E4300, low power CPU for desktop
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It's on zipzoomflyas well, although well above the expected $166 price.
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I did an online chat on the NewEgg site, asked them if they would have the E4300 soon. Answer was the person on the line had no knowledge of stocking information such as that.
I decided to go ahead and order from TigerDirect. So hopefully next week I can start building my new quiet desktop, which I've been putting off for about a month. Ordered a Scythe Ninja from Egg for cooling. I'll post a few benchmark numbers of my own when I put it together.
I decided to go ahead and order from TigerDirect. So hopefully next week I can start building my new quiet desktop, which I've been putting off for about a month. Ordered a Scythe Ninja from Egg for cooling. I'll post a few benchmark numbers of my own when I put it together.
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Wasn't planning to overclock it permanently but I'll play around with that some. My main design goal is a quiet medium power system that does double-duty as an HTPC. So it will be on 24x7 and leaving it overclocked would just be more heat and power wasted.
I noticed that NewEgg is now listing the E4300 at $189, which is even more of a first-buyer ripoff price than usual for NewEgg. On the other hand it does show it with free shipping which evens things a litte. Meh. Anyhow mine won't show up until Tuesday, the disadavantage of living in NorCal and ordering from TigerDirect is the long ship-times. The DS3 I ordered from the Egg will be here this evening.
I noticed that NewEgg is now listing the E4300 at $189, which is even more of a first-buyer ripoff price than usual for NewEgg. On the other hand it does show it with free shipping which evens things a litte. Meh. Anyhow mine won't show up until Tuesday, the disadavantage of living in NorCal and ordering from TigerDirect is the long ship-times. The DS3 I ordered from the Egg will be here this evening.
The price is supposed to drop dramatically in February to something like USD $113.
I think NewEgg's high prices are due to their initial limited supply (i.e. Intel's wholesale price per unit is higher for limited quantities). My experience with NewEgg is that their prices drop signficantly once they can wholesale purchase more units.
I would definitely wait about a month. This will be an amazing CPU for a little over $100!
I think NewEgg's high prices are due to their initial limited supply (i.e. Intel's wholesale price per unit is higher for limited quantities). My experience with NewEgg is that their prices drop signficantly once they can wholesale purchase more units.
I would definitely wait about a month. This will be an amazing CPU for a little over $100!
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We have all kinds of folks interested in this chip. It's not always about money, or going the fastest, or the most quiet. Everyone is looking to balance their needs to different values.
For me, this chip will give similar performance to E6300 and use less power. So griping about how the current pricing seems unfair, really doesn't matter to me. I could buy an E6300 and get the same performance, but pay for it in heat. If your intent is not overclocking but just mid-range performance, this looks like a good CPU. Some may want to wait for price drops. For me the convenience of having it right now is worth a few bucks.
My E4300 should arrive tomorrow night. Haven't built a PC since 2001 this should be fun.
For me, this chip will give similar performance to E6300 and use less power. So griping about how the current pricing seems unfair, really doesn't matter to me. I could buy an E6300 and get the same performance, but pay for it in heat. If your intent is not overclocking but just mid-range performance, this looks like a good CPU. Some may want to wait for price drops. For me the convenience of having it right now is worth a few bucks.
My E4300 should arrive tomorrow night. Haven't built a PC since 2001 this should be fun.
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My E4300 arrived, just poppped it in the system and started XP loading.
Amazingly the Scythe Ninja seems to stay at room temp. I haven't hooked up the fan on it.
The Watts Up? meter is around 100 Watts so power consumption looks okay. I assume it will be lower when I am done with the install and EIST can kick in.
The hottest thing in the system is the chipset heatsink, the DS3 has a pretty dinky heatsink compared to the Ninja. I'd like to put a bigger one on there, but it seems like there's not much space for it.
Just wanted to throw a prelim mention in the thread, should have some harder data tomorrow night.
Amazingly the Scythe Ninja seems to stay at room temp. I haven't hooked up the fan on it.
The Watts Up? meter is around 100 Watts so power consumption looks okay. I assume it will be lower when I am done with the install and EIST can kick in.
The hottest thing in the system is the chipset heatsink, the DS3 has a pretty dinky heatsink compared to the Ninja. I'd like to put a bigger one on there, but it seems like there's not much space for it.
Just wanted to throw a prelim mention in the thread, should have some harder data tomorrow night.
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Thanks alot for the infomation but but it's really useless to us without knowing the specs of your setup. That with a 8800GTS GFX? 3 SATA drives? 256 Mb ram?vincentfox wrote: The Watts Up? meter is around 100 Watts so power consumption looks okay. I assume it will be lower when I am done with the install and EIST can kick in.
The E4300 have both EIST and C1E.
The reason why it doesn't overclock like the E6300 is probably because it uses a newer package with fewer capacitors.
It is possible that it actually would overclock even better than the E6300 if it had the same package since it got a newer stepping.
The reason why it doesn't overclock like the E6300 is probably because it uses a newer package with fewer capacitors.
It is possible that it actually would overclock even better than the E6300 if it had the same package since it got a newer stepping.
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Hey man I said it was a prelim quicky. Got the OS loaded, updated, ran AquaMark. Got a score of 87,951. Which is 4-5 times higher than my old system.
System is Antec Solo, Corsair HX-520, Gigabyte DS3, E4300, Scythe Ninja, 2 gigs (2x1g dual-channel) DDR2-800 GSkill RAM, XFX 7600GT XXX card, WD 250gig SATA drive, LiteOn DVD-RW. I think that's about it.
Oh yeah I am powering the chassis fan on low speed but not using the fan that came with the Ninja, at the moment the CPU heatsink is passive except for chassis airflow. Heatsink never seems to get warm to the touch. I did have to dig out my metal-file and rub off one edge of the Ninja mounting bracket as the DS3 has some capacitors at an inconvenient spot.
I see the Watts Up? go from around 76-80 Watts idle to 120 Watts when running AquaMark. I have no idea how to tell if the C1E or EIST features are enabled and doing their jobs. Well they are enabled in the BIOS but I'd like a little more information while the OS is running.
Next task is pull the XFX card out and see if I can fit my Zalman 80D-HP passive heatsink onto it. The factory heatsink/fan is pretty noisy.
EDIT: forgot to mention haven't gotten as far as overclock testing yet. Also did not change the BIOS settings for RAM so I guess the memory is running "underclocked/undervolted" since it is spec'd for DDR2-800 at a higher voltage like 1.9-2.0 Volts. I am just running everything at stock speed and default settings at this point, seems to work great.
System is Antec Solo, Corsair HX-520, Gigabyte DS3, E4300, Scythe Ninja, 2 gigs (2x1g dual-channel) DDR2-800 GSkill RAM, XFX 7600GT XXX card, WD 250gig SATA drive, LiteOn DVD-RW. I think that's about it.
Oh yeah I am powering the chassis fan on low speed but not using the fan that came with the Ninja, at the moment the CPU heatsink is passive except for chassis airflow. Heatsink never seems to get warm to the touch. I did have to dig out my metal-file and rub off one edge of the Ninja mounting bracket as the DS3 has some capacitors at an inconvenient spot.
I see the Watts Up? go from around 76-80 Watts idle to 120 Watts when running AquaMark. I have no idea how to tell if the C1E or EIST features are enabled and doing their jobs. Well they are enabled in the BIOS but I'd like a little more information while the OS is running.
Next task is pull the XFX card out and see if I can fit my Zalman 80D-HP passive heatsink onto it. The factory heatsink/fan is pretty noisy.
EDIT: forgot to mention haven't gotten as far as overclock testing yet. Also did not change the BIOS settings for RAM so I guess the memory is running "underclocked/undervolted" since it is spec'd for DDR2-800 at a higher voltage like 1.9-2.0 Volts. I am just running everything at stock speed and default settings at this point, seems to work great.
Use Intel TAT for maximum heat and checking the actual CPU speed.vincentfox wrote: I see the Watts Up? go from around 76-80 Watts idle to 120 Watts when running AquaMark. I have no idea how to tell if the C1E or EIST features are enabled and doing their jobs. Well they are enabled in the BIOS but I'd like a little more information while the OS is running.
Windows + Pause will also report the speed, although not change/refresh when the speed changes.
Last I time looked into the 945 boards alot of them werent happy with C2Ds, but its been 6 months (different power circuits or something).kaange wrote:So what are the overclocking restrictions on the 945PL chipset?
I was looking at m/bs like the Asus P5PL2 and Gigabyte GA-945PL-S3
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You can probably got from 800 to 1066 without problems.
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Ok, New Motherboard
E4300 SL9TB 01/02/2007
Gigabyte 965P-DS3P
2gb of A-data 667
Scythe Ninja w/nexus
Currently stress testing
266x 9 = 2.4ghz
Ram @ 266
Voltage at bios 1.225v
Full load temp 52c
*NOTE*
Currently the only correct temp monitor is intel TAT. All others show 15c less
E4300 SL9TB 01/02/2007
Gigabyte 965P-DS3P
2gb of A-data 667
Scythe Ninja w/nexus
Currently stress testing
266x 9 = 2.4ghz
Ram @ 266
Voltage at bios 1.225v
Full load temp 52c
*NOTE*
Currently the only correct temp monitor is intel TAT. All others show 15c less
Last edited by kogi on Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Just to be clear, this is the OEM version of the e4300. So, no 3-year warranty (Fry's said 1-year), and no HSF (which most people here probably don't care about).CA_Steve wrote:Local newspaper has Fry's ad with e4300 + ECS P4M800PRO-M V2 motherboard combo for $150. Almost makes me want to buy it and toss the mobo on eBay for $10. No comparable listing on the fry's website...
The good news is that reasonable prices are starting to appear.
Oh, and no Core 2 Duo Intel Inside sticker.
There are a few 945 boards that are now C2D compliant but the major limit for O/C seems to be the max 667 memory support (doesn't the 975 chipset have the same limitation?). But perhaps the 945 could still be a decent budget O/C choice as long as the bios is implemented with most of the O/C options of the higher series boards. Does this sound reasonable? (I'm a noob to O/C so pardon the ignorance)dragmor wrote:Last I time looked into the 945 boards alot of them werent happy with C2Ds, but its been 6 months (different power circuits or something).
You can probably got from 800 to 1066 without problems.
How do you get around the FSB limit of the CPU?