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by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:30 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Explain to me how using negative air pressure is a detriment. Most builds that I do rely on it (and the ones that don't only have a CPU fan and PSU fan). I can assure you that no less dust enters a system using positive pressure. You can also use open cell foam in the front fan area to be a much mo...
by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:58 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

A picture is worth a thousand words. Why don't you show us where the computer will be going instead of telling us it's complicated? That's exactly what I'm working on. A picture actually doesn't help as much as you'd think, as there are a number of scenarios. I'm working up some hard measurements -...
by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:45 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Other reports have suggested that a the front is not any more restricted than other non-direct cases like the W1 or Node 304. I was talking about positive pressure: so, as a matter of fact, neither the W1 or the Node 304 look like suitable for a real positive pressure setup. And as I said, I'm not ...
by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:46 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

First of all, the front intake is restricted, so you might end up to run the relevant fan at a considerable speed in order to generate a positive effect. Other reports have suggested that a the front is not any more restricted than other non-direct cases like the W1 or Node 304. Moreover, the fan a...
by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:29 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Probably: quieter rigs run usually hotter. Quieter rigs cannot match the cooling of non-quiet rigs. But you can get pretty quiet while remaining pretty cool. I have a PC-9F with CPU temps that never rise over 62C, and GPU temps that stay under 70C, even while loaded simultaneously. The noise increa...
by figment
Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:52 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Here's where I think you're taking the wrong attitude about this build. You're tearing apart every suggestion you're getting in order to justify some reason to go against it. I'm not trying to tear apart every suggestion. However, I'm correcting or adding information when those suggestions aren't p...
by figment
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:49 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

My concern isn't dust or cat hair, but the entire cat. So the main concern is cooling (or the cooling prowess, if you rather). Not necessarily. As you've concluded, it is truly a balance between cooling and noise. I'm willing to compromise on both fronts. That's not an easy thing to do, but it is p...
by figment
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:19 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

If your P182 is seeing an increase in temps because the cat is sitting on top of it, you have 3 potential problems/solutions. The P182 is of zero concern to me. It's the case I'm replacing. Still, following the exercise: 1) You're not using the best cooling method for it 2) You need to just block o...
by figment
Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:40 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Whether your main concern were dust/cat hair-dandruff-epithelia, the answer is dust filters (in case, you might look into Silverstonetek and dEMCiflex catalogues). Whether it were cooling, you have to fight your own preconceptions and expectations, in order to try to make some reasonable assumption...
by figment
Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:39 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Unfortunately you don't have real alternatives, you have to cut corners (or set back your requirements): look around, which mITX enclosure with solid top do have further, different openings? In case, does that enclosure offer a wide compatibility with reference to graphics, PSU and heatsink? Those ...
by figment
Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:17 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

That's not an inlet, and it cannot act as an inlet as hot air rises. It's one of the system exhaust: the W1 airflow path is from front/bottom to rear/top. Ah, noted. Unfortunately, a cat functions the same way whether the air is trying to get in or go out. Maybe it would even like it better if it w...
by figment
Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:08 am
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Re: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

Storage OS/Game : 512GB Crucial M.2-PCIe [Note 3] Crucial M.2 are currently known to run very hot and throttling their performance to recover from overheating (which may affect the motherboar itself): I would avoid either that interface or that vendor. Hmm. I hadn't heard that. That would definitel...
by figment
Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:45 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build
Replies: 59
Views: 38526

Planning a MiniITX Gaming Build

I'm starting the process of planning for a MiniITX build. Normal use will be software development, some VM usage, and moderate gaming (SWTOR, Skyrim, Dragon Age, as examples). Planned budget is in the $1200 range, though its not strict. On the whole, I'm very pragmatic about builds. However, this is...
by figment
Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:08 am
Forum: Video Cards & Monitors
Topic: Recommendations for quietest GTX 570 (or even 560 or 470)
Replies: 37
Views: 39146

Re: Recommendations for quietest GTX 570 (or even 560 or 470

Hi, there are a couple of Gigabyte GTX560 Ti that night be worth a look: GTX 560 Ti OC I (somewhat hesitantly) bought this model a couple months ago for a build. It lives in a dampened Lian Li and I don't really hear it even when running games (Portal 2 and Mass Effect 2, probably being the most in...
by figment
Thu May 12, 2011 7:27 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

Shockingly well, actually. Here's a view of the (almost) final build (I still haven't added the last of the Acoustipak, though it seems like its not terribly important): http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/figment0000/Ryloth/th_IMG_3345.jpg More importantly, here it is running IBT: http://i296....
by figment
Wed May 04, 2011 10:32 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: bin Laden is DEAD!
Replies: 65
Views: 30002

Re: bin Laden is DEAD!

I am shocked at the inconsistencies. I'm not trying to propagate any conspiracy theories, but there is a big difference between what was initially reported, to what president Obama said, to what was reported later, and later spoken by officials. Seems like the story keeps changing. I'm not sure who...
by figment
Wed May 04, 2011 5:26 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: bin Laden is DEAD!
Replies: 65
Views: 30002

Re: bin Laden is DEAD!

So it appears he was shot in the head and torso. Doesn't necessarily say if the head shot cam from the front or the side but it does say it was above the eye. It's also not clear if it was two shots from one person or one shot each from two people. There was an interview with the founder of SEAL Te...
by figment
Tue May 03, 2011 8:47 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

Alright, I am mostly finished with my build and I wanted to give everyone some updated information. Here are some thoughts and things I've learned with this case: The case can be quiet. Mine is quiet enough that my wife was sitting a meter away and didn't know it was running. The two fans in front a...
by figment
Tue May 03, 2011 8:19 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Picking a heatsink for i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz
Replies: 44
Views: 26690

Re: Picking a heatsink for i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz

Just a post-install update: I bought the MUX-120 Black (only a little more, and a guarantee of more recent manufacture and good quality base finish) and after waiting for it to arrive, cleaned and installed it in about 20 minutes. I used IC Diamond for the TIM. It was even thicker than I expected, b...
by figment
Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:21 am
Forum: The Silent Front
Topic: Non-optical USB mouse?
Replies: 78
Views: 155356

Re: Non-optical USB mouse?

I wish I had seen this when the thread was more active. With my current system, I've had troubles with mouse whine being picked up in the audio headphone output. I'd estimate that its being put out at around 16-20kHz. The majority of time, its right on the edge of hearing, however, my wife and I are...
by figment
Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:04 am
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Nexus vs Seasonic
Replies: 24
Views: 8263

Re: Nexus vs Seasonic

In my opinion and experience, PSUs are not the place to try and save money. There's a point at which spending more money is useless, but every time I've picked a PSU because it seemed to be as good as that other one, but was $40 cheaper, I've ended up replacing it. And having worked with other compu...
by figment
Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:41 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Antec p183 v3 question
Replies: 9
Views: 3643

Re: Antec p183 v3 question

I built a system in a P182, which is mostly identical to the P183 and I never had much concern over the I/O panel. Assuming you have a non-crazy ATX motherboard, I don't see why you'd have issues. Now, I've done several builds and I will say that when I started, it was common to feel that the I/O pa...
by figment
Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:32 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)
Replies: 13
Views: 6784

Re: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)

Sorry this may be a basic question but is it possible to reduce the speeds on the stock fans in the 690 ii? From the motherboard bios or something or do i need to buy a controller? I figured thats why you got the ASUS P8P67 Pro. I don't have the pro version, but even I have the ability to power fou...
by figment
Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:27 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)
Replies: 13
Views: 6784

Re: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)

That looks quite nice figment... thought something like that might be the way to go. I don't think I'm gonna run with that many drives so I can put the HD in the bottom 5.25 bay and then put foam padding in front of the other bays (except the dvd one) and at least part of the lower intake fan. I wa...
by figment
Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:10 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)
Replies: 13
Views: 6784

Re: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)

Thanks for the info figmet. I looked at that thread but not in detail yet. In any case I'm glad to hear open mesh cases are not a complete no no. Is you "open/low-flow strategy" discussed in the thread you linked to? Well, it's not "my" strategy as its just an application of stuff that MikeC has be...
by figment
Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:09 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)
Replies: 13
Views: 6784

Re: Case recommendation: 690 II advanced vs R3 (and others)

I've got a build shockingly close to yours: i7-2600K (w/ Thermalright MUX-120) ASUS P8P67 Gigabyte GTX-560 Ti (OC) Samsung F4EG 2TB Crucial C300 128GB Seasonic X-650 I'm building it in the Lian Li PC-9F. I was looking at many of the same cases you're looking at (as you should already know... it was ...
by figment
Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:18 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

More photos! First the requested shot of the back panel. http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/figment0000/Ryloth/th_IMG_3332.jpg And here's a less oblique shot to give you an idea about what sort of surfaces and cable management options you've got: http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/figmen...
by figment
Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:58 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

Look's like either this or the Lian Li PC-A05NB will be the case I end up getting. I love the look of both, but can't decide whether it would be worth it to sacrifice a bit of the cooling of the 9F for the shorter size of the A05. The A05 looks to be a good case, but its not the sort of case I'd ch...
by figment
Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:41 am
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

Great. Very helpful photos. Thanks. More, please. Feel free to request angles/subjects that interest you. It seems that my HDD/SSD mounts came in early, so I'll be putting those in tonight. I'll get some photos to show how (if?) they work with the tool-less mounting. If you want something else, let...
by figment
Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:41 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.
Replies: 32
Views: 19529

Re: Lian-Li PC-9F a viable choice.

Okay, here are some quick photos of the 9F build in progress: Here is a shot of the (mostly) empty interior. The flash really shows of that aluminum sheen. You can see the complaints I have against the case: the heavy punched (actually cut) grille on the rear fan, the louvered bottom intake for the ...