If you can't tolerate the way people type, MAYBE you should consider giving up the moderator rights. Also, in case you feel like YOU have the rights to control the direction of the conversation by making DEMANDS of the subject I or rest of the people are supposed to talk about, I can only wish good...

Greetings, I think everyone who reads this thread understands that you are upset. Yet another assumption; I'm not upset, I have been scammed. It's quite different to be scammed than upset. I firmly believe the information and the matter should not only be shared, but discussed, as this is a prime e...

Please reread bonestonne's post above. And please stop the "shouting" or this thread will be locked. I'm shouting? I'm shouting!! If you can't tolerate the way people type, MAYBE you should consider giving up the moderator rights. Also, in case you feel like YOU have the rights to control the direc...

can it end now? ..I wish, but I suppose not: spookmineer does not consider my thoughts to be worthy of quoting, so instead he puts into my mouth word "stuff" - just like lodestar is trying to put into my mouth words "I assume" After 3 pages, the message is clear. I wish. To a person with normal IQ,...

Well I have now managed to get sight of a Clodius case fan complete with label. This is how it compares with the two other Nexus fans. Nexus 120mm 1000 rpm retail fan Branded: D12SL-12 Upper part of Label: White Nexus 120mm PWM retail fan Branded: D12SL-12 Upper part of Label: Purple Nexus 120mm 17...

Darwin awards, I think we have a candidate. I can understand you are pissed. At Nexus, (maybe a bit at yourself...) but don't take it out on fellow forum posters. Using things out of context is always brilliant: So let's wrap this up. What you are saying is: I made a faulty assumption by thinking D...

OK, I think we are getting there slowly. Yes we are. Where is the specsheet for this third fan you were referring to? So you accept that the two Nexus retail 120mm fans have the model codes D12SL-12 and D12SL-12 PWM. The PWM fan, despite the D12SL-12 branding is completely different to the fixed sp...

To go back to what you said in the first place, your saw the Nexus Clodius case on special offer, and there was nothing on the box it came in that said exactly what the fan spec was. So you decided that as the fan label said D12SL then it could only be one fan, the well-known Nexus 1000 rpm model. ...

The fact of the matter is, that he bought a CASE, not some fans. If he had researched the CASE he bought, he would realise they come with 1700rpm fans. Delete this thread! I bought A PRODUCT. This product consists CASE, FAN CONTROLLER AND TWO FANS. So, HALF OF THE PRODUCT IS MADE OF THE FANS. Just ...

I don't understand this entire thread at all. What furthur research needs to be done when the label already says "D12SL"? A simple re search for "D12SL" on SPCR forums would reveal 1000 or 1350 rpm, never 1700rpm... That is what the search does (excluding this thread) and to make clear, NEXUS D12SL...

For what it's worth, I think your claim that your fans had exactly the same label as the normal 1000 rpm fans is not correct. I had forgotten about it but Nexus normally mark a power consumption number on their fan labels. I have a couple of Nexus fans here and they are so marked, but it is written...

This seems to largely bear out what vanhus said in his OP, but there seems to be no mention of fan labels.... The "review" does nothing, as it does not mention fan labels. However, word "SERVER" does make an excellent point of the noiselevel the machine is going to produce anyways. Fan slowed down ...

D12SL is a Yate Loon product number which Nexus just happens to use, common practice with fans of most brands. It's absolutely irrelevant what kind of labeling others use, as the fan in question very clearly indentified itself as a Nexus D12SL-12. Due to the indentification it has very distinctive ...

I'm glad the guy at the store did what Nexus should have done in the first place. You should keep supporting his excellent CS with more purchases in the future. I'm glad too and there is no doubt about it, I will keep on buying my stuff from him. In fact I hope to see him again, when I need to upda...

Since the point is being overriden with/by excuses, I find no reason to continue participating to this thread. However I will tell you how the story ends.. ..I took the fans back to the store. I was simply going to leave them there, as I didn't find it reasonable to make any claims over them; it was...

All this is irrelevant though, as it does not solve the fundamental problem buyers of the case are facing. Which is what exactly? Take the time to read the thread. Here are just few snips, to get you started: What I'm whining about is very clear: the fans do not meet the official specs of the fans ...

http://www.kuluttajavirasto.fi/Page/dc9dd020-8863-40dc-af32-548079f45f69.aspx OK, but like it says in that link, many shops choose to voluntarily have this return policy. It's a way to compete for customers. Pretty much all the big stores have it. The company I buy my stuff from only gives store cr...

In Finland we have two weeks to return a product, if we are unhappy. Only avail if you buy stuff that requires to be delivered. I bought the case from hardwarestore. Read: I physically went there, picked the case up and drove away. In case you have better rights than rest of the people at Finland, ...

normal people... I fail to see the point of mailing them, as according to their site, the fans are working as they are supposed work between 1000-1700 rpm. At best, I would only end up getting the same fans with different sticker on them - not the fans I thought I was buying. But who knows, I'll ma...

Didn't someone say they are shipped with no sticker now? Which suggests that the early batches were labeled wrong by Yate-Loon. When approached, this is how Nexus explained labeling of the fans: "The model number is not so much related to the speed but more related to the components of the fan. So ...

I made no mistake. I bought case with Nexus D12SL fans. However, these fans do not meet the official specs of the Nexus D12SL fans. So, I was mislead deliberately by the company. Misleading has many names. One of the is fraude. Yes you did make a mistake. You didnt not do your research properly, an...

OK, thats fine. I would be a little upset too if i made a mistake thinking a case came with certain fans, when it doesnt. I made no mistake. I bought case with Nexus D12SL fans. However, these fans do not meet the official specs of the Nexus D12SL fans. So, I was mislead deliberately by the company...

ROFL! Over-react much? No, not really. Sometimes you really need to highlight your point in order it to make it through. Did you find the Nexus D12SL 1700 rpm fan information I asked for? You are comparing workers deliberately poisoning baby milk powder, with a computer company making new fans that...

In the end, if you didnt research your purchase properly, its your own fault. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7614083.stm ..please go tell those moms and their kids they should have done their homework. That they should have researched their purchase properly, as if they had, their kids wou...

In the end, if you didnt research your purchase properly, its your own fault. I see. I hope they don't mind me eating chocolate bars at the shop next time I go there, as I no longer can buy chocolate without first checking if chocolate is called chocolate anymore. Sure, the package may say it is ch...

The trouble is, you see, you post a comment about Nexus claiming fraud on their part, but in reality all that happened was that you made assumptions about what you were buying and you did not check first to find out what you were actually buying. I see. I hope they don't mind me eating chocolate ba...

I really don't understand why you are complaining. I'd like to point out that I bought a D12SL, but I didn't get a D12SL. I bought D12SL with motor that's quiet, I got D12SL that's @7V louder than the original at 12V. I bought D12SL that runs 1000rpm@12V, I got D12SL that runs 1700rpm@12V. WHO HAS ...

Nexus came back, hopefully they don't mind me doing some copy-pasting: The fans inside the Clodius case are set to 1700 RPM. That means at full speed they will run 1700 RPM. But they are connected to the fan controller and at the minimum position of the fan controller the fans should run at around 9...

The Nexus website for the Clodius says 1000-1700rpm in at least three places. Site says, box however does not. I'm not using internet at hardwarestore, I'm using my eyes and common sense - unless I'm buying something that's worth more than 50€. Then I might bother doing proper research. So the fa...

However in your case the fans were clearly mislabelled Clearly. So you do have a point, but it seems to me it is 50/50 between you and Nexus. There's 50/50 true to that. As I'm asking at the first post I made to this thread, I wonder if there are more people like me ie. is this problem actually wid...