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AMD A64 TDP Poll

Post by MikeC » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:40 pm

By now, everyone who has an AMD A64 CPU should be aware that individual TDP info is embedded in recent "E" stepping processors. This is a poll to get an idea of the range of TDPs in A64 single-core processors. (pre-"E" stepping processors are not included in this poll.)

Use AMD64 TCaseMax v1.18 to obtain the info about your A64 processor. Please use the format below to report your info. Periodically, all the results from this list will be compiled and summarized in edits of this post.

There are several A64 "E" stepping processors at SPCR right now:

3000+, 939, Venice, Rev JH8-E3, 57°C, 44.1W
3500+, 939, Venice, Rev JH8-E3, 65°C, 67.0W
4000+, 939, San Diego, Rev JH8-E4, 59°C, 50.0W

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SUMMARY @ early morn, May 12/06 -

Ordered by power, low to high

3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 53C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, JH8-E6, 53°C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 53°C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 53°C, 32.4W
3500+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 36.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3700+, 939, SH8-E4, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, JH8-E3, 57°C, 44.1W
3000+, 939, JH8-E3, 57°C, 44.1W
3500+, 939, DH8-E6, 57°C, 44.1W
Op144, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
Op146, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
3700+, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
Op144, 939, SH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
4000+, 939, JH8-E4, 59°C, 50.0W
3200+, 939, BH9-E4, 61°C, 55.9W
Op146, 939, SH8-E4, 63°C, 61.8 W
3000+, 754, DH8-E6, 65°C, 67.0W
3500+, 939, JH8-E3, 65°C, 67.0W
Op146, 939, SH8-E4, 65°C, 67.0W

Ordered by processor, low to high

3000+, 939, JH8-E6, 53°C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 53C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 53°C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 53°C, 32.4W
3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3000+, 939, JH8-E3, 57°C, 44.1W
3000+, 939, JH8-E3, 57°C, 44.1W
3000+, 754, DH8-E6, 65°C, 67.0W

3200+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W
3200+, 939, BH9-E4, 61°C, 55.9W

Op144, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
Op144, 939, SH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W

3500+, 939, DH8-E3, 55°C, 36.4W
3500+, 939, DH8-E6, 57°C, 44.1W
3500+, 939, JH8-E3, 65°C, 67.0W

Op146, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
Op146, 939, SH8-E4, 63°C, 61.8W
Op146, 939, SH8-E4, 65°C, 67.0W

3700+, 939, SH8-E4, 55°C, 38.2W
3700+, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W

4000+, 939, JH8-E4, 59°C, 50.0W
Last edited by MikeC on Fri May 12, 2006 6:50 am, edited 8 times in total.
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Post by dragmor » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:25 pm

3500+, 939, Venice, Rev DH8-E3, 55°C, 36.4W
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Post by AZBrandon » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:26 pm

Using the "copy to clipboard" feature:

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2211.34 (201.03 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts
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Post by Hifriday » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:52 am

Opteron 144, 939, San Diego, Rev SH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W (1.400v)

MikeC, how about asking posters to include stable undervolt info? Although it does depend on many factors, probably not as variable as overclocking, and might give us a rough idea if TDP has any relation on how well a chip undervolts?

1.00v CrystalCPUID setting, 1.072v CPUz reading, stock speed, Prime95 stable 48h+ on ASUS A8NVM-CSM.
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Post by teejay » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:16 am

3000+, 939, Venice, DH8-E3,57�C,44.1W
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Post by Storm » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:23 am

Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 1000.00 (200.00 x 5.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 53C
TDP: 32.4 Watts
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Post by jaganath » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:44 am

TDP: 32.4 Watts
Wow, that is approaching mobile CPU territory. Highly impressive for a desktop chip.
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Post by .weir » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:19 pm

Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 1994.10 (199.41 x 10.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts

Finally I can play too!
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Re: AMD A64 TDP Poll

Post by winguy » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:55 pm

MikeC wrote:3000+, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
There's 3000+ E4 ?? Or is that 3200+?
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Re: AMD A64 TDP Poll

Post by MikeC » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:58 pm

winguy wrote:
MikeC wrote:3000+, 939, JH8-E4, 57°C, 44.1W
There's 3000+ E4 ?? Or is that 3200+?
It's what Storm reported.
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Post by eternizer » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:34 pm

Storm wrote:CPU Speed: 1000.00 (200.00 x 5.0)
Did you lower its multiplier? I thought 3000+ got multiplier 9.
Lowering multiplier doesn't change the reported TDP, does it?
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Post by winguy » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:33 am

There isn't any E4 3000+ as far as I recall (http://www.amdcompare.com), and no where did Storm report that. :)
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Post by buzzlightyear » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:13 am

Another data point

Opteron 144, 939, San Diego, SH8-E4, 57C, 44.1 Watts


AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 144 (San Diego),
CPU Speed: 2841.67 (315.74 x 9.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts
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Post by jaganath » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:55 am

CPU Speed: 2841.67 (315.74 x 9.0)
Wow! :twisted:

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What settings and RAM are you using to get that overclock?

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Post by winguy » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:10 am

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Post by msm_zgok » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:27 am

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 1809.27 (201.03 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts
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Post by eternizer » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:45 pm

Apparently different multiplier gives different TDP.
Storm's 3000+ (DH8-E6) and msm_zgok's 3000 (DH8-E6) show different TDPs...
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Post by wanky » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:23 pm

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2393.90 (265.99 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts

I run it overclocked to 2.4ghz (havent tried higher). I ran some test for undervolting and at this overclock it is 1 hour Prime Large FFT stable with only 1.225v. not bad i wonder how high it could overclock :lol:
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Post by ziphnor » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:27 am

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 1005.15 (201.03 x 5.0) [CnQ enabled, Z]
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts
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Post by winguy » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:18 am

Another E6 3000+:

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It appears the worst case scenario for E6 3000+ is 38.2W.
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Post by eternizer » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:22 pm

Another Venice 3000+ (939, E6) result. Everything's stock:

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It seems even the same models have different TDPs. msm_zgok reported above different TDP with seemingly the same processor as mine... :?
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Post by dorion » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:36 pm

I got:
3000+, 939, DH8-E6, 55°C, 38.2W

*editing my rambles.*
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Post by Storm » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:14 am

Sorry for not replying I was busy doing the stuff documented in this thread.

Anyway, I bought this CPU from ebay and it is now in my Zalman TNN 300. Heres a screen dump of the TCaseMax

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eternizer wrote:Did you lower its multiplier? I thought 3000+ got multiplier 9.
Lowering multiplier doesn't change the reported TDP, does it?
When I copied the information the CPU was in Cool'n'Quiet mode.

The Vcore is running at 1.14v
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Post by Mats » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:05 am

Op146, 939, SH8-E4, 63°C, 61.8 W

Hot running, can do over 3 GHz.


How to find out the thermal profile:
1 - Find the CPU in this document, A64 = page 30, FX = 56, X2 = 91.
2 - The thermal profile is a letter (row 5 if present).
3 - You find the corresponding themal profile on page 10 for A64, FX = 51, X2 = 86.
Opteron here, with the corresponding pages 25, and 10 - 11.


OSA146DAA5BN
CABYE 0540FPMW
1341199J50308

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2009.78 (200.98 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 61.8 Watts
Last edited by Mats on Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by Mats » Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:10 am

eternizer wrote:Lowering multiplier doesn't change the reported TDP, does it?
No, mine reports the same both when running at 400 and 3000 MHz.
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3500+ data

Post by srbliss » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:05 pm

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20FF2
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 2210.06 (200.91 x 11.0)
Revision: DH8-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts
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Post by Ekner » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:08 pm

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.19
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2200.08 (200.01 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C
TDP: 38.2 Watts
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Post by inti » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:51 pm

Opteron 146 here: same numbers as the 144 which you already have

Opt 146, 939, SH8-E4, 57?C, 44.1W
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Post by BigA » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:06 pm

3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 55?C, 38.2W
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Post by marcmercer » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:58 pm

3000+, 939, DH8-E3, 53C, 32.4W

I was initially annoyed when i got an E3 chip instead of an E6. Can't complain if that TDP is accurate though.

Marc
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