ATI HD 4770: 40 nm, RV740 -- SPCR reviewed

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Post by sampo » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:01 am

thejamppa wrote:I would really want the review sample
XFX has first premium 4770. Mem heatsinks and extra condensators seem to missing though.

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Post by yacoub » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:19 am

You know, one of these with a 256-bit bandwidth (which could then run lower clockspeeds and use less voltage) would be awesome. It could probably run passively cooled and not bake itself to death like a lot of passively cooled higher-end cards tend to do.

If only... :cry:

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Post by ryboto » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:21 am

we need some testers! I really hope we can get some low power states to at least match the idle power of the 38xx series, if we can with reference/premium reference designs, then I'll be upgrading.

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Post by pedrofdmp » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:20 pm

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The retail version is missing voltage controlers and capacitors. The fan connector is only 2pin vs 3pin in the card that made to the media.

This doesn't seem good.

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Post by silo » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:37 pm

maximum profit! edited for the blind users over here-


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Post by dhanson865 » Fri May 01, 2009 10:15 am

silo wrote:maximum profit!
There is one too many green stars on that pic. The review version of the board doesn't have a cap in the place where one of the green stars is.

Also the star to the left of the fan controller, I think there is a difference there but they didn't remove the part, they just put a different part in it's place (oh and the same component swap was made right above the e in review).

Still it'd be nice if the reviewers would follow up with a retail card and amend the reviews to reflect the reality that us mere mortals will face when buying cards that weren't review samples.

I'd really like to know how much that changes the idle power draw.

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Post by silo » Fri May 01, 2009 12:01 pm

nop, sorry but you are wrong. just look at the pics above my post. each green star represent something that's either missing or changed.

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Post by Vicotnik » Fri May 01, 2009 1:16 pm

silo wrote:nop, sorry but you are wrong. just look at the pics above my post. each green star represent something that's either missing or changed.
Take a close look at the blue star, silo..

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Post by silo » Sat May 02, 2009 12:15 am

Vicotnik wrote:
silo wrote:nop, sorry but you are wrong. just look at the pics above my post. each green star represent something that's either missing or changed.
Take a close look at the blue star, silo..

:lol:

ok i see it, never the less damage control much?

1 ) "one too many green stars" =/= just 1


2) what about the rest ? that's still a lot of stuff missing @ changed

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Post by nutball » Sat May 02, 2009 12:31 am

silo wrote: :lol:

ok i see it, never the less damage control much?
Not really - your posts here have been pretty full of crappy attitude. This place is generally mercifully free of the ATI <-> NV fan wars but that seems to have escaped you. Now it turns out you've made a mistake in your rush to mouth off. Hardly surprising that people are going to pull you up, regardless of your or their preference for colour of graphics card.

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Post by Mats » Sat May 02, 2009 1:45 am

You can go on forever about those caps, when there's already been shown that it doesn't affect non-extreme overclocking, the cheaper cooler is quieter, and heatsinks aren't needed for the factory underclocked RAM. .

Get a GTS 250 or start a new thread,or stop being so full of something. Get some facts instead and don't bother me with more stupid posts. :idea:

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Post by silo » Sat May 02, 2009 9:59 am

:lol: nvidia fanboy? please gtfo, its clear that nvidia also sucks, but we are not discussing that particular subject here. If you like to support deceptive bs like this, then FINE, but is it you the one with a shit attitude here, not me. all this reviews are simply pointless, they do not reflect the actual truth about the product you are getting because the actual item is severely gimped . For all i know it could have an idle consumption of 80W and no powerplay. ok whatever enjoy your trashy videocards guys.

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Post by Mats » Sat May 02, 2009 12:35 pm

Is it that hard to understand why I start a thread about ATI's upcoming midrange GPU three months before its launch?

Do you really think I'm a Nvidia fanboy? :lol: Gtfo of my own thread? Get real and start your own.
Can you tell me how many reviews that are based on the retail(gimped) model? If you have read this thread you'd know the answer.

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Post by baconandeggs » Sat May 02, 2009 5:04 pm

could this run on my system? see sig

btw its got a Antec EA-380W

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Post by thejamppa » Sat May 02, 2009 11:21 pm

baconandeggs wrote:could this run on my system? see sig

btw its got a Antec EA-380W
Yes, easily ^^

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Post by mb2 » Sun May 03, 2009 2:33 pm

Are there any plans for a card with HDMI/VGA/DVI port config.??

I would much prefer it, having a 2xHDMI monitor with no DVI. Plus, it allows for triple displays with just as much (more) flexibility as 2xDVI-I's. I have no use or desire for S-Video in 2009 and beyond!
Also, since this has a max power use which seems to generally be less or equal to the 4670 then a fanless version would be great.
Basically i want a 'Sapphire HD 4770 Ultimate'.

Unless theres some imminent news of a HDMI/VGA/DVI card (&/or a passive one) i'll be likely to push the button on a regular Sapphire HD 4770.. and sell it if a better card comes out.. been waiting for a while to see what this was like. Whilst dissapointing about the idle, at the end of the day its ~1/3rd faster than the 4670 for no more (fair to say less?) max power and a small amount more money. I won't regret getting one of these over a passive 4670, right?.

Any reliable (ish) info from retail cards RE: power, (and how it is with underclocking for idle).??

Finally, are there any significant differentiating out features on any of the boards worth looking for?
was hoping someone else would have had one here by now..:)

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Post by Mats » Sun May 03, 2009 3:08 pm

It's actually even faster than you think, 56 % faster than a 4670.
You can always get a better cooler later.

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Post by Ant6n » Sun May 03, 2009 5:00 pm

...hoping for they toys to arrive tomorrow ... can't wait.

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Post by spc » Mon May 04, 2009 7:56 pm

The 4770 is still not listed at the AMD/ATI driver page : http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx .

How much of a diff would "proper" drivers make ?

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Post by ~El~Jefe~ » Mon May 04, 2009 9:05 pm

It's all the same thing. Better question to ask is which ones are tested by your manufacturer? I use those first.

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Post by spc » Mon May 04, 2009 9:54 pm

~El~Jefe~ wrote:It's all the same thing. Better question to ask is which ones are tested by your manufacturer? I use those first.
At this moment, afaik all manufacturers are using "hacked" drivers. That's the reason I asked.

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Post by Mats » Tue May 05, 2009 4:02 am

I think the new 9.5 drivers will show up next week, no need to look for them before they show up.

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Post by thepwner » Tue May 05, 2009 5:07 am

I just bought my fanless 4670 and am happy with it, I might have to upgrade to a 4770 when a fanless version hits the market...ugh....the troubles of technology...buy something and 5 minutes later it's obselete.

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Post by silo » Tue May 05, 2009 6:08 am

thepwner wrote:I just bought my fanless 4670 and am happy with it, I might have to upgrade to a 4770 when a fanless version hits the market...ugh....the troubles of technology...buy something and 5 minutes later it's obselete.
then think 5 minutes forward? btw, just bought a 4770 ( lol i know) like dirty cheap, my advice, keep your 4670 it rocks, its small, it has punch, efficient, compatible, etc. (im going to have to rape my s1 and make a mess out of my case because of that extra pci connector) :lol:

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Post by K.Murx » Tue May 05, 2009 9:50 am

silo wrote:my advice, keep your 4670 it rocks, its small, it has punch, efficient, compatible, etc. (im going to have to rape my s1 and make a mess out of my case because of that extra pci connector) :lol:
Then return your 4770, go back to your 4670 and finally STFU?
Sorry, but your constant, baseless ranting does grate on my nerves.

[edit]
Uh oh, sorry, I confused your nickname with another 4-Letter-guy that has been posting unfounded claims about nvidia always being better than ATI, etc. So I thought your gripe about the caps (which I still do not understand) was a continuation of that.

Oops. I apologize.
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Post by silo » Tue May 05, 2009 10:11 am

K.Murx wrote:
silo wrote:my advice, keep your 4670 it rocks, its small, it has punch, efficient, compatible, etc. (im going to have to rape my s1 and make a mess out of my case because of that extra pci connector) :lol:
Then return your 4770, go back to your 4670 and finally STFU?
Sorry, but your constant, baseless ranting does grate on my nerves.

take a pill. hey does anyone here knows if this bad boy fits the 4770? looks ok to me...

http://i43.tinypic.com/amvdra.jpg

if not....

http://i41.tinypic.com/2yyusli.jpg

(yes thats a s1 on top of that poor 4770)

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Post by ~El~Jefe~ » Tue May 05, 2009 12:14 pm

K.Murx wrote:
silo wrote:my advice, keep your 4670 it rocks, its small, it has punch, efficient, compatible, etc. (im going to have to rape my s1 and make a mess out of my case because of that extra pci connector) :lol:
Then return your 4770, go back to your 4670 and finally STFU?
Sorry, but your constant, baseless ranting does grate on my nerves.
you are a tard k.murx.

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Post by mczak » Tue May 05, 2009 2:57 pm

mb2 wrote:Are there any plans for a card with HDMI/VGA/DVI port config.??

I would much prefer it, having a 2xHDMI monitor with no DVI. Plus, it allows for triple displays with just as much (more) flexibility as 2xDVI-I's.
No, 2xDVI-I is more flexible. You can't use triple displays with HDMI/VGA/DVI ports since all the chips only have 2 display controllers so only 2 connections can be used at the same time.
So, 2xDVI-I allows you to use 2 analog connections. It also allows you to connect 2 displays requiring dual-link dvi (hdmi is limited to single link - actually newer standard version could achieve same resolutions as dual-link dvi with higher clock frequency but I don't know of any card which supports this).
I have no use or desire for S-Video in 2009 and beyond!
Oh yes this one I understand. For some very odd reason though people still seem to use it...

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Post by alecmg » Tue May 05, 2009 10:20 pm

Looks like GPU socket on 4770 is so close to ports that a S1 won't fit at all.

http://images.people.overclockers.ru/180440.jpg

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Post by josephclemente » Tue May 05, 2009 10:27 pm

alecmg wrote:Looks like GPU socket on 4770 is so close to ports that a S1 won't fit at all.
I read somewhere that someone installed an S1 by bending all of the fins on the end 90 degrees. I haven't seen any pictures of an install yet... Anyone here try this yet?

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