Nice job Ed, Thanks.

This tempts me into trying something similar when I finish A64 3500+ Digi Darkroom system. Somehow my passive Pentium II email & forum browser isn't fast enough anymore, since I put the A64 system online

ST-400 at MicroCenter for $99.99. Don't know if it's worth it or should you wait for the S12-430.

Just noticed that the grommets and mounting holes in my SLK3000B and SLK2650-BQE HDD cages are different sizes :!: Measuring them... 3000B: Holes for grommet in HDD cage = 0.250" grommet thickness = 0.180" od (bolt installed) = 0.350" bolt: shoulder diam. = 0.167" (a SNUG fit in the grommet) length ...

$252 or $302? I'd spend the $50. I spent a fair amount of time looking at the various A64 boards and chips when I decided that a 3.2 gig Pentium 4 Northwood was going to be more expensive and harder to keep cool than the A64s. I went a bit heavier on the budget and decided on a 3500+ Winchester and ...

Would these EAR grommets be any better in my 3000B case than the ones supplied by Antec? It would be a lot easier than a suspension or Sorbothane setup. I noted that the G-411 - 9311K139 are a better fit in the Evercase 4252 so I think they would be the ones for the 3000B/3700AMB HDD racks. Any thou...

Frank,

How long ago did you fill out that page? I did a "search" and came up with nothing there and then went around looking for it with no results. Perhaps they got tired of giving us those free samples.

It just may. When I was putting my system together I noticed that the various threaded holes for motherboard standoffs had labels next to them for ATX, mATX, P4 and perhaps for AT.

Thanks, your experience with two different Belkins makes me feel better. I didn't want to wind up with something like Ed's Tripplite.

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XP120 on an ASUS A8V-Deluxe. I had room enough to push down on the clips with my fingertips and they snapped into place. Easier than I thought it would be after reading Ralf's review. Just looked inside the case now and it would be a lot harder with the Mobo installed.

CompUSA has this discontinued UPS on rebate. $9.99 + tax on $75 after rebate. But a $65 rebate makes me wonder should I chance it.

I am thinking of getting one and wonder if anyone has experience with it. A search did not show any problems here.

TIA,
Jim

You could take the HDD and move it to the bottom on the case, sitting on some foam. Just make there is some airflow to remove the heat from the drive. Find a pair of 5.25 to 3.5 brackets to hold it up off the foam. If the drive sounds like it is wearing out and may die soon, like my 4 GB Seagate cof...

ZipZoomfly has a low profile Matrox P650 but from their photo it is NOT passive like the regular P650. Checked the Matrox site and they also show a fan on the low profile card
Sorry, I love my regular height passive P650 and thought I had something there but not.

Well, a hacksaw would fix the corners on the Nexus 120 but you would have to decide on the orange color. If you don't have a window in the case, just put the side back on. Finding the Globe fans was hard from both homepages so here are the links: http://www.coolcases.com/cart/specials.php http://www...

I was in the Westbury, NY Microcenter yesterday and they had the 80 GB 0802 for $59.99, all with Nidecs, the 160 GB 1602 for $82.99 were all JVC. The SATA 160 GB at $99.99 was sold out

Thanks Ralf and Mike. So I could build my new system now in the 3000, "See Honey, the review says it's 'modestly priced'." And then ask for the P180 for my birthday in June. And then there would be this unused case that could be filled later with various parts from around the house (and Newegg, ZipZ...

MikeC

Thanks for the added photos. Looks like the PSU can mount right side up or upside down, judging by the six screw holes around the opening.

daba wrote:I'm interested to see the back of this case. How do the rear grilles look?

You can get a peek at the back at the PCMag link. Just click on the Sonata Picture and check the case behind it.

Thinking about the price.

PCMag says $169 MSRP. If you go to Antec.com and buy a P160 the price shows as $169 + 24.68 S&H. So they both have the same MSRP. A quick PriceGrabber shows many prices between $110 and $125. I think the P180 would be a bit higher right after introduction.

Also, the spacing between the HDDs is bigger, allowing making for less restricted airflow even if 4 drives are used. Are there 4 HDDs at the bottom? That would be 4 optical, 2 HDD, 1 floppy and 4 HDD top to bottom looking at the picture. Edit: Reread the home page and see the intake vent in front o...

In Denmark we luckily don't have those 100" wide monstrosities you Americans call fridges :) Really, the large ones here are only 48" wide and thats for a "side-by-side." If you need something with more bling you get a 36" fridge and a 36" freezer and put them side by side. Still not nearly 100" :l...

OMG! And to think I almost ordered my Antec 3000-B and Seasonic Super Silencer this afternoon.

Now to find a really low price case to hold my new system until the reviews are done.

Take a look at the "Customer Reviews" at your link. "ACCS" wrote that it takes 80, 92 & 120 fans in the back. He(?) writes he moved the 80 to the front and installed a 120 in the back. He also writes that the motherboard tray is removable. And the optical drive bays have flip down covers.

Thanks Mike, That saved me a bit of worry and I will look for a late 2004 driver for the P650. Now to find a good price on the Seasonics. RAID-0 is something I am not really thrilled with, one of the reasons I went with the 74 GB Raptor. If you do not think it was wonderful with those pre-print file...

Ray - Thanks for the 550 note. I know about the 3-D, but the only games I play are Minesweeper and Hearts. What I want is High Quality 2-D and perhaps a dual monitor setup next year with a small LCD to hold tools, profiles etc. and have the whole CRT for the image. burcakb - No, no it's not that I ...

That is, a quiet digital darkroom. Another one of those A64, 90 nm systems. It is not to be Silent but just as quiet as performance and cost will permit. It will not be on 24/7 but only when in use. It will not be in the bedroom or even on the same floor as the bedroom :) The size of my files will b...

Also jab-tech.com for various plugs and wire setups.

My UPS is silent in normal daytime use but it is too small for Ed's needs. It is an APC Back-UPS CS 350. It has a slight noise when it charges (first minute after power up) and then nothing. When running off the battery it is quite loud and I can hear the alarm from downstairs, beeping away.

Jim

I can't seem to locate any quiet Power Supplies here that's over 450W. I was wondernig if you guys can point me to one, even a 500W that's relatively quiet for that purpose. Well, if you must, from the Power Supply Fundamentals and Recommended Units section there is the Enermax NoiseTaker 475. That...

0 RPM, it's passive.

The L1A cools the Maxtor HDD.

From what I read version 7.2 is the current version. Earlier this year there was a version 7.0 , that was the one without adjustments :( Check the "user reviews" on Newegg (with a grain of salt), some of the info may help. Looks like the on-board video works with the FSB up to 333 but not at 400. Do...