how much of a performance lead does the KS have over the sammy? I am a gamer so performance is paramount but having them quiet is nice too.

and it will cost $1200.! Ok thats just a guess.

Now that the e4300 and e4400 are coming out Ive been looking for cheaper mobo's that would go good with them as I would only need to overclock them to 333fsb to get the 3Ghz im shooting for. Anyone know of a good budget mobo for the e4300 that can OC to 333fsb but is really cheap?

Anyone compare the Samsung HD321KJ to the WD 3200KS yet? I want to know which is faster and how close they are noise wise.

I thought reaching 2.8 with everything stock was easy with the e6300?
Thats 55%
Did they change something?

Few things first, I dont know much about OCing because im new to it. I dont want to increase voltage, just maximize performance while leaving voltage stock. I read that they got a e4300 to 2.9 on stock voltage for everything. And that the e4300 would put less strain on the northbridge because its ru...

Whoa! That strapping stuff is kinda confusing. Do you think you could just condense that down for me and tell me what an optimum overclock for a e6300 is at stock or even undervolted would be?

Man everytime I think about building a new system something comes up that makes me want to wait another month. The 320mb 8800gts is suppose to come out and be around $300. which would be better than the 1950xt for $250. <including price of zalman> Also the e4300 and e6320 are both coming out in febr...

Anyone know how high a e4300 will go on stock voltage?
And how high a e6300 can go on stock voltage?
Thats what I want to know, Highest stable overclock that I can comfortably leave going 24/7 for a few years.

The ds3 was on sale at newegg for a while but I missed it. Now its back to 145. <I think> I choose those boards because I wanted to overclock a decent amount and be stable and I dont want my first slot to be the PCI-E slot because id have to mod my server case to fit it. All those boards have the PC...

Wouldn`t a S12-430w run an overclocked core 2 duo and a 8800gtx or equivilant(which I will upgrade to as some time in the future)? I would never have more than 2 harddrives, probably only one. I figure that is 300w-350w tops. I wont be doing raid. I could get the S12+ 550w for 40 more but I didnt th...

Ok Ive revised it abit now. e6300 @2.8 w ninja plus revision B gigabyte ds3 2 gigs ddr800 corsair twinx2048-6400 western digital 3200ks saphire 1950xt (might put zf900 on it if needed) Seasonic 430 S12 What does everyone think? Any comments/ criticisms? What is the good thermal paste now arctic silv...

I would be happier if it was $100.

I guess im going with the ds3 unless someone else knows of a cheaper board that fits my needs.

the problem im having is that the p5b reportably has problems with corsair ram. The s3 has cheaper capacitors then some other boards that might fail when overclocking and I know diddly about the abit board. Which only leaves the more expensive boards. But I wont be using raid so it seems like a wast...

Having a hard time trying to pick a mobo. Ive narrowed it down to these. Abit IB9 $110. Asus P5B $126. Gigabyte DS3 $145. Gigabyte S3 $110. Will be using Corsair 2 gigs of twinx2x2048-6400. Wanting to overclock a e6300 to 2.8 without changing voltages if possible and leaving it that way 24/7. I woul...

How does this compare to a 6300 when both are overclocked? I guess the 6300 would have it beat by a little? or would they be pretty similar? Wish they would start selling them at a decent price.

so the consensus is not to use them in desktop, non-raid systems?

Just looking at all my options before I settle on one. I want to OC a e6300 to 2.8 with ddr2-800. I was considering the gigabyte 965 DS3 and gigabyte 965 S3. One supposidly has better capacitors. Who knows if this really matters? Are there any other C2D mobos that are in the $100-120 that I should c...

Just curious I was looking at 2500ks and 2500ys, or maybe even 3200ks or 3200ys. The YS seems to be a bit faster? Is this correct, they all seem to be about the same price. The website says they run the sames temps, and produce same amount of db's ect. Is there anything bad about the YS drives?

no, no folding, it will go into standby or something.

I like the gigabyte boards because the first expansion slot is empty so I dont have to mod my dell server case to make it fit. The biostar's first slot is the pci=x slot which wouldnt fit in my case. But the question remains. Is it worth the extra 30-$40 for the better capacitors in the Ds3 over the...

Yea I just want it to run good for about 3 years or so. Another question I think I will be getting either the gigabyte 965p-ds3 or s3 Aparently one has better capacitors then the other. Is it worth the extra $30-$40 to get better capacitors if Im only going for 2.8 on a e6300? I mean the cheaper cap...

But if you up the voltage you up the heat and that is usually bad right? But its really the heat that kills the components? Not the voltage?
What im getting at, is if you make sure everything is running cool then you should be alright?

If I keep everything at stock voltage is it shortening the life of the components in any way?

ok i see some ddr800 on sale that looks good. So when I overclock the ram will end up running at stock voltage and the cpu will also? Does this mean that it would last just as long as if I wasnt overclocking at all? Or is it still putting more strain on things?

If I wanted to overclock a e6300 c2duo and leave it overclocked 24/7 what memory would be good for cheap. Also I say I want to safely overclock which means I want this computer to last 3 years so I want to know what a good overclock to shoot for without burning everything up is? Thinking of getting ...

how about ram suggestions, something cheap but that will be get me a decent overclock that wont kill my cpu for at least 3 years.

By the way, Ive found the 1900xt and 1950pro for about the same price.

190 e6300 c2duo w/ Sythe Ninja 120 gigabyte 965-P-DS3 100 1x1gig cheap ddr (something for a decent but not insane 24/7overclock) 80 Western Digital 2500ks 120 Seasonic S12 energy plus 550 200 1950pro or 1900xt 30 zf900 total 840 I want to upgrade to a dx10 card in a year or so when I feel its necess...

dual instances of fah?