Another stout little bugger - 360 watts PCP&C

aristide1 · Post by **aristide1** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:26 pm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817703010
A few extra amps on each line, a single 12V rail with oophm.
$50. Not bad. Some interesting noise reduction techniques, see their site.

I like this page:
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/

They have some quiet and substantial upgrades for Dell specific PCs. Whoda thunk?

I'd love to see a shootout of the PCP&C 470 watter versus the Corsair 470 watter.

Update - "New Models" are listed NewEgg, even the 360 watter is marked as 80 Plus, whereas on the company website none of the Silencer series is 80 Plus until the 610 watter.

Flandry · Post by **Flandry** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:32 pm

After seeing a PSU review recently where the PCP&C unit had the highest efficiency of the lot, i decided to revisit their page because it had been a half dozen years. After browsing through all the lower rated supplies, i realized that PCP&C, for the most part, doesn't gives a rat's ass for efficiency.

It's nice they have a few 80+ models now, but i won't pay top dollar for a PSU from a company with such ugly efficiencies. They've shown that they are capable of making incredibly efficient models, yet most of their product lineup is still stuck in the '90s. You can't get more antithetical to SPCR than that.

aristide1 · Post by **aristide1** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:31 am

I can appreciate the remarks about efficiency, but PCP&C has built a rep on reliability, more ps's for servers than for home use. They probably things like avoid sleeve bearing fans for more robust and reliable ball bearing fans, at the cost of more noise. Technology probably reached the point where sleeve bearing life span is no longer a major issue, who knows?

They also have an excellent rep for service. I bought a Turbo 300 from them years ago. I called and complained it whined, though I never felt it was defective, it was just plain too loud. I sent it back and they replaced it with a Silencer 270 for no charge. (The latter was a tad more expensive.)

And by robust I mean I would expect any and all of the ps's to exceed their ratings, not just barely squeak by.

bendit · Post by **bendit** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:38 am

The only pcpc psu that shows up on the 80 plus site is the 750w model. Also when you drill down on the actual specs, it says 74% efficient. Also, there is no mention of 80+ that I could find for this psu on the pcpc site, only on the newegg description. Any more info on this being 80+ and also if the 310w model is?

aristide1 · Post by **aristide1** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:43 am

You're right, I don't see anything over 80% until the Silencer 610.

I need to revise my prior post. Sorry for the error.

Updated, there appear to be new models available. At NewEgg the 470 is 80 Plus certified. It doesn't surprise a company website that is not update promptly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817703011

bendit · Post by **bendit** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:13 am

The 360 was also labeled 80 plus in the Newegg specs. The problem is we need to get this verified from the "source" or the 80 plus website. So far we don't have it. I would not rely on Newegg specs for proof.

aristide1 · Post by **aristide1** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:49 am

I emailed PCP&C, they replied in minutes and said they are in transition mode, ie they will be 80PLUS but just not yet.

Tommy Jefferson · Post by **Tommy Jefferson** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:38 am

aristide1 wrote:I like this page:
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/

Interesting efficiency information. Thank you for the link.

SnooP · Post by **SnooP** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:44 am

Tommy Jefferson wrote:
aristide1 wrote:I like this page:
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/
Interesting efficiency information. Thank you for the link.

yes very interesting, they do the calcs assuming the psu is running full load for 24/7 365 days a year, ha! Also theres no idle power draw calculations - lots of high wattage psu's (> 600w) are abysmal here as they efficiency is often as low as 60% at under 100-150w (what computer uses most of the time while not gaming) compared to > 80% for a decent 300-400w psu.

and theres a few other false myths there. modular psu's do not have that much resistance, jonnyguru did tests its next to nothing. pcp@c comment of "That's why professional system builders specify uninterrupted wire!" seems stupid to me there, theres always a modular connection in the chain regardless of psu ITS CALLED THE 24PIN ATX CONNECTOR.

Telstar · Post by **Telstar** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:39 am

I'd like to see a review of this and the 470w model

Another stout little bugger - 360 watts PCP&C

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