Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA : No AAM support too !
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Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA : No AAM support too !
Like the Seagate Cuda V SATA (please read thread: WARNING - no 'quiet seek' for Barracuda V SATA!), Maxtor SATA HDD do not support AAM features too !
Here the reply of Maxtor about the DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA :
"...Unfortunately, we do not have any acoustic management software for any of our SATA drives and these drives are not designed to work with acoustic management software.
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Kind regards,
Brian TS54
Technical Support Team,
Maxtor Ireland Ltd."
Thanks to Suprise for the information about Convolve patent issue (http://www.convolve.com/pr2000-7-12a.html) with Seagate and Compaq.
It seems to be the same problem with Maxtor. Don't know if the WD Raptor SATA has AAM features or not...
So... no more real silent HDD in the future ??? Or is SATA HDDs supports, unofficially, AAM features ? How to know that ?
Well, HDD manufacturers must find a new technology to reduce the noisy heads issue...
Here the reply of Maxtor about the DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA :
"...Unfortunately, we do not have any acoustic management software for any of our SATA drives and these drives are not designed to work with acoustic management software.
...
Kind regards,
Brian TS54
Technical Support Team,
Maxtor Ireland Ltd."
Thanks to Suprise for the information about Convolve patent issue (http://www.convolve.com/pr2000-7-12a.html) with Seagate and Compaq.
It seems to be the same problem with Maxtor. Don't know if the WD Raptor SATA has AAM features or not...
So... no more real silent HDD in the future ??? Or is SATA HDDs supports, unofficially, AAM features ? How to know that ?
Well, HDD manufacturers must find a new technology to reduce the noisy heads issue...
I don't think I'd be too concerned about noise with the SATA DiamonadMax Pro 9 - from a recent review at HotHardware:
"We didn't compare the drive to every disk in our lab but the DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA drive has quieter spindle and read head acoustics than either the Western Digital SE or Barracuda V drives we tested."
They make some other accoustic assessments as well. This looks like the best combination of relative quiet and high (I mean REALLY high) performance out there right now... can't wait till the 160 gig hits Toronto so I can build a RAID array with 'em.
"We didn't compare the drive to every disk in our lab but the DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA drive has quieter spindle and read head acoustics than either the Western Digital SE or Barracuda V drives we tested."
They make some other accoustic assessments as well. This looks like the best combination of relative quiet and high (I mean REALLY high) performance out there right now... can't wait till the 160 gig hits Toronto so I can build a RAID array with 'em.
Speculation. I've got a call into the president of Convolve (at his invitation) to find out the status of the lawsuits with Seagate and Compaq and to see if they have licensed the Quiet Seek et. al. technologies to other manufacturers. I'll report back after we talk.Unicron wrote:This is probably because of the same patent problems that Seagate has. ,snip>
They just had to turn AAM of because the can't use it because of the patent
1. I'm always suspicious of acoustic assessments that come from a source other than SPCR unless they substantiate them with some numbers or test methodology. Otherwise I'm a victim of someone's subjective assessment of noise. Caveat: the hothardware review gives more methodological info than most.Herb W. wrote:I don't think I'd be too concerned about noise with the SATA DiamonadMax Pro 9 - from a recent review at HotHardware:
"We didn't compare the drive to every disk in our lab but the DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA drive has quieter spindle and read head acoustics than either the Western Digital SE or Barracuda V drives we tested."
They make some other accoustic assessments as well. This looks like the best combination of relative quiet and high (I mean REALLY high) performance out there right now... can't wait till the 160 gig hits Toronto so I can build a RAID array with 'em.
2. They didn't have AAM turned on for their Seagate 'Cuda V testing, so a V with AAM would be projected as the quieter of the two drives. Though at a performance cost.
3. "Seek (sound power: bel) 3.5" is not all that quiet and with no AAM, you won't be able to turn it down. Depends on your noise level tolerance.
4. It does seem like the DM+9 SATA is a step in the right direction.
Looks like some adventurous and wealthy soul at SPCR will need to get one and give us their feedback, especially with the drive suspended.
I have a DM+9 (PATA) and I find it pretty good; almost no audible whine and the click not to be too bad. I'm gonna try enabling AAM with the Hitachi feature tool later. I don't like seek noise, but it can be useful to know what my computer is doing....
If anyone cares to send my folding farm a barracuda 5 or a 7200.7, I'll do a careful comparison
If anyone cares to send my folding farm a barracuda 5 or a 7200.7, I'll do a careful comparison
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well i got a 7200.7 and a dm9 pata, and well the seagate owns the maxtor for noise. seagate is pretty much silent, a smidge of intermitent idle whine. dm9 on spin up and down makes alot of odd noises, and sounds like a fan (airflow woosh). seaking, again seagate by alot, ok maxtor isnt suspened but its way louder, dryer sound. seagate is like its in liquid and very quiet
7200.7 is 80gig 1 platter vs 160gig 2 platter dm9
7200.7 is 80gig 1 platter vs 160gig 2 platter dm9