with questions how to make it more quiet. Also the fact that they did use an anechoic chamber doesn't mean that they needed one to reach this measurement.jmke wrote:[...]their EPIA M10000 system (to one which is dead quiet)
Some posts above you state that "fact is though that <30dBA readings are only possible in soundproof chamber". None of the links you provide in that post contain any evidence for that statement. Looking at the VIA whitepaper from your last post, it would seem you can't hear someone whispering at 5' (20 dBA @ 1m) in your bedroom, since the background noise is twice as loud as that. Actually according to you, the background noise in your bedroom is louder than the fan on the Epia. I can tell you my bedroom is a lot quieter than that fan.
I think you are not measuring the background noise from your bedroom, but the lower limit of the soundmeter you are using.